There are infinate paths.

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:

There are infinite paths you can create to return to god, but the entire path no matter how convoluted is only a detour from a place you already were. God only allows his own image into heaven, his laws, his way. Following your own way will leave you with just that, your own creation, your own path. You come from God and will return to God and temporarily being human has virtually no effect on that. The main issue that religion is supposed to attempt to correct is free will, we have the free will to remain separate from God as long as we want, we can pretend to be these limited physical creatures even beyond death, that's the definition of sin, what you want over what already is and always was.

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What evidence do you have for any of these beliefs.

Cool story bro

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:

There are infinite paths you can create to return to god, but the entire path no matter how convoluted is only a detour from a place you already were. God only allows his own image into heaven, his laws, his way. Following your own way will leave you with just that, your own creation, your own path. You come from God and will return to God and temporarily being human has virtually no effect on that. The main issue that religion is supposed to attempt to correct is free will, we have the free will to remain separate from God as long as we want, we can pretend to be these limited physical creatures even beyond death, that's the definition of sin, what you want over what already is and always was.

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Whatever your source of information, it is incorrect. It has nothing to do with Christianity and contradicts God's word. You have accepted a false view of God, the wrong view of sin and the wrong understanding of what it means to be human.

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:

There are infinite paths you can create to return to god, but the entire path no matter how convoluted is only a detour from a place you already were. You come from God and will return to God and temporarily being human has virtually no effect on that. The main issue that religion is supposed to attempt to correct is free will, we have the free will to remain separate from God as long as we want, we can pretend to be these limited physical creatures even beyond death, that's the definition of sin, what you want over what already is and always was.

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Hello AservantofGodandthelordJC, Jesus, who is God .. e.g. John 1:1-3, was sent here by His Father from Heaven (we are all from here, ~not~ Heaven .. John 3:31; 1 Corinthians 15:47), and for our sakes took on a second, human nature (IOW, in addition to His Divine nature) .. e.g. John 1:14.

He died (as a man) and then rose from the grave, still in possession of both His Divine and human natures, but with a now 'glorified' human body .. e.g. Luke 24:36-43; 1 Corinthians 15:42, the body in which His humanity resides even today in Heaven (and will reside forevermore) .. cf Matthew 26:29.

Ours, like the Lord Jesus', will be a "bodily" resurrection in a glorified/incorruptible human body.

So, there is no reason for Christians to "pretend" that we will continue to be "limited physical creatures" in the eternity to come, because that is exactly what we will be

edit: I thought I should also point out that while God is omnipresent, meaning that He exists every-WHERE at the same time, it hardly follows that He is also every-THING, or that every-THING is God. God is not a rock or a tree or a tadpole, or a man .. cf Numbers 23:19, IOW, He is not His own creation.

--David
p.s. - following Jesus' Resurrection....

Aussie Pete said:

Whatever your source of information, it is incorrect. It has nothing to do with Christianity and contradicts God's word. You have accepted a false view of God, the wrong view of sin and the wrong understanding of what it means to be human.

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There is a history of this behavior, and posting these ideas in the wrong forum.

How do dead people return or do anything for that matter. Ephesians 2?

Jesus continues to ask:

“But who do you say that I am?”

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:

The real question is, how, with a complete lack of evidence, could you think your established beliefs are even slightly accurate?

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What make you think I have beliefs? I don't. I accept certain explanations as the most likely from those currently available.

For the sake of argument we shall temporarily call these beliefs: what make you think my "beliefs" are established? They aren't. They are decidedly provisional, subject to change at any time.

What make you think there is a complete lack of evidence for the explanations that I provisionally and pragmatically accept? There is isn't. There is more evidence than any one person could work through in a lifetime, pretty much all of it pointing in the same general direction.

Now I've answered your question, will you do me the courtesy of actually answering mine? What evidence do you have for any of these beliefs? I would appreciate it if you treated that question as my priority, ignoring, if necessary, my three earlier questions in this post.

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:

My evidence is visions followed by a temporary ability to perform miracles. It's otherworldly, you cannot understand it without experience. I never thought I was a super good person, but apparently I can be good enough for God and I'm sure there's better more loving people out there that can go deeper than me if they just tried.

Very simply, God will never align itself with you, that would violate free will, it's your job to align yourself with it, but you don't have to be perfect, just aligned with perfection enough for it to start to welcome you. It's like there's a safety rope that will pull you back to heaven but you have to reach for it, its not far from us by comparison to how far true perfection is.

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Cool! It's like you are a prophet or something. A prophet who God says stuff to that He says to no one else, ever... On second thought maybe it is, "or something"

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:

My evidence is visions followed by a temporary ability to perform miracles. It's otherworldly, you cannot understand it without experience. I never thought I was a super good person, but apparently I can be good enough for God and I'm sure there's better more loving people out there that can go deeper than me if they just tried.

Very simply, God will never align itself with you, that would violate free will, it's your job to align yourself with it, but you don't have to be perfect, just aligned with perfection enough for it to start to welcome you. It's like there's a safety rope that will pull you back to heaven but you have to reach for it, its not far from us by comparison to how far true perfection is.

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Thank you for your reply. I do not think it would be appropriate for me to continue this conversation with you. I appreciate your time. I wish you well for the future.

AservantofGodandthelordJC said:

I don't talk to God, God isn't an individual that talks. God is the state of eternity.
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And sorry to those who ask me serious questions that I don't reply to, I usually don't even read replies as it is mostly naysayers that can't be quenched. But you can read my past posts, I've already covered about everything important.

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Those unquenchable naysayers are so annoying!