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Hi, my name is Chance. I have been having a very hard time with God. It wasn’t always like this, but it has been hard for a very long time.
In the beginning, I actually had a much more difficult time. I’m all honesty, before I knew God, I was quite a mess. I have had many medical conditions and mental illnesses my whole life. Autism, being the most prominent one because of all the other illnesses that came with it. I know that God heals. I know that he saves. But I always doubt. The thing is, I know this because after I got diagnosed with Tourette’s syndrome, I struggled immensely, until one day when God just simply came into my life and changed everything. I say “just simply” not for the awesomeness of God coming into my life, but for how he just showed up when I was at my lowest point, when before, I hadn’t even given him much thought and especially much love. As much as it hurts me to say. But I always thought and said bad things about him in my mind before I knew him, when I was little. As much as I regret that, it was a different time and even though I know that God isn’t what I thought, I still have times where I doubt the goodness of God. The reason isn’t because he came into my life. In fact, it was the haPpiest I had ever been. But, see, the problem is, it isn’t like how it was when I first met God. I felt extremely blessed, love beyond even anything that I could imagine, and just a perfect peaceful love for God and from God and insurmountable grace in my heart.
The problems started when I actually started seeking God. Maybe it doesn’t make sense. Or maybe it does. Maybe you have had similar feelings. Or maybe you don’t understand how I could say that. But, as far as I know, that’s the truth. I knew, once I chose God that day because he called me, I would have to follow him. I didn’t even know anything about the Bible, that I can remember, and yet I still knew by the Holy Spirit that now I have to follow God. But, then it wasn’t a burden at all, really. In fact, I was nervous about it, but I actually really just felt such a loving draw to God that I genuinely wanted to know him more. The thing is, once I started looking, I also started finding things that I didn’t know. There were some Bible verses in the Beginning that I thought were Amazing! The ones about Gods love and promises.......What else could I possibly want? How great I thought it was. In the beginning, I had absolutely nothing holding me back. Nothing clouding my brain. And nothing making me hesitate. I just wanted God. I never really lost that feeling. The one about just wanting God. The visions I had in my head of me just lying comfortably and resting in God’s hand, in Heaven. It was beautiful. See, I had this image of God. One of him being absolute love and kindness. The essence of love. Without having even read the Bible, I knew God was perfect. But after I learned about those verses, I learned about some other ones, as well.
If you love me, keep my commandments. Now, this worried me because I didn’t want to fail. But after I read about God’s commandments not to do 10 things, and how those commandments actually made sense, coupled with all of God’s forgiveness and mercy, I was happy. A little worried that I wouldn’t be good enough, but I held on to God’s love and forgiveness and kept the faith. But my anxiety causes me to not see things right. So, I felt like I was now going to have to earn God’s love continually, through the commandments. Which I didn’t think was bad. Stealing, killing, and lying aren’t good after all, right? But I then had the image that I wasn’t as close to God ad I thought. That I really haven’t been good enough. So, I doubted. I also had anxiety. I was a bit discouraged. And iwaki okay that I knew this now, because at the same time, I knew that I could also grow and improve. But, I also felt like maybe I’m not good enough for God, which is actually true. The problem with this was, I started thinking, is there anything more I have to do to go to Heaven? So, I looked more into it. And I learned about Jesus. And I learned about becoming a disciple. I also learned about more rules and commandments. But then, I learned about how to pray to Jesus to be saved. That was extremely anxiety inducing because I knew how far away from God and salvation I really was. But, I prayed. And prayed. And prayed. The peace that I once had had been replaced by fear because I learned about hell more and about how it wasn’t nearly as easy to go to Heaven, to follow God, and to just love God, as I thought. So, I scavenged the internet. Looking for more about this specific “sinners prayer”. Had I prayed it right? Did I use the right words? Well, some sources made it sound easy. Others more difficult. And still, even more, until I came to one that had such a long drawn out list of things that you needed to include in the acknowledgements and wording of that prayer, that I didn’t even understand it. To this day, I hope I got it right. Eventually, through all this, not only had I ended up praying this same prayer more times than I could count, but I also ended up losing much of the peace and hope that I had once had and it had been replaced by fear and anxiety. I now had the image of God in my head that he was much more distant and, at times, seemingly unreachable. Also, very hard to please. I prayed compulsively throughout the day. I have always had very severe OCD but now it was like it translated into my relationship with God. It was like my relationship with God, instead of being based on love for God and faith, was now built on trying to keep all the rules, say the right prayer for salvation, and find all the right answers.
So, I was now in a more depressed and anxious state and felt that it was incredibly frustrating. But I still wanted God. So, I tried to find out more. I don’t really remember things very well because everything got so stressful that I think that I ended up just losing track of reality, myself, and even God through this anxiety and depression. But, here’s the idea of it:
So, I started seeking God more. My prayers became so obsessive that I started praying throughout the day to the point where I would stop in the middle of things(like running a table saw for example)and pray, I would pray for a good amount of the day and most of these were “I’m sorry” prayers about every sin I had committed that I could remember, every sin I committed(which I felt right about), and every sin I thought I had comitted. Everything became an obsession. If I so much as burped, not even out loud, I thought I had somehow sinned. So, I prayed and prayed and prayed, until I eventually got so exhausted and discouraged, that I just couldn’t anymore. But, when I didn’t, I felt like even if I didn’t ask for forgiveness for things I didn’t even think were really sins, I would feel like I was doomed. I began to get this picture in my head if an angry God who was continually looking for me to say the right things in prayer to be forgiven. God, in my mind, was now a God who would surprise me at the end of eternity with “Oh, well, you thought you were saved but in all honesty, you never asked for forgiveness for this specific thing, this one time, that you did. So, I’m sorry but I can’t let you in”. At least this version of God had some mercy. It got so much worse from here on out.
I began to worry: Is there more that I’m missing? So, I looked it up. I wanted to know. Exactly, how many rules were there in the Bible? How much am I missing? How much do I really need to enter Heaven? Do, I did. And it made things so much worse. In the Old Testament, it said, there are about 613 commandments, statutes, and requirements. That’s God’s law. I was very distraught. Because now, I had to be even more careful and follow even more rules to make it out alive. The problem with this: 613! How could I possibly do that? How could I be that perfect? So, I took the list and decided the laws into different categories. There were food laws, laws for farmers, laws for ritual sacrifice, moral laws, laws for appearance, laws for cleanliness, laws for the sabbath and Holy days, and many others. I adopted them and tried to be perfect. I have stopped eating pork and unclean things. Started following the Sabbath, and try to keep myself clean from unclean things. The only problem with this is this: How? How can I fulfill the whole law, in our world today? So many things are considered unclean by the law. So many things have pork and other things in them that are unclean. Not only that, but so many things are made in ways that they are contaminated with unclean things. I could go kosher but I doubt anyone would support me and I couldn’t afford it on my own. I barely have an income with my medical conditions. I couldn’t even get social security. I just work for people in my family for money but I can barely even do that at this point. My health and mental state is failing and I’m scared I am dying or something, to begin with. Which only gives me more fear. Not only that, but how can I possibly be clean? My whole family eats unclean things, that I know of. And if you want to fulfill the law, then you would not only have to eat clean foods but also not let it touch theirs. And the Bible says that you would have to break down and burn your things that touched unclean things. Or wash them in water. Since then, I have started washing my hands with water, among other things, to stay clean. How could I follow all of these rules? And that’s only the start. There are even more. Plus, gelatin is derived from pork, and certain food coloring is derived from bugs. And that’s in so many things. How could I avoid that, or what it touches? It even says that Jesus was with David, in the Bible. So, if Jesus was around and expected David to obey the law then, like David wrote about having to keep the law, what makes it different now?
So, I looked it up to try and see if I really had to obey all of these, and I found some people that said no. Others that said yes. Then I found scripture that argues both sides. In Isaiah, it says that people who do these unclean things will meet their end in the new Heaven and Earth. And it even talks about the sabbath days in the future. And Isaiah is prophetic. It says about praying that your flight is not in the winter or on a sabbath day, in the New Testament. Jesus said it would be easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than the law and that not one jot or tittle will pass away, until all be fulfilled. It says our faith doesn’t abolish the law but instead establishes the law. Establish: To set up. It even says in the Old Testament that the law is forever. If I really wanted to follow this, would I have to just leave and live in the woods? The most intense verse was, even if You obeyed the whole law and yet You stumbled at one point, you would be guilty of all.
Anyway, I kept fighting and trying, but at this point, I started seeing God as an angry God. Who was often displeased. And it took very much a lot to please him. That he really wasn’t very forgiving. That my salvation wasn’t really that sure at all. That there was little hope. I felt that salvation was so difficult that it might as well be impossible. I kept looking things up and searching but it just made it worse. Everyone had the answer. Everyone was the truly saved. The problem with that is, they couldn’t all be. Everything was a battle and figuring anything out became so difficult. That’s when I learned new verses. “Many will strive, few will enter”, “straight is the gate and narrow is the way”, “not everyone who says unto me Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of Heaven”, “because you are lukewarm, I will spew you out of my mouth”, “Many will say unto me Lord, Lord have we not...and I will say unto them, I never knew you. Depart from me”, “be not of the world”.......and so many more. So, I went into massive anxieties and hopeless depressions. What if I try to give God my all, and he thrusts me out? What if I waste my time trying to please a God who is waiting to dispose of me? What if I give my life away and “run the race in vain”, Like Paul said? How can anyone get into Heaven? What hope do I have? Be not of the world? What does that mean? What is a sin then, working outside, music, spending time with family? I don’t want to give up my life and my family and the good things that I have, just to suffer for the same God who will throw me away. I can at least try to enjoy life if there is only misery in the next one regardless. Why is it so hard? Why would a God who says he lives us throw most of us away? But still, even though I began to picture God as an angry God who perpetually holds me and everyone else over a flame, I still found more mercy than what I do now.
That’s because next I read how Jesus literally commands to be perfect. How can I do that? I started reading the Bible but the Old Testament came first and didn’t help much with my fear that I could never measure up to God’s law. In the mean time, I was still searching. I have had moments where I felt on fire for God and moments where it turned from hope to hopelessness and fear. All because of a Bible verse. I learned about something even worse then. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. So, I struggled with believing that I had said something, thought something, or done something to be unforgiven. This, surprisingly, didn’t last too long. Until I found about something that destroyed me. But, by now, I had already been struggling very badly. And eventually, through all the pain of trying to hear God’s voice and having trouble with discernment because I was often given many answers inside my head, I had slipped off track and just kind of gave up. Not completely, but I just gotten so exhausted that I began doing what I believed to be right from scripture, instead of following the many voices and answers. The reason for my exhaustion is this very verse: “whatever is not of faith is sin” So now, not only did I have a mind that told me that almost everything I did was a sin, including basic human functions(yawning etc.), What I ate and drank, what I did and how I did it, the colors that I wore...basically every choice that I could make. But, I also had a verse that made those feelings feel very real and sinful. So, I ran myself dry and eventually slipped into exhaustion and carelessness. This went on for quite a while and eventually lead to me falling away more and more. Until, after compulsively praying for forgiveness for yet another thing that I believed I had sinned by doing one day, I felt the answer was “no”. And it seemed that it very clearly came from God. Then I found out about how God can turn people over to a reprobate mind. And cast great delusion. Especially in the last days. But I heard a very clear instruction from God: “Fast for three days and seek me”. So I did. And sometimes I felt God’s presence. Other times, I felt utter hopelessness and condemnation. But I went and sought God with so much. All the while, I felt a dreadful sense of loss and faithlessness.
Eventually, God showed himself to me through a Gospel song at the end of the last day. It was the most beautiful feeling since God found me. The song was NeedBreathe-“Testify”. I’ve had incredible moments like that with God. However, I have also felt abandoned a lot since then. What if I’m fooling myself? What if I’m in delusion? What if God took away the Holy Spirit from me? Because it says he gave Saul an evil spirit. Then something new filled my mind. A new image of God. God didn’t just destroy evil or throw away those who didn’t Believe or even make it nearly impossible for us to be saved. God actually actively hindered these people from being saved. So, I started wondering, can I really trust God? Can I ever be sure that I will be saved? Is God going to give up on me? That is until I found something that has destroyed my faith in God to a large extent. There is a concept of Election in the Bible.
In the beginning, I actually had a much more difficult time. I’m all honesty, before I knew God, I was quite a mess. I have had many medical conditions and mental illnesses my whole life. Autism, being the most prominent one because of all the other illnesses that came with it. I know that God heals. I know that he saves. But I always doubt. The thing is, I know this because after I got diagnosed with Tourette’s syndrome, I struggled immensely, until one day when God just simply came into my life and changed everything. I say “just simply” not for the awesomeness of God coming into my life, but for how he just showed up when I was at my lowest point, when before, I hadn’t even given him much thought and especially much love. As much as it hurts me to say. But I always thought and said bad things about him in my mind before I knew him, when I was little. As much as I regret that, it was a different time and even though I know that God isn’t what I thought, I still have times where I doubt the goodness of God. The reason isn’t because he came into my life. In fact, it was the haPpiest I had ever been. But, see, the problem is, it isn’t like how it was when I first met God. I felt extremely blessed, love beyond even anything that I could imagine, and just a perfect peaceful love for God and from God and insurmountable grace in my heart.
The problems started when I actually started seeking God. Maybe it doesn’t make sense. Or maybe it does. Maybe you have had similar feelings. Or maybe you don’t understand how I could say that. But, as far as I know, that’s the truth. I knew, once I chose God that day because he called me, I would have to follow him. I didn’t even know anything about the Bible, that I can remember, and yet I still knew by the Holy Spirit that now I have to follow God. But, then it wasn’t a burden at all, really. In fact, I was nervous about it, but I actually really just felt such a loving draw to God that I genuinely wanted to know him more. The thing is, once I started looking, I also started finding things that I didn’t know. There were some Bible verses in the Beginning that I thought were Amazing! The ones about Gods love and promises.......What else could I possibly want? How great I thought it was. In the beginning, I had absolutely nothing holding me back. Nothing clouding my brain. And nothing making me hesitate. I just wanted God. I never really lost that feeling. The one about just wanting God. The visions I had in my head of me just lying comfortably and resting in God’s hand, in Heaven. It was beautiful. See, I had this image of God. One of him being absolute love and kindness. The essence of love. Without having even read the Bible, I knew God was perfect. But after I learned about those verses, I learned about some other ones, as well.
If you love me, keep my commandments. Now, this worried me because I didn’t want to fail. But after I read about God’s commandments not to do 10 things, and how those commandments actually made sense, coupled with all of God’s forgiveness and mercy, I was happy. A little worried that I wouldn’t be good enough, but I held on to God’s love and forgiveness and kept the faith. But my anxiety causes me to not see things right. So, I felt like I was now going to have to earn God’s love continually, through the commandments. Which I didn’t think was bad. Stealing, killing, and lying aren’t good after all, right? But I then had the image that I wasn’t as close to God ad I thought. That I really haven’t been good enough. So, I doubted. I also had anxiety. I was a bit discouraged. And iwaki okay that I knew this now, because at the same time, I knew that I could also grow and improve. But, I also felt like maybe I’m not good enough for God, which is actually true. The problem with this was, I started thinking, is there anything more I have to do to go to Heaven? So, I looked more into it. And I learned about Jesus. And I learned about becoming a disciple. I also learned about more rules and commandments. But then, I learned about how to pray to Jesus to be saved. That was extremely anxiety inducing because I knew how far away from God and salvation I really was. But, I prayed. And prayed. And prayed. The peace that I once had had been replaced by fear because I learned about hell more and about how it wasn’t nearly as easy to go to Heaven, to follow God, and to just love God, as I thought. So, I scavenged the internet. Looking for more about this specific “sinners prayer”. Had I prayed it right? Did I use the right words? Well, some sources made it sound easy. Others more difficult. And still, even more, until I came to one that had such a long drawn out list of things that you needed to include in the acknowledgements and wording of that prayer, that I didn’t even understand it. To this day, I hope I got it right. Eventually, through all this, not only had I ended up praying this same prayer more times than I could count, but I also ended up losing much of the peace and hope that I had once had and it had been replaced by fear and anxiety. I now had the image of God in my head that he was much more distant and, at times, seemingly unreachable. Also, very hard to please. I prayed compulsively throughout the day. I have always had very severe OCD but now it was like it translated into my relationship with God. It was like my relationship with God, instead of being based on love for God and faith, was now built on trying to keep all the rules, say the right prayer for salvation, and find all the right answers.
So, I was now in a more depressed and anxious state and felt that it was incredibly frustrating. But I still wanted God. So, I tried to find out more. I don’t really remember things very well because everything got so stressful that I think that I ended up just losing track of reality, myself, and even God through this anxiety and depression. But, here’s the idea of it:
So, I started seeking God more. My prayers became so obsessive that I started praying throughout the day to the point where I would stop in the middle of things(like running a table saw for example)and pray, I would pray for a good amount of the day and most of these were “I’m sorry” prayers about every sin I had committed that I could remember, every sin I committed(which I felt right about), and every sin I thought I had comitted. Everything became an obsession. If I so much as burped, not even out loud, I thought I had somehow sinned. So, I prayed and prayed and prayed, until I eventually got so exhausted and discouraged, that I just couldn’t anymore. But, when I didn’t, I felt like even if I didn’t ask for forgiveness for things I didn’t even think were really sins, I would feel like I was doomed. I began to get this picture in my head if an angry God who was continually looking for me to say the right things in prayer to be forgiven. God, in my mind, was now a God who would surprise me at the end of eternity with “Oh, well, you thought you were saved but in all honesty, you never asked for forgiveness for this specific thing, this one time, that you did. So, I’m sorry but I can’t let you in”. At least this version of God had some mercy. It got so much worse from here on out.
I began to worry: Is there more that I’m missing? So, I looked it up. I wanted to know. Exactly, how many rules were there in the Bible? How much am I missing? How much do I really need to enter Heaven? Do, I did. And it made things so much worse. In the Old Testament, it said, there are about 613 commandments, statutes, and requirements. That’s God’s law. I was very distraught. Because now, I had to be even more careful and follow even more rules to make it out alive. The problem with this: 613! How could I possibly do that? How could I be that perfect? So, I took the list and decided the laws into different categories. There were food laws, laws for farmers, laws for ritual sacrifice, moral laws, laws for appearance, laws for cleanliness, laws for the sabbath and Holy days, and many others. I adopted them and tried to be perfect. I have stopped eating pork and unclean things. Started following the Sabbath, and try to keep myself clean from unclean things. The only problem with this is this: How? How can I fulfill the whole law, in our world today? So many things are considered unclean by the law. So many things have pork and other things in them that are unclean. Not only that, but so many things are made in ways that they are contaminated with unclean things. I could go kosher but I doubt anyone would support me and I couldn’t afford it on my own. I barely have an income with my medical conditions. I couldn’t even get social security. I just work for people in my family for money but I can barely even do that at this point. My health and mental state is failing and I’m scared I am dying or something, to begin with. Which only gives me more fear. Not only that, but how can I possibly be clean? My whole family eats unclean things, that I know of. And if you want to fulfill the law, then you would not only have to eat clean foods but also not let it touch theirs. And the Bible says that you would have to break down and burn your things that touched unclean things. Or wash them in water. Since then, I have started washing my hands with water, among other things, to stay clean. How could I follow all of these rules? And that’s only the start. There are even more. Plus, gelatin is derived from pork, and certain food coloring is derived from bugs. And that’s in so many things. How could I avoid that, or what it touches? It even says that Jesus was with David, in the Bible. So, if Jesus was around and expected David to obey the law then, like David wrote about having to keep the law, what makes it different now?
So, I looked it up to try and see if I really had to obey all of these, and I found some people that said no. Others that said yes. Then I found scripture that argues both sides. In Isaiah, it says that people who do these unclean things will meet their end in the new Heaven and Earth. And it even talks about the sabbath days in the future. And Isaiah is prophetic. It says about praying that your flight is not in the winter or on a sabbath day, in the New Testament. Jesus said it would be easier for Heaven and Earth to pass away than the law and that not one jot or tittle will pass away, until all be fulfilled. It says our faith doesn’t abolish the law but instead establishes the law. Establish: To set up. It even says in the Old Testament that the law is forever. If I really wanted to follow this, would I have to just leave and live in the woods? The most intense verse was, even if You obeyed the whole law and yet You stumbled at one point, you would be guilty of all.
Anyway, I kept fighting and trying, but at this point, I started seeing God as an angry God. Who was often displeased. And it took very much a lot to please him. That he really wasn’t very forgiving. That my salvation wasn’t really that sure at all. That there was little hope. I felt that salvation was so difficult that it might as well be impossible. I kept looking things up and searching but it just made it worse. Everyone had the answer. Everyone was the truly saved. The problem with that is, they couldn’t all be. Everything was a battle and figuring anything out became so difficult. That’s when I learned new verses. “Many will strive, few will enter”, “straight is the gate and narrow is the way”, “not everyone who says unto me Lord, Lord will enter the kingdom of Heaven”, “because you are lukewarm, I will spew you out of my mouth”, “Many will say unto me Lord, Lord have we not...and I will say unto them, I never knew you. Depart from me”, “be not of the world”.......and so many more. So, I went into massive anxieties and hopeless depressions. What if I try to give God my all, and he thrusts me out? What if I waste my time trying to please a God who is waiting to dispose of me? What if I give my life away and “run the race in vain”, Like Paul said? How can anyone get into Heaven? What hope do I have? Be not of the world? What does that mean? What is a sin then, working outside, music, spending time with family? I don’t want to give up my life and my family and the good things that I have, just to suffer for the same God who will throw me away. I can at least try to enjoy life if there is only misery in the next one regardless. Why is it so hard? Why would a God who says he lives us throw most of us away? But still, even though I began to picture God as an angry God who perpetually holds me and everyone else over a flame, I still found more mercy than what I do now.
That’s because next I read how Jesus literally commands to be perfect. How can I do that? I started reading the Bible but the Old Testament came first and didn’t help much with my fear that I could never measure up to God’s law. In the mean time, I was still searching. I have had moments where I felt on fire for God and moments where it turned from hope to hopelessness and fear. All because of a Bible verse. I learned about something even worse then. Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. So, I struggled with believing that I had said something, thought something, or done something to be unforgiven. This, surprisingly, didn’t last too long. Until I found about something that destroyed me. But, by now, I had already been struggling very badly. And eventually, through all the pain of trying to hear God’s voice and having trouble with discernment because I was often given many answers inside my head, I had slipped off track and just kind of gave up. Not completely, but I just gotten so exhausted that I began doing what I believed to be right from scripture, instead of following the many voices and answers. The reason for my exhaustion is this very verse: “whatever is not of faith is sin” So now, not only did I have a mind that told me that almost everything I did was a sin, including basic human functions(yawning etc.), What I ate and drank, what I did and how I did it, the colors that I wore...basically every choice that I could make. But, I also had a verse that made those feelings feel very real and sinful. So, I ran myself dry and eventually slipped into exhaustion and carelessness. This went on for quite a while and eventually lead to me falling away more and more. Until, after compulsively praying for forgiveness for yet another thing that I believed I had sinned by doing one day, I felt the answer was “no”. And it seemed that it very clearly came from God. Then I found out about how God can turn people over to a reprobate mind. And cast great delusion. Especially in the last days. But I heard a very clear instruction from God: “Fast for three days and seek me”. So I did. And sometimes I felt God’s presence. Other times, I felt utter hopelessness and condemnation. But I went and sought God with so much. All the while, I felt a dreadful sense of loss and faithlessness.
Eventually, God showed himself to me through a Gospel song at the end of the last day. It was the most beautiful feeling since God found me. The song was NeedBreathe-“Testify”. I’ve had incredible moments like that with God. However, I have also felt abandoned a lot since then. What if I’m fooling myself? What if I’m in delusion? What if God took away the Holy Spirit from me? Because it says he gave Saul an evil spirit. Then something new filled my mind. A new image of God. God didn’t just destroy evil or throw away those who didn’t Believe or even make it nearly impossible for us to be saved. God actually actively hindered these people from being saved. So, I started wondering, can I really trust God? Can I ever be sure that I will be saved? Is God going to give up on me? That is until I found something that has destroyed my faith in God to a large extent. There is a concept of Election in the Bible.