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I dont see any difference there. When god is in everything that itself means god is everything. How is it not?
The idea is that there is a life force or consciousness in things. And that the outer form itself is not God, but the life force or consciousness is.
 
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I dont see any difference there. When god is in everything that itself means god is everything. How is it not?
I was thinking about your question and thought of another way to answer. Hope it works. Seeing that your Muslim I thought of using La ilaha illallah as a stepping stone. But do so from a Panentheistic approach much in the way that the Sufies operate. Your question is more alone the lines of Pantheism, which is different than Panentheism.
 
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The idea is that there is a life force or consciousness in things. And that the outer form itself is not God, but the life force or consciousness is.
Everybody calls that soul. Nothing new here then
 
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I was thinking about your question and thought of another way to answer. Hope it works. Seeing that your Muslim I thought of using La ilaha illallah as a stepping stone. But do so from a Panentheistic approach much in the way that the Sufies operate. Your question is more alone the lines of Pantheism, which is different than Panentheism.
The meaning is "There is no God but Allah" and it cannot have a Panentheistic approach. Its similar to
I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God.
Isaiah 45:5
 
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The meaning is "There is no God but Allah" and it cannot have a Panentheistic approach. Its similar to
I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God.
Isaiah 45:5
But there is in fact a Panentheistic approach to God for many. Rather in agreement or not, all I was doing is giving an answer to your post #18. I guess it's not understood.
 
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But there is in fact a Panentheistic approach to God for many. Rather in agreement or not, all I was doing is giving an answer to your post #18. I guess it's not understood.
Agree there is. I mean chriatians believe in trinity and still pray to mary and bow to her statue and also pray to saints. Many consider this blasphemy but its ok for some. I strongly believe in one God who made everything. Everything is not God but the creation of God. If i cut down a tree i dont cut a god or part of him.
 
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Agree there is. I mean chriatians believe in trinity and still pray to mary and bow to her statue and also pray to saints.
The Christian Mystics are more often than not Panentheist where they find the Light of God in Creation.

I strongly believe in one God who made everything. Everything is not God but the creation of God. If i cut down a tree i dont cut a god or part of him.
Your describing Panthesim, which is a very different thing than what I'm pointing towards.
Personally, everywhere I look, there God is. The tree is sacred to me because the Life Force that gives the tree life is the Life Force of God. When you cut a tree down, your cutting a Life Force.
 
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The meaning is "There is no God but Allah" and it cannot have a Panentheistic approach. Its similar to
I am the LORD, and there is no other, besides me there is no God.
Isaiah 45:5
OK, and having Allah as an absolute reality in ones life? That reality doesn't reach into Creation itSelf?
 
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The Christian Mystics are more often than not Panentheist where they find the Light of God in Creation.


Your describing Panthesim, which is a very different thing than what I'm pointing towards.
Personally, everywhere I look, there God is. The tree is sacred to me because the Life Force that gives the tree life is the Life Force of God. When you cut a tree down, your cutting a Life Force.
Is that the belief of any Christian to believe everywhere you look there is God! What sect is that?
 
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OK, and having Allah as an absolute reality in ones life? That reality doesn't reach into Creation itSelf?
No how u see it it does not in that way. Allah is aware whats happening in each atom of the universe, each cell which means God is aware of his whole creation but does not go into its creation. Its worshipping the creator not the creation. When u pray to God u pray in your mind to a personality not to the tree or idol. Its natural to believe in God as one. Many dont admit it but when in difficulty we tend to pray to only one God not his creation
 
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No how u see it it does not in that way. Allah is aware whats happening in each atom of the universe, each cell which means God is aware of his whole creation but does not go into its creation. Its worshipping the creator not the creation. When u pray to God u pray in your mind to a personality not to the tree or idol. Its natural to believe in God as one. Many dont admit it but when in difficulty we tend to pray to only one God not his creation
Your still not understanding, or I guess I'm not being clear. No one is suggesting to worship the Creation. But let me ask you this...where IS the Creator?
 
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Is that the belief of any Christian to believe everywhere you look there is God! What sect is that?
It's not a sect, but Lovers of God in the form of the Mystics. Even in Islam you have Mystics in the form of Sufies who say the same. It's where God becomes more than a "belief" but an actual reality for a person.
 
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Your still not understanding, or I guess I'm not being clear. No one is suggesting to worship the Creation. But let me ask you this...where IS the Creator?
As described in Quran he is on Arsh which is his throne which is beyond 7 heavens(in islam heavens means sky, somewhat like 7 layers of universe)
 
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It's not a sect, but Lovers of God in the form of the Mystics. Even in Islam you have Mystics in the form of Sufies who say the same. It's where God becomes more than a "belief" but an actual reality for a person.
I understand u. I think both Christians and Muslims believe God to be an actual person
 
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