Thoughts on Extreme forms of Christian music?

I mean being rendered speechless for hours having encountered the Holiness of the Father and seen the depth of your own sinful nature?

Carl Emerson said:

I mean being rendered speechless for hours having encountered the Holiness of the Father and seen the depth of your own sinful nature?

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I havent had that yet. Hope I do one day.

I have had Jesus come and minister to me but not like that

Carl Emerson said:

What seems to be missing is the redemption of personal taste as if it was somehow sacrosanct.

Dare we ask Him to walk into the deep recesses of our lives - look at our personal preferences and bring weeping conviction when we prefer other than what brings Him joy.

We have no right to hold personal preferences against His Holy Standard if we are truely born again.

In this raging battle we need to reflect His light, His Holiness, His purity, His Love.

Have you been slain speachless by His awe?

Pray for it - if you mean business - but be warned, your life will change.

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But who says God only likes certain kinds of Christian music???

I mean I have had the Holy spirit minister to me using all kinds of music styles

I have definitely had encounters with the Holy spirit it wasn't so .much awe I felt but deep sense of assurance and peace. I already was aware of my sinful nature but am not sure I felt awe. I did feel in awe when I thought about it afterwards. That God would come and comfort me like that

I know it was God. It was what I needed at the time my flesh or capable of producing that kind of feeling

WrappedUpinHisLove3 said:

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But who says God only likes certain kinds of Christian music???

I mean I have had the Holy spirit minister to me using all kinds of music styles

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Do you consider all music spiritually neutral?

True Counterphobia said:

I didn't know where else to stick this ... no more.

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Why not:

- focus on the mutual strengthening of Holy Spirit gifts which the religious oppressors under Josiah quashed

- enjoy elegant aethetics (my case is Haydn, Brahms - piano, chamber, old instruments - John Fogerty, Oscar Peterson)

- lyrics new and old should have wit like us (says St Paul)

- the light touch

I say lay off hot curries and discover (sherry free) trifles and a nice pot of decent tea. Butter and mild cheese.

True Counterphobia said:

... That is not an everyday occurance!

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But it is an everyday occurrence, in its meaning.
Meaning and the sensory are meant to intersect in infinitely variable proportions.
Be pleased that you are alive and that you are exploring taste, and learning, in all directions, at your discretion.
You are a real personality and not a figment of some system. I expect you have got wide (wholesome) hobbies really - many of them you were told to stop, perhaps by people who feared they would relax you from study revising?
Meaningful does not mean built up to be "momentous".

True Counterphobia said:

@Amittai,

May I ask what you are accusing me of?

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No, I'm not accusing you, that's just my rumbustious way of phrasing! It was you that called things "extreme"! I was - frankly - amazed there should be such a thing as "extreme Christian"! I was curious to see what that might consist of!

My thoughts on Christian Metal is that music is like food.

Some people like spicy food, some do not - musical taste is like that.

In terms of it being extreme, is this measured by how it satisfies the body?

Is the extremeness measured in terms of how the artists brought heaven to earth in the hearts of the audience?

Is the extremeness measured in how people were all of a sudden caught up in a holy fever and just want to live more Godly lives?

Extreme music is extreme because it conveys the contents of the musician's soul - stuff that words cannot give justice.

True Counterphobia said:

It is called extreme based on it's genres.

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I was examining the reason why it is extreme. The most extreme musicians in any genre know how to use their soul and pour it into the music.

An extreme Christian musician would do the same, but on top of that would bring people into the presence of the Holy Spirit who is indwelling them communicating "God's message to them" without needing to speak words.

True Counterphobia said:

@Amittai,

Perhaps I should share my favorite song with you and you can judge my tastes better that way.

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Fabulous harmonies. I have in some instances misgivings about the post-Wagner concept of "full orchestra" as the latest instruments have a more powerful and intense sound than earlier, thus we could manage with fewer of them; certainly in concertoes it is often the "solo" instrument that gets mainly showcased. I also particularly love sounds where a rhythm is picked out a little better - in Haydn by his witty silences; in Brahms by constant exchange between one rhythm and another (most orchestras haven't cottoned to him yet). Yes there is so much - and the Sibelius is one of the most beautiful. I've often liked rock music whether with a supposed "Christian theme" or not. But that's just me!

Perhaps you could have prefaced your other samples with a comment so we could have pinned down your intention with the thread. Maybe the word "extreme" means something in particular that had escaped me! This is under "theology" and I think the sound teaching is that we must each develop our own tastes. Stray remarks from me are not accusations!