Trump Solidifying Control Of His Base, And the Republican Party

JacksBratt said:

People who win by fraud and are worried about recounts.. would quite naturally be tired of people trying to prove that they lost.
People looking for a rightful winner.. would not be one bit concerned or tired of people pushing to have the real results determined.

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Except they've done the recounts. They've challenged the results in court and lost 70 times. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.

Strathos said:

Proud Boys to disguise themselves as Biden fans to start inauguration violence

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Even if they did I seriously doubt they would cause near as much destruction as we have seen from the radical left this year.

Danthemailman said:

Even if they did I seriously doubt they would cause near as much destruction as we have seen from the radical left this year.

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Would they cause enough destruction to satisfy you?

Danthemailman said:

Even if they did I seriously doubt they would cause near as much destruction as we have seen from the radical left this year.

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Trump's own DHS recently released a report that white supremacy and right-wing extremism was the biggest domestic terror threat right now.

TLK Valentine said:

Would they cause enough destruction to satisfy you?

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I find no satisfaction in destruction from the right or left.

Strathos said:

Trump's own DHS recently released a report that white supremacy and right-wing extremism was the biggest domestic terror threat right now.

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Sounds like propaganda to me. I’ve seen more than enough destruction from the left this year to consider them the real domestic terrorists.

Danthemailman said:

That’s one radical nut job 25 years ago. I don’t see large groups of Trump supporters looting, rioting or setting police stations and police cars on fire. That would be the Trump hating radical left.

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First, Tim McVeigh was not a lone radical nut job. He had two co-conspirators that were both convicted of their participation in the OKC bombing: Terry Nichols and Michael Fortier.

Second, he spent time in the "Elohim City" community in Oklahoma which is part of the (white supremacist) religious sect of Christian Identity. This community is tied into the larger organized white supremacist movement.

Third, both McVeigh and Nichols were early participants in the Michigan Militia (an anti-government militia) before the bombing.

Fourth, McVeigh read and sold copies of the novel "The Turner Diaries" which portrays the overthrow of the US government followed by a race war where all non-whites are wiped out. This book has inspired many such attacks and the OKC bombing resembles the bombing of FBI headquarters in the book.

McVeigh's attack is not the actions of a "lone nut" but rather one that comes from a violent movement that he was tied into and has not gone away.

Danthemailman said:

Sounds like propaganda to me. I’ve seen more than enough destruction from the left this year to consider them the real domestic terrorists.

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Anti Right Wing propaganda by Mr Trump’s own DHS?

Do you really believe that?

Danthemailman said:

I find no satisfaction in destruction from the right or left.

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And yet you set the level of destruction by the left as a benchmark.

JacksBratt said:

That's very interesting. Do you have links to that information?

Is it possible that Texas has different legislative abilities.. since it is it's own republic?

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There were multiple orders from the governor that changed regulations for the election, as well as ignoring election law.

Governor Abbott Issues Proclamation Regarding July 4th Early Voting For Special, Runoff Elections | Office of the Texas Governor | Greg Abbott

Texas mail-in ballot: Governor orders multiple drop-off sites closed (usatoday.com)

Texas Governor Permits Common Sense Change in Election Law | Elliott for Texas House - District 136

These didn't go through the legislative process, they were done by executive order of the governor. This is the very complaint that the Texas AG had with the states he sued.

TLK Valentine said:

I thought the symbol of the Republican Party is the elephant?

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I'm a lifelong Republican and I've been called a RINO by Trump supporters because I refuse to fall in line and march in Trump's faithful Yes-man brigade. I've been called other disparaging names, such as demonrat and a minion of Satan. I've also been accused of being anti-Christian and anti-American.

In spite of all of this, I'm still pleased and very relieved that Biden won the election and I don't regret voting for him. As I said, Biden's win is like finally breathing in fresh air after breathing in nothing but toxic fumes for the last 4 years or so. I'm more hopeful for our country than I have been in 5 years.

Subduction Zone said:

And your evidence for this is . . . ?

Buy you are right about the "comrade" bit. What do fellow fascists call each other? Though you do not realize it you are supporting fascism.

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Ehhhh, probably "comrade", given that fascism is built on socialist ideology; it's race-based socialism, in a nutshell. Kind of like what we see BLM and co peddling.

KarateCowboy said:

Ehhhh, probably "comrade", given that fascism is built on socialist ideology; it's race-based socialism, in a nutshell. Kind of like what we see BLM and co peddling.

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I was under the impression that fascism was socialist in name only.

Guinan said:

In spite of all of this, I'm still pleased and very relieved that Biden won the election and I don't regret voting for him. As I said, Biden's win is like finally breathing in fresh air after breathing in nothing but toxic fumes for the last 4 years or so. I'm more hopeful for our country than I have been in 5 years.

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Now we can resume racist warmongering and bombing the brown-skinned people back into the slave era, as we did with Obama/Biden.

breathing in fresh air after

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Putting a swamp creature bought by China in the White House isn't fresh air. Reading this reminds me of that scene in The Labrynth where the they are in the Bog of Eternal stench and they ask Sir Didymus how he thinks it smells.

KarateCowboy said:

Putting a swamp creature bought by China in the White House isn't fresh air.

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It also isn't reality.

Subduction Zone said:

I was under the impression that fascism was socialist in name only.

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I've heard the same. Often from self-professed socialists. The same that climb atop the pile of hundreds of millions of dead bodies and say "Ummmm, ackshooally, that wasn't TRUE socialism".

However historians and economists will paint a more accurate picture. The majority of fascist leaders such as Mussolini and Hitler were former socialists. Mussolini openly professed basing fascism upon socialist principles. They're both based on Marxism. While the implementation details differ, they both have a command economy. Both hold individualism and individual rights to be anathema. They both have the state controlling the means of production in the name of "the people". Socialism defines "the people" transnationally. Fascism defines it nationally or racially.

KarateCowboy said:

Ehhhh, probably "comrade", given that fascism is built on socialist ideology; it's race-based socialism, in a nutshell. Kind of like what we see BLM and co peddling.

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Where's the wrong button? This site could really use a "wrong" rating.

Hans Blaster said:

Where's the wrong button? This site could really use a "wrong" rating.

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It really would be a condensed version of many people's standpoints. No facts. No logic. No persuasion. Not even a coherent sentence. Just mashing a button saying "Wrong!". It's like the vBulletin version of the vapid chants that the fascists shout at their BLM rallies. Sophistry condensed down to it's purest, most undiluted form.

Albion said:

I already discussed, several times, the phenomenon of Biden people being simply petrified that any examination at all might take place into the many and documented cases of voting irregularities. "There is no evidence. There is no fraud. Take it from us. Stop talking about the election!"

And I contrasted that with the fact that Trump people aren't at all afraid of there being an examination of votes cast in districts which Trump won. They're willing just to have the facts come out and are willing to live with a loss if it was legitimate.

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They are not willing to live with a loss. That’s why all the loser court challenges come from.

JacksBratt said:

I don't recall anyone supporting Trump, here, ever stating that. Do you have evidence or are you just making derogatory statements.

That is exactly the kind of statement that is made, with no foundation or evidence, that perpetrates propaganda.

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The post responded to was an example.