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Gal 2:15,16 Justified by Faith Alone
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Here are some notes that I have concerning sacrifices and the Levitical Priesthood during the Millennial Reign.
The evidence is overwhelming:
Millenial reign Ezekiel chapters 40-48
Ezekiel 43:
19 And you have given unto the priests, the Levites, who [are] of the seed of Zadok--who are near unto Me, an affirmation of the Lord Yahweh, to serve Me--a calf from the herd, for a sin-offering." 20 And you have taken of its blood, and have put it on its four horns, and on the four corners of its border, and on the border round about, and have cleansed it, and purified it." 21 And you have taken the bullock of the sin-offering, and have burnt it in the appointed place of the house at the outside of the sanctuary." 22 And on the second day you do bring near a kid of the goats, a perfect one, for a sin-offering, and they have cleansed the altar, as they cleansed [it] for the bullock." 23 In your finishing cleansing, you do bring near a calf, a son of the herd, a perfect one, and a ram out of the flock, a perfect one." 24 And you have brought them near before Yahweh, and the priests have cast upon them salt, and have caused them to go up, a burnt-offering to Yahweh." 25 Seven days you do prepare a goat for a sin-offering daily, and a bullock, a son of the herd, and a ram out of the flock, perfect ones, do they prepare." 26 Seven days they purify the altar, and have cleansed it, and filled their hand." 27 And the days are completed, and it has come to pass on the eighth day, and henceforth, the priests prepare on the altar your burnt-offerings and your peace-offerings, and I have accepted you--an affirmation of the Lord Yahweh.'"
Ezekiel 45
(CLV) Isa 56:7
I will bring them also to My holy mountain And make them rejoice in My house of prayer; Their ascent offerings and their sacrifices They shall offer up for acceptance on My altar, For My house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples.
(CLV) Jer 33:18
As for the Levitical priests there shall not be cut off a man from before Me who offers up the ascent offering and fumes the approach present and offers sacrifices for all the days.
(CLV) Zch 14:20
In that day there shall be on the horse shades: Holy to Yahweh. And the pots in the house of Yahweh will be like the sprinkling bowls before the altar.
(CLV) Zch 14:21
And every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah will come to be holy to Yahweh of hosts. And all who are sacrificing will come and take of them and cook in them. And no longer shall there be a trafficker in the house of Yahweh of hosts, in that day.
(CLV) Mal 3:3
And He will sit like a refiner and a cleanser of silver. And He will cleanse the sons of Levi, and purify them like gold and like silver. And they will come to be for Yahweh, bringing close the approach present in righteousness.
(CLV) Mal 3:4
Then the approach present of Judah and Jerusalem will be congenial to Yahweh as in the days of the eon, and as in former years.
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Al Touthentop
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When the physical temple was destroyed, so were the official genealogies. Nobody knows who is a Levite today. The law of Moses has been made impossible to properly follow. They haven't offered sacrifices since AD 70. There's no going back to that law even if one wanted to.
Are you a house of Yawheh member?
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That's not what the Levites say; and that's not what DNA evidence reflects. Did you even review the evidence, before you made your assertion. I backed up my claim. CF rules state that you back up yours. Aside from CF rules ( I personally would ask for enforcement, in a case like this), it's just proper protocol, in a logical argument, to refute a credible cited source, with a more credible cited source. So far, you're grossly failing in your debate.
The Levites can't execute their obligation to the Torah until YHWH calls us back into the land. Aside from that, all of the law is applicable.
And?
Going back? The law was never abolished.
I've never heard this expression before. I don't understand the question.
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Paul never said that YHWH's Torah is obsolete. Paul was not a heretic.
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Jesus said that those who continued in the old law were a 'synagogue of satan.' Was he a heretic too?
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7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write,
‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”: 8 “I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it; for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name. 9 Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you.
These were not people who were lying about their heritage, these were people who claimed their heritage in rejection of the new covenant that Christ established. They harangued churches all over and demanded they keep the old law, which Paul openly taught was nailed to the cross.
28 For he is not a Jew who is one outwardly, nor is circumcision that which is outward in the flesh; 29 but he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the Spirit, not in the letter; whose praise is not from men but from God.
Circumcision of the foreskin was no longer a sign of one's faith, a staple of the old covenant and law. Only the circumcision made without hands put one in right relationship with God.
You can't follow the old law and be accepted by God. Even though many of the moral laws under the new law coincide with the old law, some have been bound further such as the 8th and 9th commandments, and the Sabbath isn't a part of the new covenant, nor are the dietary laws. And of course there are new laws. Love your brother, love your enemies, be baptized, partake of the Lord's supper, meet with your brethren on the first day of the week etc etc.
In fact, you can't follow the old law at all. But as Paul said, if you pick one thing of the old covenant and law to obey, you are then bound to keep all of it, including animal sacrifices. The old priesthood was destroyed in theory and in practice. The old law required animal sacrifice to receive remission of sins. Christ abolished those sacrifices with his own sacrifice "once for all," and he also abolished the ethnic priesthood. We're all priests with our Lord as the high priest.
6 and has made us kings and priests to His God and Father, to Him be glory and dominion forever and ever. Amen.
We're all Levites now, if indeed we are in Christ.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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Your post/ quote of Scripture showed sinners who were sinners before Jesus, continued sinning after Jesus.
Not actually saying anywhere to start dishonoring Torah, GOd's Instructions.
Those who break Torah , who transgress, before or after Jesus, remain sinners unless they each repent they perish.
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The sin was in keeping the old law when it had been abolished and replaced with the gospel. Those Jews rejected Christ. Jesus said they lied when they claimed to be Jews. You can't obey the law of Moses and claim to be a Jew. Those who do that are a synagogue of Satan he says.
The Torah is instructive, but it is no longer the law we are to follow. Obeying the Torah does not put you in Christ. As Jesus points out, he doesn't approve of those who refused to accept the new law. Presumably the churches he instructed John to write were made of former ethnic Jews, and Gentiles. And he lets us know what his preference is. His Holy Spirit instructed Paul to write that the law was no longer in effect and could no longer justify anyone. As a result of this teaching, the Jews in Jerusalem who kept to the Torah and rejected Christ, tried to murder him.
Apparently, you're in their camp because you want to teach that the law of Moses is still authoritative.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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So it is okay with you and with god if people commit adultery now, instead of keeping the Torah "no adultery", "no idolatry", "no stealing" and so forth ? Jesus also kept the Torah, perfectly, and taught all His disciples/ students/ pupils/ followers likewise.
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If you were paying attention to what I've already written, you'd know the answer to that question. But I know that this question is completely insincere on your part.
There is a commandment under Christ's law which forbids adultery. In fact, it forbids even thinking about it. Obeying Christ's law is not repudiating the Torah or disrespecting it. It is simply recognizing that the Torah is no longer authoritative.
Jesus kept the Torah because at that time it WAS authoritative. And then he fulfilled it and made it obsolete as Paul writes. He was the only one to keep it perfectly.
While it was in force, people were justified by it and were called righteous. Paul says that while the law was still in effect, he obeyed it and was blameless. His sin was to reject the Messiah and to reject his new law. But then he went all in and preached against going back to it because there was a new Sheriff in town so to speak.
The law against murder in California, is not the same law as the one in Arizona. The jurisdiction changes and a person does not break the Arizona law if he murders someone in California though the intent of each law is to bring judgement on those who murder.
Similarly, if a person commits adultery, he doesn't break the Torah (since it has no jurisdiction anymore), he breaks Christ's law. Your mistake is to ignore that Christ established a law also and in doing so, provided our instruction. We do not celebrate feasts, practice circumcision or avoid foods. We don't put people with diahrea "outside the camp," nor anyone who also sat in a chair he had sat in while afflicted. We do not exclude people from society who have become unclean by touching dead bodies, until they cleanse themselves with water that has been mixed with the ashes of a heifer. Christ purifies all and those practices are no longer in effect. He purified everything just as the flood purified the world and Noah was allowed to eat anything after he exited the ark.
To go back to the Torah is to reject Christ and his sacrifice. Surely that's not what you intend?
Hebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted the heavenly gift, and have become partakers of the Holy Spirit, 5 and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, 6 if they fall away, to renew them again to repentance, since they crucify again for themselves the Son of God, and put Him to an open shame.
Galatians 4
21 Tell me, you who desire to be under the law, do you not hear the law? 22 For it is written that Abraham had two sons: the one by a bondwoman, the other by a freewoman. 23 But he who was of the bondwoman was born according to the flesh, and he of the freewoman through promise, 24 which things are symbolic. For these are the two covenants: the one from Mount Sinai which gives birth to bondage, which is Hagar— 25 for this Hagar is Mount Sinai in Arabia, and corresponds to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children— 26 but the Jerusalem above is free, which is the mother of us all.
Galatians 5
Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be entangled again with a yoke of bondage. 2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. 4 You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by law; you have fallen from grace.
It could not be any more clear that to go back to the old law is to mock God.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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Jesus says RATHER: if they had listened to Moses, they would have listened to and accepted Jesus as Messiah, because Moses wrote about Jesus.
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Wrong word. Jesus ALSO said that if they had listened to Moses they would have recognized their Messiah. And they would also have recognized that he was bringing a new covenant. These concepts do not contradict one another as you imply, they reconcile and harmonize.
Because they did not accept him, their city and temple were destroyed along with their genealogies so that they have no way to follow the old law. They have one choice.
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