Can I still enjoy Logan's on a Saturday?

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Okay, near where I live, there's this restaurant called Logan's roadhouse, and it has the best tasting meals in my opinion. I love to eat fried fish and loaded baked potatoes (now I request no bacon because of that one website, Truth On the Web, is it a sin to eat bacon? I'm not a Jew), and I was wondering if it was bad to eat on the Sabbath since me and my dad usually eat out that day, as well as shopping. We don't do that anymore due to the coronavirus, but, was I breaking a command. If Jesus physically walked up to me, what would He think of shopping/eating out, as well as ceremonially unclean animals such as pigs and lobsters etc? If Apostle Paul approached me as well, what would he think and say? Would both of them approve? (Not that I wanna worship Paul but the Mosaic law says to circumsize boys, Paul said it really doesn't matter, so what does he think of bacon? Would he love it or hate it?
 

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Okay, near where I live, there's this restaurant called Logan's roadhouse, and it has the best tasting meals in my opinion. I love to eat fried fish and loaded baked potatoes (now I request no bacon because of that one website, Truth On the Web, is it a sin to eat bacon? I'm not a Jew), and I was wondering if it was bad to eat on the Sabbath since me and my dad usually eat out that day, as well as shopping. We don't do that anymore due to the coronavirus, but, was I breaking a command. If Jesus physically walked up to me, what would He think of shopping/eating out, as well as ceremonially unclean animals such as pigs and lobsters etc? If Apostle Paul approached me as well, what would he think and say? Would both of them approve? (Not that I wanna worship Paul but the Mosaic law says to circumsize boys, Paul said it really doesn't matter, so what does he think of bacon? Would he love it or hate it?

Please hold off until after sundown on Saturday. You'd be buying food, and Nehemiah 13 says that buying and selling of any kind profanes the day. When I first came around to Torah-observance, I wasn't concerned about that, but now I know better.
 
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Please hold off until after sundown on Saturday. You'd be buying food, and Nehemiah 13 says that buying and selling of any kind profanes the day. When I first came around to Torah-observance, I wasn't concerned about that, but now I know better.
So technically, I still can go there when daylight saving times ends. But I think we got rid of daylight savings, so will it be always be daylight longer?
 
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Okay, near where I live, there's this restaurant called Logan's roadhouse, and it has the best tasting meals in my opinion. I love to eat fried fish and loaded baked potatoes (now I request no bacon because of that one website, Truth On the Web, is it a sin to eat bacon? I'm not a Jew), and I was wondering if it was bad to eat on the Sabbath

Firstly, the Mosaic ceremonial law does not apply to Christians. Bacon is fine.

Secondly, for Christians our "Sabbath" is on Sunday, the day that Jesus rose from the dead.

Thirdly, random websites are a really bad idea. You should get your spiritual advice from sensible, qualified pastors, who have studied the Bible, and whose life demonstrates their faith.
 
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Okay, near where I live, there's this restaurant called Logan's roadhouse, and it has the best tasting meals in my opinion. I love to eat fried fish and loaded baked potatoes (now I request no bacon because of that one website, Truth On the Web, is it a sin to eat bacon? I'm not a Jew), and I was wondering if it was bad to eat on the Sabbath since me and my dad usually eat out that day, as well as shopping. We don't do that anymore due to the coronavirus, but, was I breaking a command. If Jesus physically walked up to me, what would He think of shopping/eating out, as well as ceremonially unclean animals such as pigs and lobsters etc? If Apostle Paul approached me as well, what would he think and say? Would both of them approve? (Not that I wanna worship Paul but the Mosaic law says to circumsize boys, Paul said it really doesn't matter, so what does he think of bacon? Would he love it or hate it?

The dietary laws only apply if you meet two criteria:

1) That you are Jewish.
2) You are under the Old Covenant which God made with the Jewish people on Mt. Sinai.

Now, here's the thing:

"But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant He mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion for a second.

But He finds fault with them when He says:

'Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they did not continue in My covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. And they shall not teach, each one of his neighbor and each one of his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest. For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more.'

In speaking of a new covenant, He makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
" - Hebrews 8:6-13

If you are a Christian, then the Old Covenant does not apply to you. Period. You are under the New Covenant, which is found in the precious blood of Jesus Christ.

"And likewise [taking] the cup after they had eaten, saying, 'This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.'" - Luke 22:20

Further, St. Paul clearly teaches that what we eat is of no consequence,

"As for the one who is weak in the faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand." - Romans 14:1-4

Christ Himself also having said,

"And He called the people to Him again and said to them, 'Hear Me, all of you, and understand: There is nothing outside of a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.'" - Mark 7:14-15

When a group came from Jerusalem to Antioch where Sts. Paul and Peter were ministering, Peter showed cowardice, and did not eat with the Gentile believers, which led to Paul rebuking him (note that Cephas is Peter, "Peter" coming from the Greek Petros meaning "rock" and Cephas from the Aramaic Kepha meaning "rock", it's the same name in two different languages)

"But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles; but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party. And the rest of the [Jewish believers] acted hypocritically along with him, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. But when I saw their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, 'If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?'" - Galatians 2:11-14

In other words, eat all the bacon you want, and do so joyfully and with thanksgiving to God.

And the same is true with the Sabbath.

If you want to rest on Saturday, then rest on Saturday. If you want to work on Saturday, then work on Saturday. If you want to eat a bacon-wrapped porkchop on Saturday, then you can do so, completely with your conscience clear before God.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is either deceived themselves or else a liar and a wolf in sheep's clothing.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Okay, near where I live, there's this restaurant called Logan's roadhouse, and it has the best tasting meals in my opinion. I love to eat fried fish and loaded baked potatoes (now I request no bacon because of that one website, Truth On the Web, is it a sin to eat bacon? I'm not a Jew), and I was wondering if it was bad to eat on the Sabbath since me and my dad usually eat out that day, as well as shopping. We don't do that anymore due to the coronavirus, but, was I breaking a command. If Jesus physically walked up to me, what would He think of shopping/eating out, as well as ceremonially unclean animals such as pigs and lobsters etc? If Apostle Paul approached me as well, what would he think and say? Would both of them approve? (Not that I wanna worship Paul but the Mosaic law says to circumsize boys, Paul said it really doesn't matter, so what does he think of bacon? Would he love it or hate it?
Um, if you're not Jewish or Messianic, why would the rules about the Sabbath be a concern for you?

I should say that I don't ever encourage people to eat at Logan's whether it's the Sabbath or not.
 
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The dietary laws only apply if you meet two criteria:

1) That you are Jewish.
2) You are under the Old Covenant which God made with the Jewish people on Mt. Sinai.

Now, here's the thing:

"But as it is, Christ has obtained a ministry that is as much more excellent than the old as the covenant He mediates is better, since it is enacted on better promises. For if that first covenant had been faultless, there would have been no occasion for a second.

But He finds fault with them when He says:

'Behold, the days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will establish a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah, not like the covenant that I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt. For they did not continue in My covenant, and so I showed no concern for them, declares the Lord. For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the Lord: I will put my laws into their minds, and write them on their hearts, and I will be their God, and they shall be My people. And they shall not teach, each one of his neighbor and each one of his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' for they shall all know Me, from the least of them to the greatest. For I will be merciful toward their iniquities, and I will remember their sins no more.'

In speaking of a new covenant, He makes the first one obsolete. And what is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to vanish away.
" - Hebrews 8:6-13

If you are a Christian, then the Old Covenant does not apply to you. Period. You are under the New Covenant, which is found in the precious blood of Jesus Christ.

"And likewise [taking] the cup after they had eaten, saying, 'This cup that is poured out for you is the new covenant in My blood.'" - Luke 22:20

Further, St. Paul clearly teaches that what we eat is of no consequence,

"As for the one who is weak in the faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand." - Romans 14:1-4

Christ Himself also having said,

"And He called the people to Him again and said to them, 'Hear Me, all of you, and understand: There is nothing outside of a person that by going into him can defile him, but the things that come out of a person are what defile him.'" - Mark 7:14-15

When a group came from Jerusalem to Antioch where Sts. Paul and Peter were ministering, Peter showed cowardice, and did not eat with the Gentile believers, which led to Paul rebuking him (note that Cephas is Peter, "Peter" coming from the Greek Petros meaning "rock" and Cephas from the Aramaic Kepha meaning "rock", it's the same name in two different languages)

"But when Cephas came to Antioch, I opposed him to his face, because he stood condemned. For before certain men came from James, he was eating with the Gentiles; but when they came he drew back and separated himself, fearing the circumcision party. And the rest of the [Jewish believers] acted hypocritically along with him, so that even Barnabas was led astray by their hypocrisy. But when I saw their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, 'If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?'" - Galatians 2:11-14

In other words, eat all the bacon you want, and do so joyfully and with thanksgiving to God.

And the same is true with the Sabbath.

If you want to rest on Saturday, then rest on Saturday. If you want to work on Saturday, then work on Saturday. If you want to eat a bacon-wrapped porkchop on Saturday, then you can do so, completely with your conscience clear before God.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is either deceived themselves or else a liar and a wolf in sheep's clothing.

-CryptoLutheran
True, but it still is required to rest on The Sabbath. Maybe not as extreme as the Jews, but to have a little rest.
Bible Gateway passage: Hebrews 4:9-12 - New American Standard Bible
 
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True, but it still is required to rest on The Sabbath. Maybe not as extreme as the Jews, but to have a little rest.
Bible Gateway passage: Hebrews 4:9-12 - New American Standard Bible

Our sabbath rest isn't on a day of the week, but in Christ. Christ is our sabbath rest, as the author of Hebrews says,

"Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly had the Gospel preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience, He again fixes a certain day, 'Today', saying through David after so long a time just as has been said before, 'Today if you hear His voice, do not harden your hearts.' For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that." - Hebrews 4:6-8

This is necessary context to the passage you quoted above.

The day of our rest is today.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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Our Logan's has closed permanently. There are rumors on the net that the whole chain has closed.

I like to verify things like that, but even though I can't find it from a reliable source, you may not need to worry about eating at Logan's at all. It is likey they are looking for a buyer and if one is not found, they probably will stay closed.
 
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Okay, near where I live, there's this restaurant called Logan's roadhouse, and it has the best tasting meals in my opinion. I love to eat fried fish and loaded baked potatoes (now I request no bacon because of that one website, Truth On the Web, is it a sin to eat bacon? I'm not a Jew), and I was wondering if it was bad to eat on the Sabbath since me and my dad usually eat out that day, as well as shopping. We don't do that anymore due to the coronavirus, but, was I breaking a command. If Jesus physically walked up to me, what would He think of shopping/eating out, as well as ceremonially unclean animals such as pigs and lobsters etc? If Apostle Paul approached me as well, what would he think and say? Would both of them approve? (Not that I wanna worship Paul but the Mosaic law says to circumsize boys, Paul said it really doesn't matter, so what does he think of bacon? Would he love it or hate it?

The Sabbath is a day of physical and mental rest. A day set aside from other days to spend the day with the Lord ... enjoy His creation ... take a break from worldly things. It's suppose to be a day of delight ... a time to delight in Him. A day to rejoice in His goodness and to do good.

It's about quality time with the Lord ... would the Lord like to spend that day shopping ... eating at restaurants ... watching football .... playing video games ... etc. ???

Food ... you can eat anything you want it's not a sin .... but not everything you eat is good for you. It's a health issue ... not a sin issue. He gives us guidelines in that regard.

If one starts making a detailed list of do's and don'ts then the Sabbath is not a delight.

Pray about it and am sure he'll help you decide these things. Ask Him, Lord ... today is your Sabbath you made for me ... how would you like us to spend this time together.

Time ... He wants your time spent with Him.
 
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Okay, near where I live, there's this restaurant called Logan's roadhouse, and it has the best tasting meals in my opinion. I love to eat fried fish and loaded baked potatoes (now I request no bacon because of that one website, Truth On the Web, is it a sin to eat bacon? I'm not a Jew), and I was wondering if it was bad to eat on the Sabbath since me and my dad usually eat out that day, as well as shopping. We don't do that anymore due to the coronavirus, but, was I breaking a command. If Jesus physically walked up to me, what would He think of shopping/eating out, as well as ceremonially unclean animals such as pigs and lobsters etc? If Apostle Paul approached me as well, what would he think and say? Would both of them approve? (Not that I wanna worship Paul but the Mosaic law says to circumsize boys, Paul said it really doesn't matter, so what does he think of bacon? Would he love it or hate it?
Paul would have wrote an excoriating letter to Truth On The Web Ministries, if he would have chosen to engage them at all. Read Galatians, and then read it again if you have to. It contradicts what they say about Sabbath and holy days, at minimum.

It's not sinful to shop on Saturdays or to work on Saturdays or to eat at a restaurant on Saturdays, or to eat lobster or bacon any day, if you are not of Jewish heritage or living in Israel. Shop with your dad. Go to Logan's (if the one by you is even still open). Eat whatever you want there that doesn't make you sick. You were never under the Law, though you are under the New Testament.
 
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... I was wondering if it was bad to eat on the Sabbath
No.

...was I breaking a command. If Jesus physically walked up to me, what would He think of shopping/eating out, as well as ceremonially unclean animals such as pigs and lobsters etc?
He might refer you to Scripture, in which we who are his disciples have been told that we are now free from the legalities of the old covenant and are NOT any longer to judge or be judged in the matter of days, foods, and all of that.

If Apostle Paul approached me as well, what would he think and say?
Just what I mentioned above.
 
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Um, if you're not Jewish or Messianic, why would the rules about the Sabbath be a concern for you?

I should say that I don't ever encourage people to eat at Logan's whether it's the Sabbath or not.
I thought that the Sabbath should be observed because it's a part of the 10 commandments, and we do not want to break those. Also, out of curiosity, why don't you encourage people to eat at Logan's? The price?
 
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I thought that the Sabbath should be observed because it's a part of the 10 commandments, and we do not want to break those.
None of the Ten Commandments forbade eating food on the Sabbath, which is why I was surprised that you asked about that in your post.

You apparently are confusing the Decalogue (the Ten Commandments) with the ritual/ceremonial laws given to the Hebrew people (in Leviticus, for example) which were set aside when Christ established his church.
 
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I thought that the Sabbath should be observed because it's a part of the 10 commandments, and we do not want to break those.
Our Lord is the fulfillment of the Law. As a Catholic, I believe in the Lord's Day, where time is set aside specifically for God and worship. But (A) that's on Sunday and (B) nothing is written in stone saying I can't go to lunch somewhere. That's a good thing too since my local parish is very close to arguably the best pizza restaurant in town.

Also, out of curiosity, why don't you encourage people to eat at Logan's? The price?
I prefer Texas Roadhouse. :D
 
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I thought that the Sabbath should be observed because it's a part of the 10 commandments, and we do not want to break those. Also, out of curiosity, why don't you encourage people to eat at Logan's? The price?

I thought that the Sabbath should be observed because it's a part of the 10 commandments

It is ... but is to be observed out of your Love for Him and for no other reasons ... Just like all the commandments ... we do endeavor to keep them ... because we love Him.

John 14:15

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If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

The motivation must be love.
 
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Galatians 4:8-11 and Colossians 2:16-17 state otherwise.

What do either of those two passages have to do with observing the Sabbath in a certain way out of religious devotion? Nothing in them says the OP can't or shouldn't.
 
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