Love of YHWH

Oldmantook said:

Our conscience is informed by the law. Without the law there is no knowledge of sin.
For by works of the law no human being will be justified in his sight, since through the law comes knowledge of sin. Rom 3:20

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Our conscience is informed by the Holy Spirit...Romans 9:1...I speak the truth in Christ, I am not lying my conscience confirms it through the Holy Spirit...

Yes the law gives us the knowledge of Sin...but the Spirit teach us the mind of God..1Corinthians 2:11,12.....No one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. What we have received is not the spirit of this world but the Spirit who is from God, so that we may understand what God has freely given us...

That translation is grammatically awful.

HARK! said:

(CLV) Jn 5:42
But I know you, that you have not the love of God in yourselves.

(CLV) Jn 5:43
I have come in the name of My Father, and you are not getting Me. If another should be coming in his own name, him you will get.

(CLV) Jn 5:44
How can you believe, getting glory from one another, and are not seeking the glory which is from God alone?

(CLV) Jn 5:45
"Be not supposing that I shall be accusing you to the Father. He who is accusing you to the Father is Moses, on whom you rely.

(CLV) Jn 5:46
For if you believed Moses, you would believe Me, for the writes concerning Me.

(CLV) Jn 5:47
Now if you are not believing this writings, how shall you be believing My declarations?"

(CLV) 1Jn 5:3
For this is the love of God, that we may be keeping His precepts. And His precepts are not heavy,

(CLV) Jn 14:15
If you should be loving Me, you will be keeping My precepts.

From Decalogue
(CLV) Ex 20:6
yet showing benignity to thousands, to those loving Me and observing My instructions.

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Blessings Hark!

I believe you and I both know that the Law was given to show us our sinfulness, and our inability to keep God's Law; therefore,

• Salvation is by faith.
• Faith (the Gospel Faith), as represented in Baptism, can only be expressed by renouncing, dying to, putting off, or crucifying the old carnal nature as our Master, and then committing to listen to and follow Jesus into a holy life of Love demonstrated in helping others, mercy, kindness, forgiveness and other fruits of the Spirit (SEE: Romans 6, Colossians 3:1-14, Ephesians 5:1-17; Romans 13:8-10, and many other Passages).
• By this Gospel Faith God indwells us by His Spirit (Acts 5:32; John 14:15-17; John 7:37-39; Acts 2:38) to lead our Faith commitment to Christ to be victorious over sinful passions (Romans 8:12-13; Galatians 6:8-10), and then to follow Christ into a holy life of Love - no longer a servant of sin, but instead living a New Life as a servant of God into a life of Love (Galatians 5:12-24; Romans 6:13-14).

Therefore, by this Gospel Faith (as described) we are a New Creature in Christ (2 Corinthians 5:15-17) - the Spirit leading us into victory as we remain faithful to Jesus as our only Lord and Savior, following Him. For we can only have one Master - God accepts no fence-sitters (Luke 9:62; Romans 6:11-14; Luke 14:33; Matthew 6:24).

Therefore, as we walk in the Spirit by our Faith in Jesus the Spirit leads us - freeing us from sin's control, so that we now live out a life of Love in all holiness.

Therefore, we fulfill the whole Law by faith in Jesus as explained, and of which Baptism represents. This is the New Life in Christ Jesus - not by obedience to the Law but by faith demonstrated by following Jesus - a New Life as opposed to obeying Laws.

Romans 7:4-6
4 Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter. . .

Therefore, as we follow Jesus, we are walking in the Spirit, for the Spirit leads to victory those who follow Jesus.

Galatians 5:13-24 (WEB)
...13 For you, brothers, were called for freedom. Only don’t use your freedom for gain to the flesh, but through love be servants to one another. 14 For the whole law is fulfilled in one word, in this: “You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” [Leviticus 19:18 15] But if you bite and devour one another, be careful that you don’t consume one another.
...16 But I say, walk by the Spirit, and you won’t fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, that you may not do the things that you desire. 18 But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law. 19 Now the deeds of the flesh are obvious, which are: adultery, sexual immorality, uncleanness, lustfulness, 20 idolatry, sorcery, hatred, strife, jealousies, outbursts of anger, rivalries, divisions, heresies, 21 envy, murders, drunkenness, orgies, and things like these; of which I forewarn you, even as I also forewarned you, that those who practice such things will not inherit God’s Kingdom.
...22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith, 23 gentleness, and self-control. Against such things there is no law. 24 Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with its passions and lusts.
...25 If we live by the Spirit, let’s also walk by the Spirit.

Therefore, the Gospel teaching is that you are a New Creation as you, by faith, keep your commitment to daily renounce the old carnal self as Master, and continue to listen to and follow Jesus – your rightful Master.

In this way, all those laws are kept as we crucify the flesh and continue to faithfully follow Jesus. This is the New Life.

2 Corinthians 5:15-17 (WEB)
15 He died for all, that those who live should no longer live to themselves, but to him who for their sakes died and rose again. 16 Therefore we know no one after the flesh from now on. Even though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now we know him so no more. 17 Therefore if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old things have passed away. Behold, all things have become new.

In this way, we fulfill the whole Law:

Romans 8:1-4
8 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

So, regarding the 10 Commandments, this was the Mosaic Law given by God to Moses for Israel to follow. However, the Apostle Paul teaches us that we are not under the Mosaic Law, but rather, we are of the Abrahamic Covenant of Faith which came before the Mosaic Law.

Regarding the Sabbath Day, you will say that this was an everlasting covenant. However, the Sabbath Day, just as with the 10 commandments was given by God to Moses as an everlasting covenant with Israel.

Christians are under the Abrahamic Covenant by Faith in Jesus - by a Gospel Faith in Jesus - A New Covenant.

None of the NT Apostolic Writers taught that the Sabbath Day was an exception to the rule that we are no longer under the Law. We are not directed by the NT to keep the Sabbath Day or any of the Laws that God established with Israel as an everlasting covenant.

The commandments of God for the New Covenant are not like those of the Old Covenant under Moses. The Laws of Moses are not for Christians to follow. Rather, we fulfill the requirements of the Law by walking in Love in the Spirit through a Gospel Faith in Jesus.

Abrahamic Covenant verses the Mosaic Covenant

The literal keeping of the Sabbath is part of the Mosaic Law.

We are of the Abrahamic Covenant by faith in Jesus -
• before the Mosaic Law was given,
• before the 4th commandment.

We keep the whole Law by living out our faith in Jesus - the Spirit leading us as we remain faithful to walk by the Spirit.

The 10 commandments - the letter of the Law - were given to the Jews under Moses. We are not under the 10 commandments, or any other Law by Moses.

Romans 7:4-6
4 Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter. . .

Romans 8:1-4
8 Therefore there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death. 3 For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

Galatians 3:19-29
19 What then is the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise has been made. . . 23 But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, confined for the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 So that the law has become our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. 26 For you are all children of God, through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’s offspring and heirs according to promise.

Blessings,
Steven

HARK! said:

Good morning Steven,

Can you show me where it is written that the law was given to show us our inability to keep YHWH's law?

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Good Morning Hark!

Romans 7:4-6
4 Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God. 5 For while we were in the flesh, the sinful passions, which were aroused by the Law, were at work in the members of our body to bear fruit for death. 6 But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter. . .

Galatians 3:19-29
19 What then is the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise has been made. . . 23 But before faith came, we were kept in custody under the law, confined for the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 So that the law has become our tutor to bring us to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor. 26 For you are all children of God, through faith in Christ Jesus. 27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free man, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you are Christ’s, then you are Abraham’soffspring and heirs according to promise.

Blessings,
Steven