Herman Cain Hospitalized For COVID-19 Hours After Condemning Masks
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I’m sure most who wear masks are afraid of catching it. And the healthy have no reason to wear a mask. If you are sick wear one when out or stay homeI see you always seem to ignore the (oft repeated in this thread) point that we don't wear a mask because we're afraid of getting the virus we wear it to try and prevent us unknowingly giving it to others. But I do understand why you do that, your narrative makes you "THE BRAVE HERO WHO IS STANDING UP FOR OUR FREEDOM!!!" (tm) instead of just someone who doesn't care if he makes others sick.
Sure I know, it's 100% more protective then someone who's not wearing one.
tulc(thought that was pretty obvious)
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(Shrugs) People don't like nuance anymore. You know that and plenty of others do too. They can be for masks or against or in the middle, but in this time? They aren't going to go there. Nuance isn't acceptable anymore. Most of the time people would ask what they mean, but today are lazy times we are to assume the worse instead. They see the words...and don't go there. Erase nuance. It's not allowed! I read way more into his statement, but I don't count.
Think about it! One story someone can be wrong about something - which is human. One side will state they are lying, and the other side will ask for evidence of lying. No one goes towards error. They are only interested in fighting. It's always the worse...always. People are playing the pretend simpleton if it is to their advantage.
I'm sad for Cain and anyone else that is placed in the hospital or dies from this personally. It's also sad that people feel gratified that he is sick. Yet, when politics reign only? It is what you get. It's pretty sick.
People are fed up, but for so many reasons. It could be masks - to make everyone feel better. It could be numerous other things. It could be a combination of issues. Heck, I could list tons of things I'm fed up with right now...and attitudes towards masks is just one of them. Yet, since we can only have a narrow vision right now? I can see how people seem to think masks was his target of opposition. It is encouraged, and being more broad in your scope isn't what is encouraged today. People could ask for Cain to expand, but they won't. His quote without nuance is enough for them.
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Yes, people that afraid - and have risk factors - should be wearing them in public. No question.
It's also more along the lines of black and white thinking.
If you wear a mask - and remember you need to prove it! lol then you care about humanity.
If you choose NOT to wear a mask - no exceptions - you don't care if you make others sick. (major hint, you don't care if you kill people)
When does that attitude change? lol it depends! The 'depends' clauses change with the political climate..not real life or nuance. They will let you know if you are loser and deserve to die in a press conference by a very popular person at the time! There are exceptions but they are fluid...and you have to wait to be informed. Yes the medical field announces changes - and the political class decides what parts are 'science' and what parts aren't. It doesn't make any common sense, and you can't be fed up...lol because they will tell you its only about you NOT liking masks! Confused yet? lol You shouldn't be! The power of the popular person will tell you what science to believe, and don't worry about their whims! It's all about your welfare, and if you don't listen? You want people to DIE! (eye rolls) its really very simple.
Yeah. No wonder people are frustrated. Yikers!
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Of course people don't want to get it, but my people wearing the mask isn't because I'm afraid of getting it.
Unless they don't know they have it right? Because you can be infecting people and not even be aware of doing so.
By the time you're feeling sick (and some people never feel sick) you've probably been infectious for at least 5-6 days or even as long as two weeks before you see any symptoms that say "Hey, I'm sick, I should wear a mask." Meanwhile you didn't wear a mask you've infected a bunch of other people, some of whom aren't as lucky as you and they proceed to get very ill and some could actually die. So please, wear a mask and try not to kill other people.
here's an interesting article:
Yes, Wearing Masks Helps. Here's Why
tulc(hopes that helps)
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So...you can't actually point to anything in the quote that doesn't support what I said? because that's what I asked you about. He was happy masks weren't required because people are tired of them. My question was how do you make that sound like someone supporting wearing masks? Because to me? That doesn't even sort of sound like that.
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Wow...we Democrats sound like AWFUL people! Good thing we have coffee and cookies here, otherwise I don't know what we'd do!
I'm going to have to admit: I prefered it before they put all those dead guys faces on it:
Vintage Photos of "Six Grandfathers" Before It Was Carved Into What Most Americans Now Call "Mount Rushmore"
tulc(is just sayn')
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...and still no explanation of how what I said was wrong except for "nuh uh!"?
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Your eyes don't suck particles towards themselves, breath is drawn inwards and hence draws in particles that may be in the air. If you lie on the floor for a long period, looking upwards, without blinking, in a room full of people breathing and speaking, you might manage to equalise the risk.
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Nah, it's because he wasn't taking malaria meds and injecting himself with bleach.
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You really can't see that "people are tired of wearing them" (which is what you said) is not the same as "masks will not be mandatory, people are fed up" (which is what he said)?...and still no explanation of how what I said was wrong except for "nuh uh!"?
tulc(understands at least that much English)
Especially given the explanations in posts 13 and 17 by @grasping the after wind?
You appear to be being intentionally obtuse, as usual. Adding to my ignore list now; I wish you well.
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I see you always seem to ignore the (oft repeated in this thread) point that we don't wear a mask because we're afraid of getting the virus we wear it to try and prevent us unknowingly giving it to others. But I do understand why you do that, your narrative makes you "THE BRAVE HERO WHO IS STANDING UP FOR OUR FREEDOM!!!" (tm) instead of just someone who doesn't care if he makes others sick.
It has nothing to do with standing up for freedom...it has to do with the science you reject.
It has to do with the false sense of security you have when you wear the mask and get people sick.
Sure I know, it's 100% more protective then someone who's not wearing one.
tulc(thought that was pretty obvious)
Huh??????
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Yes, he should have instead said, "people are fed up of wearing them," because that makes such a grand difference.
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Corona virus hysteria enters through your eye far more easily, though.
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Not all of them.. But the riots were predominantly in Democrat strong areas... and many democrat leaders were out there with them... while colored people burned out other colored peoples businesses and buildings as a protest of a very bad cop killing a colored man... Logic... where have you gone?Wow...we Democrats sound like AWFUL people! Good thing we have coffee and cookies here, otherwise I don't know what we'd do!
I'm a Canadian and even I know that those "dead guys" were honored with their images carved in rock as they founded the country that you live in and reap the benefits of all they did so you could be safe and free... Just say'n.
As are all the men whose images are being taken down...
Here's a little tidbit.. is the baphomet statues being removed or any from Islam, in the US.... nope.. just every other statue and the people are so ignorant that they even take down statues of those people who fought for the very cause that they propose to be fighting for now.....
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Your larger point is well taken. As for the, "all the men whose images are being taken down.." part:
You would be hard-pressed to show a person of color how Jeff Davis, Robert E Lee or Stonewall Jackson are responsible for them being safe and free, when they literally went to war for the opposite.
You are correct on that last part. It is disturbing that this modern iconoclasm is unaware of the distinction between friend and foe.
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The article in the OP talked about wearing goggles? Could you point out where that part is because I can't seem to find it in there. If you want to talk about wearing goggles shouldn't you start a thread where that can be discussed? This thread is about what's in the OP
I'd say it's about 100% more than the people who aren't wearing them.
Huh, it's pretty obvious you are more interested in discussing goggles than what this thread is about, so see my recommendation about starting a thread where you can discuss what you want to discuss instead.
tulc(seems like the easiest solution)
Now that you brought up goggles. Why isn't anyone worried that the virus can enter through the eyes? Could the whole mask narrative just have been implemented to stop the masses from panic? Imagine if the government said to everyone that nothing you do will keep you safe.
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That's indeed very different from what he actually said, and if he had actually said that then it wouldn't have had to be fabricated.
But that's not what he said, nor can anyone reasonably insist that it's what he meant. And to refer to what he said as a condemnation of the use of masks is an outright lie.
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