Is Satan a real being or a term to identify any enemy or concept opposing God?

SkyWriting said:

There is nothing Angelic about God. God created angels and was not created Himself.
Angels are tiny little limited beings. God is infinite totally unlike angels which amount to a dot . on this page. Here is a line of angels:

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So you say; but the matter is not as clear cut as you indicate.

This is from GOT QUESTIONS;

Question: "When did God create the angels?"

Answer: Trying to determine when God created the angels is somewhat tricky because anything God did "before the foundation of the world" puts the event outside of time itself. Time and space are characteristics of our world, not God’s. He is not limited by hours, days, and years as we are. In fact, the Bible tells us that "with the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day" (2 Peter 3:8).

We do know that God created the angels before He created the physical universe. The book of Job describes the angels worshiping God as He was creating the world: "Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand. Who marked off its dimensions? Surely you know! Who stretched a measuring line across it? On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone - while the morning stars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?" (Job 38:4-7).

If we consider the function of angels, we might conclude that God created the angels just prior to the creation of mankind because one of their duties is to be "ministering spirits sent to serve those who will inherit salvation" (Hebrews 1:14). We also know they existed prior to the garden of Eden, because Satan, who was formerly the angel Lucifer, was already present in the garden in his fallen state. However, because another function of angels is to worship God around His throne (Revelation 5:11-14), they may have been in existence millions of years—as we reckon time—before God created the world, worshiping Him and serving Him. unquote.

These people are sharp regarding what is in the Bible; their conclusions may not always be correct. The fact that they have concluded means the Bible does not specifically say, which means everybody concludes their opinion on the matter.

They say, ""puts the event outside of time itself."" This really sums up man's dilemma; the suggestion that time has a physical existence. There are durations that are measured by time, time being a scale. Time is as length and volumes. Time is as a straight line, which has a use but does not have a physical existence. A straight line is the shortest distance between two points; the points do not have a physical existence, they are merely co-ordinates in a mathematical space; and the mathematical space only exists as a function of intelligent cognition.

Every time time is used it is redefined or the concept is reapplied; time is the interval between the start of something happening and the finish of the happening. Does God use time, did it take six days to create what was created and did God rest over the seventh day?


It is an assumption that God created angels or that God is not an angel Himself; any alternative would be an assumption also.

Yesitstrue said:

Sounds like Trump is real.

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Biden is real; but God gives us the leader we deserve; do we deserve Biden or Trump; heaven help us.

PrayerWarrior20 said:

If Satan is not a real being then Christ died for nothing because people do not go to hell then. As a Christian I must say this question is not a good one. Why are we even debating this? It says in the Bible that Christ died to take away the sins of the world. Without an evil entity known as the devil, there'd be no sin! This debate is just baffiling me...

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Which Satan; it is doubtful that people go to hell unless you mean go to grave or go to tomb go to rubbish tip; and the go to these place regardless of what they do or what Christ did or does. The debate is supposed to be about the use of the word "Satan"; whether Satan refers to a single entity, the way Christians use it; or whether "Satan" is used to refer to many entities the way the Jews use it; Satan is a Jewish word

Artorius Lacomus said:

The word Satan seems to be used as a name in Job. But Christ calls Peter Satan also and Christ obviously didn't think Peter's real name was Satan.
Think about politicians calling each other Hitler. That's a real name but it's being used as an insult.
I totally agree with the deeper meanings in Job.....but I certainly don't have them figured out.

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If you were a Jew or of the Jewish faith you may not see Satan as a proper name, as a Christian you would see Satan as a proper name and this is true of the Christian Bible translators. I am not all that familiar with Job but I believe Satan is Job's enemy and not God's enemy; I have considered Satan in Job is a servant of God on the basis of:

Zechariah 1:10 (NKJV)
10 And the man who stood among the myrtle trees answered and said, "These are the ones whom the LORD has sent to walk to and fro throughout the earth."


Job 1:7 (NKJV)
7 And the LORD said to Satan, "From where do you come?" So Satan answered the LORD and said, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it."

Job 2:2 (NKJV)
2 And the LORD said to Satan, "From where do you come?" So Satan answered the LORD and said, "From going to and fro on the earth, and from walking back and forth on it."

This seems to be Job's problem:

Job 37:24 (NKJV)
24 Therefore men fear Him; He shows no partiality to any who are wise of heart."

Job 38:4 (NKJV)
4 "Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? Tell Me, if you have understanding.

Yesitstrue said:

Yesterday we saw trump in the debate intimidate and threaten our country if the votes don't go his way. That white supremacists group proud boys an hour after debate have made arm patches similar to the nazis it is imperative we prevent her from defrauding the election. You heard Biden say he will accept election results.
Trump is desperate he is in debt probably a great deal to Russia why do you think he abandoned the kurds and did not stand up against Putin when he put bounties on our soldiers.

You cannot be prolife if you sit back and do nothing about our planet. Also 60 or 80% of the fires he is complaining about are federal land. Then he should maintain them and not blame the "democratic states"
He is so wrong selfish liar self serving goingbto take America down further we will never ever be able to come up for air if he is president 4 more years. We are drowning. Look at Canada hows Covid being managed up there. He has a lifetime of evidence that shows who Trump is. He thinks his voters are disgusting he doesn't even want to shake there hands. More than one person have come forward and validated his statement. He loves his voters he says before president he would gave to run as a republican because they are stupid.

I am not calling Republicans stupid he did. He is not a Republican

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Politics amazes me; why people hate Trump with such unreasonable venom when Biden is more hate worthy; If Trump is a liar then his lies are personal; if Biden is a liar hen his lies are more to do with sinister Socialist conspiracy; Trump is an individual trying to do the right thing; Biden is part of a Socialist Conspiracy; in Biblical terms the bulk of the world is Rome, allowing also for Egypt and Sodom; the Republicans are the iron and the Democrats are the clay (this has not always been the case); but China and Russia are iron and if America becomes clay under Biden, then America will be trodden into the ground.

I am not American, and I do not see Trump as not having faults but I always support the lessor of evils; the free world is depending on the American President in their fight against socialism; socialism is like climate change in that it has no real definition; Mao tse tung was not an Idealist; he said of communism (socialism), communism is a hammer to crush an enemy; if he was here today he would say, climate change is a hammer with which to crush an enemy, political correction is a hammer to crush an enemy, and political Covid is a hammer with which to crush an enemy and so on.

Covid is nasty but not as bad as we are lead to believe; There are people dying from Covid who may otherwise have lived for another few months or years, and there are people who are alive who would have otherwise died had it not been for the restrictions; but if one looks at the statistics the annual death rate or daily death rates in the US are the same with Covid as they are without Covid.

I do not believe political rhetoric regardless of where it comes from; Trump has an established record and so does Biden; I prefer Trump, his personality does not bother me; Biden's hidden agenda bothers me; not really hidden, it is called an open conspiracy, it is there for all to see if they open their eyes.