DOJ designates New York City as an Anarchist Jurisdiction (Also Portland & Seattle)

Belk · Sep 21, 2020

Aldebaran said:
Exactly.

Never mind. If you can't be bothered to actually explain yourself there is no point in conversing with you.

Aldebaran · Sep 21, 2020

Belk said:
Never mind. If you can't be bothered to actually explain yourself there is no point in conversing with you.

Well, FINE! See if I care!

Arcangl86 · Sep 21, 2020

Aldebaran said:
The same place mask-wearing mandates (a mandate rather than law) is spelled out.

That would be in the various legal codes of the several states. The mandates are all being issued based on authority given the governors by state law. In this case, Congress has not given the President to declare a city a "anarchist jurisdiction" and then deny federal funds based on that.

renniks · Sep 21, 2020

Belk said:
must of missed this section of the constitution that enables the Federal government to "step in" if the feel the like it. Where would I find that do you think?

It's happened before.
The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law that empowers the President of the United States to deploy U.S. military and federalized National Guard troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection and rebellion. Wikipedia
Originally published: March 3, 1807
Enacted by: the 9th United States Congress
Statutes at Large: 2 Stat. 443

ZNP · Sep 21, 2020

Aldebaran said:
Places that permit violence need to be recognized and put on notice.

I agree, I was not aware they were issuing permits for violence. Unless you are talking about professional boxing matches?

ZNP · Sep 21, 2020

essentialsaltes said:
No Minneapolis? No Kenosha? No Miami, where Bill Barr felt the need to send in federal riot teams?

I guess the electoral votes in those states must be in play.

Your not suggesting that Trump is penalizing states that vote democrat are you? That's a pretty powerful campaign slogan, vote for me or I'll bankrupt your state, gut you guys like a fish.

quietpraiyze · Sep 21, 2020

Aldebaran said:
I live in Wisconsin, which is where Kenosha is. I actually live much closer to Minneapolis though. So that's 2 cities that have seen violence that I live near, not that it's really relevant to anything. But watching our governor and Lt. Governor inflame the situation with their comments indicated which side they were on, and it wasn't with the peaceful citizens of the state.

What do you mean by "peaceful citizens"? There were peaceful protest. Are you including them when you say "peaceful citizens"?

Belk · Sep 21, 2020

renniks said:
It's happened before.
The Insurrection Act of 1807 is a United States federal law that empowers the President of the United States to deploy U.S. military and federalized National Guard troops within the United States in particular circumstances, such as to suppress civil disorder, insurrection and rebellion. Wikipedia
Originally published: March 3, 1807
Enacted by: the 9th United States Congress
Statutes at Large: 2 Stat. 443

Oh, so there are very special circumstances codified into law by the legislature? The president can't just write an executive order and declare it to be so?

Belk · Sep 21, 2020

Aldebaran said:
Well, FINE! See if I care!
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iluvatar5150 · Sep 21, 2020

Aldebaran said:
Then maybe they should call themselves BLM-WPE (when politically expedient). Clearly, they don't believe they all matter.

Their silence on that subject speaks louder than anything else they've said.

That's nice. When they openly accept violence the way you did, then maybe you can make a legitimate whataboutism.

Monksailor · Sep 21, 2020

Belk said:
Wow! 7 Billion? Did they say over what time span?

No, I did not hear that. I went out to find something and overheard that part but had to keep moving. Sorry.

Aldebaran · Sep 21, 2020

quietpraiyze said:
What do you mean by "peaceful citizens"? There were peaceful protest. Are you including them when you say "peaceful citizens"?

Is this the result of peaceful protest?

Aldebaran · Sep 21, 2020

iluvatar5150 said:
That's nice. When they openly accept violence the way you did, then maybe you can make a legitimate whataboutism.

They've not only openly accepted it, they've perpetrated it.

essentialsaltes · Sep 21, 2020

Aldebaran said:
Is this the result of peaceful protest?

But watching our governor and Lt. Governor inflame the situation with their comments indicated which side they were on, and it wasn't with the peaceful citizens of the state.

By your own metric, then, shouldn't Kenosha be listed among the anarchist jurisdictions?

Aldebaran · Sep 21, 2020

essentialsaltes said:
By your own metric, then, shouldn't Kenosha be listed among the anarchist jurisdictions?

If the violence was still being allowed to continue, then yes. But it isn't, so no.

essentialsaltes · Sep 21, 2020

Aldebaran said:
If the violence was still being allowed to continue, then yes. But it isn't, so no.

Is there violence still 'being allowed' in New York City?

Sparagmos · Sep 21, 2020

Aldebaran said:
Is this the result of peaceful protest?
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Where were those photos taken?

Aldebaran · Sep 21, 2020

Sparagmos said:
Where were those photos taken?

During the riots in Kenosha. At least the one with the fire was. The burned out building was later.

Aldebaran · Sep 21, 2020

essentialsaltes said:
Is there violence still 'being allowed' in New York City?

It's starting to look as if they're finally starting to crack down on it. Looks like their designation is spurring them into action: New York police arrest 86 anti-ICE protesters - CNN

wing2000 · Sep 21, 2020

Aldebaran said:
They've not only openly accepted it, they've perpetrated it.

That's quite the charge you are making....even for you...

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