When, "studying to show yourself approved".
Please answer my question: name the husband of Michal when she allegedly had five sons, then tell me when King Shaul give his daughter Michal to this husband. You see the scripture explicitly states each of these events. King Shaul gave his daughter to David then to another; each of these events are recorded! What was his name? You need two witnesses to establish a truth (husband and wife; father, son-in-law). Stop dodging questions.
Perhaps ole sh'aul spoke well of michal when sharing something in The spirit of Torah.
What is important is that the children were given a new name.
Yitro in a Nutshell - Exodus 18:1–20:23
Can you quote the opinion which contradicts scripture? The scripture only says the males shall be circumcised. It doesn't prescribe exactly how this is to be done, or by whom, leaving these options up to choice, unless refuted elsewhere in scripture. Right?
Zipporah saving Moses life by her circumcising her son was a very positive consequence, for Israel and for Moses. I think it also shows that circumcision wasn't supposed to be some elitist thing for males only. If you recall, God actually acts in favour of Moses when Moses is challenged by his sister and brother on his "foreign" wife. Also remember, that scripture records Zippy only snipped one of the sons. To argue she circumcised the other is a fairly shaky argument, from scripture. Therefore, to say that neither of Moses' sons could serve as priests because one of them was circumcised by a mohelet is an argument that ignores scripture, to my view.
Scripture only records the commandment to Abraham and his seed (males and females) to circumcise their males (whether males born in their households, or purchased). It doesn't state this is to be done solely by fathers, or mothers, or aunts, or uncles etc. Scripture just states it is to be done. It's clear from Exodus 4 that Zipporah's performing the bris for her son was considered valid enough to avert God's wrath.
Timothy's mom presumably didn't circumcise Timothy as the head of her household, a Greek, likely prohibited it. Had she done so, there is no scripture to say this would have been wrong, and every scripture to say that it was right.
Its interesting that in Deuteronomy 10, circumcision is a command, but in Deuteronomy 30, it talks about God circumcising our hearts Himself. Uncircumcision also seems linked to stiffneckedness.
You claim the circumcision from the mother is "valid" then worse you attempt to make equal to circumcision in the flesh from the father. Have you become like Israel "stiff-necked"? Moses sons were not allowed to serve as priests or perform temple service. Moses could not enter the promise land but could only view it from a distance. Circumcision from the mother may "temporarily" appease YHWH's anger doesn't mean it is valid especially taking into consideration YHWH never commanded the mother to do so. Obedience does not equal disobedience, hopefully you know the difference. You claim Zipporah only circumcised one of Moses sons; which one? What was his name? You speak of things you do not understand. You fail to explain why Moses sons were not allowed to perform temple service. There is no scripture that says that circumcision from the mother is right. Pharisee Shaul circumcised Timothy to be accepted from the Jews? Were the sons of Moses accepted by the Jews to perform the duties of the priesthood?
I understand you promote or validate circumcision from the mother; you should know I consider YHWH to be my father. Circumcision in the flesh on the 8th day must be performed by the father. The children of Israel worshipped the Queen of heaven.Oh wow! A lot. I see many of them are in reference to Pharaoh, and the Israelites.
Please refrain from taking a similtude of The Lords name in vain in this thread.
Is there a scripture to indicate a female's circumcision is invalid?
No.
And yet only one was circumcised by a woman.
Because he struck the rock more than once, disrespecting God. The uncircumcision episode was fixed by his wife's circumcising.
God commanded circumcision of all males to Abraham and his seed. If mothers are Abraham's seed, the command was to them also.
Does the text say Zippy cut off her sons' foreskins, or her son's foreskin? I think she only snipped one, but I agree, she might have done the other on a previous occasion. Perhaps she was trying to set a record as the first mohelet, and was running a business on the side, doing entire tribes? Or maybe not! Scripture doesn't say.
If Moses' sons were not allowed to perform temple service 'cause one was circumcised by a female, why were both sons prohibited?
There is no scripture that says circumcision from the mother is wrong.
So presumably, the Jews would have expected that from his mom on the eighth day, right, given his dad was a Greek? Isn't the eighth day when circumcision is supposed to be done?
You're telling the story, and apparently not. But if both sons were not accepted, how can it be only one son was circumcised by a woman? If it was a mohelet issue, presumably one son would have been allowed? Or you believe Zippy circumcised the other boy at an earlier occasion?
As the poster you are addressing has foregone from responding in this thread.Is there a scripture to indicate a female's circumcision is invalid?
No.
And yet only one was circumcised by a woman.
Because he struck the rock more than once, disrespecting God. The uncircumcision episode was fixed by his wife's circumcising.
God commanded circumcision of all males to Abraham and his seed. If mothers are Abraham's seed, the command was to them also.
Does the text say Zippy cut off her sons' foreskins, or her son's foreskin? I think she only snipped one, but I agree, she might have done the other on a previous occasion. Perhaps she was trying to set a record as the first mohelet, and was running a business on the side, doing entire tribes? Or maybe not! Scripture doesn't say.
Exodus 4:24 At a lodging place on the way, the Lord met Moses and was about to kill him. But Zipporah took a flint knife, cut off her son’s foreskin and touched Moses’ feet with it. “Surely you are a bridegroom of blood to me,” she said. So the Lord let him alone. (At that time she said “bridegroom of blood,” referring to circumcision.)
If Moses' sons were not allowed to perform temple service 'cause one was circumcised by a female, why were both sons prohibited?
There is no scripture that says circumcision from the mother is wrong.
So presumably, the Jews would have expected that from his mom on the eighth day, right, given his dad was a Greek? Isn't the eighth day when circumcision is supposed to be done?
You're telling the story, and apparently not. But if both sons were not accepted, how can it be only one son was circumcised by a woman? If it was a mohelet issue, presumably one son would have been allowed? Or you believe Zippy circumcised the other boy at an earlier occasion?
May a Woman Be a Mohelet? - YCTorah Library
