Ways God communicates, and we preach the Word

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I doubt I could come up with all the possible ways God can communicate with you/us.

There is the Bible. He did make sure we got those sacred writings, and it is wise to read and study the Scriptures. Yet consider this. If you read a book someone wrote does that mean you know them? Try reading a book someone wrote then showing up at their house and telling them you are a good friend of theirs. They are going to look at you like you are crazy, and in the Bible we find that many are going to tell Him on that day that they cast our demons in His name, healed the sick in His name, and even prophesied in His name, yet He is honestly going to tell them that He never knew them. So the Bible is good for study, reproof, and even for giving you the wisdom that should lead you to salvation, but that is through Jesus Christ, not knowing the Bible

Dreams are another way God can communicate with you. For example, Nebuchadnezzar got a dream from God. Yet what do you think? Was it King Nebuchadnezzar or Daniel that really knew the Lord? You can get a dream and even a dream from the Lord and not know Him. Daniel knew the Lord and so not only got the dream but the words from God about what the dream meant.

Visions, like dreams, are another way God can communicate with people. Yet like Nebuchadnezzar and his dream from God, Belshazzar's saw the writing on the wall, but again it was Daniel that knew the Lord and the meaning. Belshazzar was the one who had exalted himself against the Lord of heaven (whom we know as Jesus Christ) and it cost him.

God even uses the heavens and the earth to testify about Him, but does knowing that the heavens and the earth testify about the existence of God save you. I don't think so. Paul wrote Rm 10:18 …"Their voice has gone out into all the earth, and their words to the ends of the world" and that when much was not known by Paul or anyone around him about the ends of the world. So that none of us, believer or not or well known people or not, none have an excuse.

Still we are told to preach the Word, and we know that Jesus Christ is the Word.

Jn 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God, He was in the beginning with God.

Jesus Christ is the Word of God because the very words of God belong to Him.

Jn 16:15 All things the Father has are Mine...

And we know the Holy Spirit gets the words that belong to Him and like a living telephone line to our Lord, the Spirit gives them to us to guide us into understanding.

Jn 16:14 He will glorify Me, for He will take of Mine and will disclose it to you.

So it is that Jesus said He stands at the door and knocks, and if anyone hears His voice and open the door He will come into them and eat with them and them with Him. (Rev 3:20)

And so it is that we preach the Word (Jesus Christ) meaning that if we listen and open up to Him we will eat with Him and Him with us, so that like Daniel, we can be guided by the His Holy Spirit into understanding of the dreams He gives us, the visions He gives us and whatever we are getting from the heavens and the earth.

So it is that the word we preach is found in our hearts and perhaps in our mouth, because the Spirit of God speaks to our spirit, the words that belong to and come from our Lord Jesus Christ.

Rm 10:8 but what does it say? "THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, in your mouth and in your heart" -- and that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord...

We understand that our Lord is the One who gives us instructions, right?

He once told me "Karl, I want you to preach the Word, but not as it is so often preached today. I want you to preach I AM the word of God." - So my friends - the Great I AM is the Word of God, meaning that He is with your at all times and He has the words of God for you personally! So we need to listen. The dreams, visions, and other ways of Him communicating are all great, but we preach the Word. (Him)

Rev 19:13 He is clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God.
 
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I doubt I could come up with all the possible ways God can communicate with you/us. <>
Call on the name of the Lord, and in all your ways acknowledge Him and He shall direct your path. For the Lord is near to those who are humble and He listens to the cries of His children.

God’s way isn’t a one package for all people at all times. In the olden days He spoke thru the prophets but now He speaks thru the Son only.

Everything that Jesus heard from the Father, He made known to His disciples. Then He said He will send the Holy Spirit to illuminate those words to us.

That’s how we know that the word made clear in our lives is from God, because it’s distinguishable as from the Holy Spirit, … reflecting on Christ …. and illuminating a characteristic of the Father …. is there for us to emulate …. by yielding to the Holy Spirit …. in that area.

It’s great that you have given yourself over to His leading in the minute things all day everyday for we’re told to bring every thought captive to Christ. With that comes directions for the path.

However, and altho the still small is what is to be paid attention to, some would see what you see as the thunder and lightnings. The reason for that is because they receive direction from the illumination of His word prompting them in the direction they should take.

That is very much the same as hearing an audible voice because it’s no less a recognition of His leading, therefore the sheep are still hearing His voice and following the Great Shepard.

As you’ve said in previous posts, you have gotten yourself out of the rut of stinken thinken by training your mind to focus second by second. Other people’s minds have been trained to recognize Jesus’s voice in scripture.

I can’t say that either is right or wrong, just that God is not limited to His means. If He spoke in the old days in diverse ways it kinds stands to reason that He also goes now. But no matter it should all be an illumination of Himself. Whether it be about His care for His sheep or ……
 
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The second part of the post refers to preaching and the stipulation for that is as follows
1 Peter 4:11 (NIV) “If anyone speaks, they should do so as one who speaks the very words of God. If anyone serves, they should do so with the strength God provides, so that in all things God may be praised through Jesus Christ. To him be the glory and the power for ever and ever.

I’ll just add my post from another thread as what I feel is an explanation of that word

Romans 12:6-8 follows the progression of prophesy in the new testament time for the church.

Starting at the first verse, Romans 12:6 prophesy is a direct revelation from God that speaks for God. Hebrews 1 tells us that in times past God spoke to us thru prophets but in this day He speaks to us thru the Son.
So in a change from the old priesthood and into the new it has been scripturally pointed out that the old has passed away, become obsolete. Now prophesy is always related to Christ and a deeper revelation of Him for the edification of His Body.

The mind of Christ is given to His own and all believers should strive to gain by truly laying themselves out as a living sacrifice Romans 12:1-3 (death to self) and that's just considered by God as a reasonable service of all believers.

Prediction also can be included in prophesy. In any case it's light shining into the darkness.

The next verse, Romans 12:7 relates to teaching, usually that which is revealed prophetically being taught. Teachers then would teach from their conviction of the truth revealed to their hearts, as truth, and according to the Holy Spirit within them but always aligned with that contained in scripture.

The verse following that Romans 12:8 is exhortation that is based on both of the above.

All 3 are used for building His Body up in stature leading to the fullness of Christ.

And all of them supply life to the saints because of the line pointing straight from the Son to illuminate the Father for the Son’s Body of believers.

This is not to debate what you have written but to provide a fuller view from someone who learns from both, in hearing His voice and hearing from scripture, the latter being the more common use, but always in the heart’s response to the word.
 
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Other people’s minds have been trained to recognize Jesus’s voice in scripture.

I generally liked the above posts, but I do feel that a response on the above part is important.

Those people who wrote the Scriptures heard from the Lord and wrote down what they heard. God keep those writings and for a purpose and that purpose involved us today. Still read the ink on the pages is not actually hearing from Him. That doesn't mean that you might not be hearing from Him while you are reading the Scriptures. Just like a teacher uses a text book, and might indeed have you look at part of the text book while commenting on it, so The Teacher might do the same thing. I would expect that. Yet shouldn't we be able to hear Him well enough to be able to actually separate His voice and what He is saying to us personally from what we are reading at the time? If not, are we not dull of hearing?

Heb 5:11 Concerning him we have much to say, and it is hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing.

In the early church, the Hebrews were the ones raised up with the Scriptures, and they should have been used by God to teach others, but they had become dull of hearing, because they didn't practice using their spiritual senses. They didn't practice hearing the voice of the Lord. The fact is; the more we seek the Lord and His voice, the better we get at hearing from Him. And reading the Scriptures is not practicing hearing His voice - or how else can you explain how Saul who had extensive study of the Scriptures wound up saying "Who are you Lord?" when he heard from the Lord on the road to Damascus?

If indeed reading and studying the Scriptures was hearing the voice of the Lord Paul would have known who was speaking to Him? Also Jesus could not have told the Pharisees that they didn't hear the words of God, if indeed studying the Scriptures is hearing the words of God!!!

Jn 8:47 He who is of God hears the words of God; for this reason you do not hear them, because you are not of God

He told that to people who studied the Scriptures. Reading the Scriptures and hearing the words of God are not the same things, but you might be reading and hearing Him at the same time. Many times I have heard Him talking to me about the Scriptures while I have been reading them - but more times than not He talks to me about them before and or after I read them.

And more importantly still, is that most of the times He talks to me it is not about the Scriptures at all!!!

Your, Mine, Our lives are not mostly made up of studying the Scriptures! It is about our work, or relationships, our shopping, our playing, our traveling, our doing the things we do through out the day - and He never leaves you! So when should we be hearing from Him?

So if someone is saying they hear Him in the Scriptures, are they not also confessing that they are not practicing hearing Him through out the day?

As for me, I usually sit down with Him for a little bit in the morning and I pray the Lord's prayer with some extra's and I have a Bible handy if He wants to go over something with Me. He also sometimes takes me to the bible at other times in the day. But I hear from Him about a dozen different times during a typical day. So He usually is not talking to me about the Scriptures. And somedays He doesn't talk to me about the Scriptures at all. Today was one of those days. I sat down with Him this morning like I usually do, but today was Monday and I had to catch up on some work from the weekend. So He talked to me about that even during my specific time put aside for Him. He also told me that He was sending me some angels to help me today, because of the work I had to get done.

Heb 1:14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent out to render service for the sake of those who will inherit salvation?

So we should not only be hearing the Lord daily, but we should also know about the Kingdom of God and should have heard the angels minister to us also. We have read about seeking first the Kingdom of God and all these things (the things like food, clothing, and such) will be added to you. So today I heard from the Lord, and that He was sending me angels to help me with my business, which through which he provides things like food, clothing, and such.

So it is that I try to tell people that we need to listen to Him more, but then they often come back and tell me something like 'well, I hear from Him through the Scriptures' -- Ok fine, but it that all?? What about hearing Him while at work? Don't we think that He could help us there also? What about with our relationships? He had so often gotten me out of trouble when I said the wrong thing to my wife. I'm not that smart and do sometimes say the wrong thing. Thank God that He is around to help me. And what about all the rest of the parts of your life???

Do we even know about the Kingdom of God? We have a King and thus a Kingdom is available to help us, at His command and He does command as the King of kings and Lord of lords. Are we picking up all this, like it is explained in the Scriptures?

Ps 91:1 He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High...…. 91:1... He will give His angels charge concerning you, To guard you in all your ways.

So we have a King which has a Kingdom and He talks to you, and He sends ministering spirits (angels) to you, and He gives His angels charge concerning you, To guard you in all your ways.

And somehow it seems that people only hear when they are reading their Bible. What sense does that make? What happens when you make your way to the store?

I don't hear as often as I should, but even I can hear while I read and in all my ways if I care to listen.
 
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I agree that a general reading of the scriptures is not hearing from Him, that is just letters on a page. No one should even attempt to read anything for the purpose of learning from Him unless they have prayerfully submitted to learning from the Holy Spirit. I remember someone once explaining that they accomplished that by first pray themselves ‘hot’ (meaning the Presence was there) then they read themselves ‘hot’ (meaning something in the bible was brought to their attention) and then they meditated on that word until a calm peace came to them.

But what I meant by 'Other people’s minds have been trained to recognize Jesus’s voice in scripture.’ is that scripture is brought to mind as God guides them. Training of the mind can’t be accomplished by an uncommitted mind.

I really think that God has given you a very special gift. And your right that only the Great I Am is that which should be preached. All aspects of Him and His work. Because if it’s not then all one is doing is giving a lesson in philosophy.

And it’s not just words from the bible that are leading either. For instance just a few minutes ago I got up thinking, "Lord I’m so tired of studying for others, nobody seems to care" and immediately the words to the song 'There’s a time for us’ started singing in my head and I was reassured that Him and I were in on this (my life) together. I was left with the impression to slow down and wait on Him.
Btw, I had to look up the lyrics after that because it wasn’t exactly on my playlist, lol.

What concerns me is that altho I have dreams were His knowledge has been imparted and His voice guides, there have been extended times (earlier on sometimes years)when they left and all I had was scripture to guide me. A good reading of Songs of Solomon will tell you that is very much part of His way of teaching. There’s nothing worse than suddenly feeling abandoned like when Jesus had to leave His disciples. He told them He would send the Holy Spirit to illuminate those words that we have been left with to us. I would have quit right then and thought I had failed but I knew failing was believing that He would ever leave me or forsake me. So like the beloved in the Songs I had to search deeper to find Him.

That reminds me that God gives to many good gifts to encourage people but blessed are those who have not seen and have believed.


There's a place for us
A time and a place for us
Hold my hand and we're half way there
Hold my hand and I'll take you there
Somehow
Someday
Somewhere

I want to add that intuition is that part of the human spirit that communes with God. When all else has passed and knowledge is no longer that is what will remain.
I’ll also add this to explain

Getting to the heart of nous: Intellect plus spiritual understanding: the art and soul of spirituality as a reliable means of interaction with God. Nous is interpretated to mean both intellect and spiritual understanding. Ephesians 4:17 shows a darkened intellect while Ephesians 4:23 shows an enlightened intellect. Believers must have a renewed nous. The organ (nous) with function (dianoia) needs to commune with God functionally as the way to be more and more in tune with God.
Ephesians 4:18 You should no longer walk as the Gentiles also walk in the vanity of their nous, being darkened in their dianoia.

Therein is the answer to Romans 12:1-3 the mind of Christ Philippians 2:5
 
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When talking to Christians it seems like we all have times when it just doesn't seem like the Lord is around - Yet we read in the Bible that He would never leave us. So we try to balance those things in our mind and come to our conclusions. Yet, did you not notice that I wrote "our conclusions"?

Since we read that He never leaves us, then He never does!! Now is sound like I am saying follow what the Bible says, but I am not. I am saying the Bible is correct, but we are to be following the Lord like the Bible says!! And He said His sheep hear His voice, that He guides them out with His voice, and that He never leaves us.

So a person saying or suggesting there are times when He is not there and He won't talk to then is leaning on their own understanding, no matter how much they tell themselves they are following the Bible. If they truly believed the writings in the Bible they could not come to the conclusion that the Lord is not there and or in not willing to talk to them! They would have to look to other possible conclusions!!

Now I am not different that other people, so there have be plenty of times that is has seemed to me that He was not there with me, or that He was unwilling to talk to me!! Of course that is wrong, according to the Bible, so I had to consider what else could be wrong!! I can't turn to trying to follow my Bible, because it doesn't think, is not alive, and thus can't lead me. It has great information, but the Bible is not the living Word of God; He is the living Word of God!

Of course all that doesn't mean I am going go about trying to do things wrong. I am going to try and do thing right, even when I am having trouble hearing from Him, but the right things is always seeking Him for advice.

So during those times when I am having trouble hearing from Him, I remember that He never does leave me, and He loves me, so He will answer my questions. What I need to do is slow down, ask Him, and listen carefully to what I get. Perhaps like the testimony in the above post, I pick up a song from Him. or maybe I get a dream of vision. Maybe I get an unction like and intuition or feeling. Please note that I already said the God has many ways to communicate with us, and I can't cover them all here.

Never-the-less, we preach the Word. So even when I get the song, the dream, the vision, or even if a verse comes to mind, I need to go back to Him and ask for an explanation!!!! Because I am looking and preaching the Word of God. It is written that the Lord gives wisdom; from His mouth come knowledge and understanding. (Prov 2:6)

Now let me slow this down some more. - It is the Spirit of God who speaks to our spirit, not sound waves. So sometimes I did get a Word from God, via His Holy Spirit, but I did not take the times needed to consider that. That is to say, the Holy Spirit puts impressions on your spirit which can be picked up in words, but we not realize that is what is happening!


For example: If you come up to a stop sign while driving you can pick up that sign by reading (picking up the impression the sign puts on you) the word "Stop". Yet how often do you actually take the time to read the word "Stop" on the stop sign? Almost never, right. And that is how we are with the Holy Spirit. We get impressions from Him, even kind of realize they came from Him, but we don't slow down and consider that He is speaking to us in "words"!

So what happens is that we going around tell other people the God doesn't speak to them in words, but in a feeling, an unction, or an intuition, when He always wanted to slow down and listen to the Words of God that He personally has for you!!

We spiritually speaking are "blowing thru the Stop Sign" that God has for us!!

So my suggestions is that we slow down and pay attention to the "Words" He personally has for us. Are we or are we not preaching Jesus Christ and Him as the Word of God?
 
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Being dull of hearing means a preference for milk rather than strong meat because of defective spiritual understanding. That refers to His Priesthood at the throne of grace where belief that He died and rose again is actuated . Mediation takes place there so of course it’s not a one-way street. That’s where the conscience is wiped clean to have the confidence to carry on in His Name. Every Christian has that right. Not a privileged few. The heavenly gift is the Word of God, and the gospel of grace is good to taste (that cannot mean just hearing), the Holy Spirit being synonymous with the power of the world to come because He is the source of the gift. The light of illumination is the cardinal fact of maturity.

But no, I don’t consider myself as falling away when I don’t obtain to that which is your prescribed method of hearing from Him. But thanks for the talking to all the same. Have a good New Year.
 
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I understand that God communicates with people in numerous ways, and since it is God communicating with people, they are all good because God is good.

Yet we are told to preach the Word, and we are told that the Word we preach in found in our hearts and on our lips.

So "words" are "words", right?

It is written that His "words" are spirit - so we are not talking sound waves - but we are still talking "word" spoken from the Spirit of God to our spirit, right? Because Jesus explain that is was the Spirit, right?

So I read this in the Bible - but that is not good enough. It has to be really true - but for me it is. I hear words from Him! From the first words I heard from Him "Read Your Bible" to the conversation about what we (Him and I) are doing this year, which we had this morning. I pick Him up in words.

Now, after He talks to me I tend to meditate on what He has told me. What are "we" (Him and I doing this year?) He was a little vague, apparently because He wanted my input or feelings on the subject?

Anyway, that is my personal walk with Him. He communicates with me in many ways, but I hear Him in "words." Which is exactly what the Bible tells us!
 
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I understand that God communicates with people in numerous ways, and since it is God communicating with people, they are all good because God is good.

Yet we are told to preach the Word, and we are told that the Word we preach in found in our hearts and on our lips.

So "words" are "words", right?

It is written that His "words" are spirit - so we are not talking sound waves - but we are still talking "word" spoken from the Spirit of God to our spirit, right? Because Jesus explain that is was the Spirit, right?

So I read this in the Bible - but that is not good enough. It has to be really true - but for me it is. I hear words from Him! From the first words I heard from Him "Read Your Bible" to the conversation about what we (Him and I) are doing this year, which we had this morning. I pick Him up in words.

Now, after He talks to me I tend to meditate on what He has told me. What are "we" (Him and I doing this year?) He was a little vague, apparently because He wanted my input or feelings on the subject?

Anyway, that is my personal walk with Him. He communicates with me in many ways, but I hear Him in "words." Which is exactly what the Bible tells us!
I want to add that intuition is that part of the human spirit that communes with God. When all else has passed and knowledge is no longer that is what will remain.
Blessed is the one who can preach w/o saying a word, so I have heard. Being intune with Him may be the next step for you, who really knows. But really that’s between Him and you so I’ll leave this thread and you to your walk with Him. Do not judge before the time.
 
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In the Scriptures we see where Jesus said that what we hear whispered in our ear, shout on the house tops.

I hear a lot of people tell me they follow the Bible when I tell them that we are to follow our Lord Jesus Christ and His sheep hear His voice. Do they? Jesus preached the Kingdom of God, and He did it with words. Not only words. We all have lots of way to communicate, but Jesus said lots of things about hearing, and with words!!

Simple things like having are ear to hear, and other interesting things like:

"Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will not pass away"

And He who is of God hears the words of God...

Now I pick Him up in lots of ways, still I get my instructions via words. He teaches me with words. He says things like:

"To believe me for more you must first believe me for what I've already given you. "

Hasn't we already been given us the Holy Spirit and of Him it is written:

Jn 6:63 It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing; the words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life

So while I get dreams, visions, strange feelings, impression, read the Bible, listen to preacher, sometimes pick up a fragrance from Him, or even a taste, see miracles, get weird circumstances that I know He set up, and realize that He communicates with me in so many more ways; never-the-less it is His words the I pick up from Him via the Spirit of God which give me life!!

So it is that I preach the Word of God!

And Note: I don't mean the Bible, when I say the Word of God, but I mean He talks to us and we need to listen - just like written in the Bible. He, our Savior the Christ who took on flesh and whose name is called the Word of God has been revealed to us, right? He said He stands at the door and knocks and if anyone hears His voice and opens the door He would come into them.

So the call is to anyone, as in everyone. And if we have physical ears, don't we also have spiritual ears. Yet it is also written, 'with their ears they don't hear'.

I once told Him, "Lord, it is not always easy to hear from You"
Instantly He replied back to me, "Karl, it is easy to hear from Me, but it might be hard to believe that."
He was right! He is always right! It is easy to hear from Him, but it is not always easy to believe that.

So it is that I sometime have trouble believing Him for certain things. Then I try hearing Him for something I can believe Him for, like which foot to put forward next and when. And of course that snake's first words were "Did God really say", and he hasn't repented. So that question "Did God really say", comes to me too. So what am I going to say? I say He speaks to me. He has told me so many things. He has even told me that certain people have specific problems, like a bad stomach, and asked me to pray for them and I find out they do and then see Him heal them.

I have seen incredible things of all types - still the thing I like best is Him saying to me, "Karl, I love you." And that is the most common thing I hear Him say to me!

So people, don't you think you should seek Him and the words He has for you personally?

I would not recommend listening to the snake who said and still does say, "Did God really say" - I would pay attention to the Father who concerning His Son said, "Listen to Him" Or I would pay attention to what Isaiah wrote, "Listen, O heavens, and hear O earth; For the Lord speaks. Or maybe to king Solomon who got from the Lord, "Turn to my reproof, Behold, I will pour out my spirit on you; I will make my words known to you." Perhaps we should answer the question Paul but forth, "This is the only thing I want to find out from you; did you receive the Spirit by works of the Law, or by hearing with faith?

As for me - I seek the Lord Jesus Christ and try to listen for His words and I hear words from Him from His Holy Spirit speaking to my spirit. That is what happens and seem to be exactly what the Bible explains will happen.
 
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