Thank God for Tongues

rocknanchor · Jan 1, 2020

topher694 said:
Clearly I can't speak for rocknancher, but I have, many times.

Additionally, rocknacher can correct me if I'm wrong but, this line of comments and questions does not feel in line with the OP or the intent of this thread.

Thank you! It may want to stay on target, but honestly, the thread was a bit of a vent for all of us whom see these two; private, and tongue w/interpretation is not new at all.

If there is a complaint that is presently being handed down from the holy text over the use of tongues, it is that both applications will always be held in a perpetual state of inadequacy. The church was always meant to never have enough of the expression from our Holy Mentor, the precious Holy Spirit! But it was never meant to foster a culture away from it!

If you ask me, presently, the average Christian whom isn't directly opposed to this gift, if my guesser is on target, thinks this whole approach is somehow one of God's weakest teachings for us to follow. I disagree! It isn't one of the weakest nor more foolish teachings, it is among His best of teachings exposing groves of believers caught with their spiritual hands in the carnal cookie-jar!!

Thank God for these few whom detail their appreciation of the culture and its alignment to the text!!!

topher694 · Jan 1, 2020

rocknanchor said:
Thank you! It may want to stay on target, but honestly, the thread was a bit of a vent for all of us whom see these two; private, and tongue w/interpretation is not new at all.

If there is a complaint that is presently being handed down from the holy text over the use of tongues, it is that both applications will always be held in a perpetual state of inadequacy. The church was always meant to never have enough of the expression from our Holy Mentor, the precious Holy Spirit! But it was never meant to foster a culture away from it!

If you ask me, presently, the average Christian whom isn't directly opposed to this gift, if my guesser is on target, thinks this whole approach is somehow one of God's weakest teachings for us to follow. I disagree! It isn't one of the weakest nor more foolish teachings, it is among His best of teachings exposing groves of believers caught with their spiritual hands in the carnal cookie-jar!!

Thank God for these few whom detail their appreciation of the culture and its alignment to the text!!!

I agree, I've taught on this subject for over a decade, including for 6 years in a AoG church, in fact I taught on it just a few weeks ago in my church. What I always seem to find is that people tend to over complicate it or are completely ignorant of it. All it really takes is putting things into proper biblical order and perspective for people to overcome some of the silliness we've seen here and be empowered. And when they are empowered positive changes begin to happen in their lives. I've seen it many, many times.

Phil W · Jan 1, 2020

rocknanchor said:
Not possible. You recall, if we do not have the Holy Ghost, we "are none of His". We then, if new converts and still respond carnally, does not make us unbelievers.

I think you missed the context of my use of the word "unbelieving".
If believers meet a man who does not speak in tongues, they don't believe he has the Holy Ghost.
They are the unbelievers from 1 Cor 14:22.
A new convert's use of tongues is the proof of his conversion.
I am speaking in a very narrow perspective here, to be sure.
I realize that Paul's 1 Cor 14 writings are of a much wider context that over-shadows the small point I was trying to make.

The gift of tongues was granted to believers in order to convince the heathen that God was with us.

Francis Drake · Jan 1, 2020

SkyWriting said:
Because it is never accompanied by a translator.
And so is not authentic. As the same scripture reasons it.
Can you produce one instance of the required translation, from your experience?
I'll be happy if you say you did.

I have seen many interpreters of tongues in action. In fact my wife regularly interpreted when I gave a word in tongues at a meeting.

And for your information, it is interpretation not translation.

tturt · Jan 2, 2020

helps a fallen countenance - sure does "He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself..." I Cor 14:4 " Also,, "...garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness..." Isa 61:3.=== one way for God to help us with that is " ...they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God..." Acts 10:46

All tongues can be interpreted "Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret." I Cor 14:13. Plus if there's no interpretation, iit doesn't mean it's off, it says MAY be interpreted.

Tongues are a sign - To unbelievers By believers (I Cor 14:22 and Mark 16:17) They can't be a sign to unbelievers unless they're spoken.

Also, in the manifestation of the spiritual gifts, there's "another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues;..." I Cor 12:10. There are numerous purposes for speaking in tongues from God.

Heard many interpretations of tongues also. Since there's 6500 languages, think we can trust Him to use the one He wants for that time. Plus He's not limited to that group. Evidence - one example - Sid Roth's program a Jewish believer after hearing a message in tongues, then heard Hebrew, asks the believer about knowing Hebrew. The speaker had not learned Hebrew. Cant remember the guest's name but I"ve heard and read about this happening .

This forum is for followers of Christ that believe the Scriptures supporting speaking in tongues.

rocknanchor · Jan 3, 2020

tturt said:
helps a fallen countenance - sure does "He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself..." I Cor 14:4 " Also,, "...garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness..." Isa 61:3.=== one way for God to help us with that is " ...they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God..." Acts 10:46

All tongues can be interpreted "Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret." I Cor 14:13. Plus if there's no interpretation, iit doesn't mean it's off, it says MAY be interpreted.

Tongues are a sign - To unbelievers By believers (I Cor 14:22 and Mark 16:17) They can't be a sign to unbelievers unless they're spoken.

Also, in the manifestation of the spiritual gifts, there's "another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues;..." I Cor 12:10. There are numerous purposes for speaking in tongues from God.

Heard many interpretations of tongues also. Since there's 6500 languages, think we can trust Him to use the one He wants for that time. Plus He's not limited to that group. Evidence - one example - Sid Roth's program a Jewish believer after hearing a message in tongues, then heard Hebrew, asks the believer about knowing Hebrew. The speaker had not learned Hebrew. Cant remember the guest's name but I hear and read about this happening .

This forum is for followers of Christ that believe the Scriptures supporting speaking in tongues.

Thank you dear 'tturt'! It (Pentecost/AOG) is indeed the forum to support all the gifts. This is, I pray a web-site to show an impartial ability, far and above bias which can rise up against this fullest NT reception, them who react naturally, in a heated fashion. If it ever came to heavy enough blows of reason, garnering traffic, I take nothing for granted, thereby nothing to be deceived by, it is my understanding that carnal hatred is a central figure for us being "wise as serpents".

Kim_Marie · Mar 29, 2020

I made my own post about this topic because I have many questions. If possible can someone please help me by giving their insight/ and letting me talk to them in a private message? I have many questions. I just need help.

rocknanchor · Mar 29, 2020

Kim_Marie said:
I made my own post about this topic because I have many questions. If possible can someone please help me by giving their insight/ and letting me talk to them in a private message? I have many questions. I just need help.

Hello 'Kim'! I'm not sure the pm platform here is adequate to handle block questionnaires, so either provide the link or shoot me or several others here your questions singularly, Okay?

Welcome to the forum!

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