Mayor promises ICE raids 'will be met with fierce resistance from Chicagoans'

The Barbarian · Aug 5, 2019

You mentioned the false messiah, not me.

Donald 'MESSIAH' Trump: The Man, the Myth, the Messiah?
If the Messiah is here, and he is very well known as one Rabbi said; he has not been indwelt by the Messiah spirit (Holy) yet, and does not know who he is until then! When D. J. Trump is inaugurated, and steps into the oval office according to biblical prophecies on Trump, it is at this point that he will be filled with the Holy Spirit!
There is information on how America plays a major role, and has given me understanding along with a few others referring to the lost tribes of the Northern Kingdom, etc. The Lord has begun “the Countdown,” and how D. Trumps presidency will make America great again.
Keep this eBook, print it out, and glean from it daily or weekly, because this is a GIFT from God! Truly…and even though it may seem complicated, and it is! It also will impart understanding along the way; confusion will turn to insight, and perception.
Is Donald John Trump the Messiah? By our works outsiders will recognize us, right? By Trumps works we also will recognize if he is from God or not.

kcnalp · Aug 5, 2019

God has blessed Israel with President Trump!

The Barbarian · Aug 5, 2019

It's all well and good to laugh, but there are people out there, who take this stuff seriously.

tulc · Aug 5, 2019

Mountainmanbob said:
Because Chicago is in such great shape.
M-Bob

We like it. Sorry it seems a scary place to President Trump and some of his supporters. :wave:

tulc(maybe M-Bob should just stay on the mountain with the goats?)

tulc · Aug 5, 2019

kcnalp said:
God has blessed Israel with President Trump!

America however, not so much... :sigh:

tulc(sorry, but if kcnalp is going to tee up the ball it would be rude not to hit it) :sorry:

Shiloh Raven · Aug 5, 2019

The Barbarian said:
It's all well and good to laugh, but there are people out there, who take this stuff seriously.

I'm sure it's the same people who repeatedly condemned Bill Clinton for his sexual deviant behavior and sexual scandals, but now they passionately defend Trump by insisting he shouldn't be judged for his sins. It's one of the reasons why they have been accused of selling out to Trump and compromising their convictions. It's also one of the reasons why they have been the subject of articles like these.

Trump-Loving Christians Owe Bill Clinton an Apology

How has President Trump changed white Christians' views of 'morality'?

How could Christians support Trump’s lies? It depends on what you mean by ‘truth.’

Evangelicals slammed Bill Clinton's sexual misconduct. So why does Trump get a pass?

The Barbarian · Aug 5, 2019

Psychologists have explained quite a lot about Donald Trump’s political invincibility and the unconditional allegiance of his followers. One well-supported explanation is that the president keeps his base loyal by keeping them fearful. Through persistent fear-mongering, with messages like, “Illegal immigrants are murderers and rapists,” and “Islam hates us,” Trump gets to play the role of the great protector.

But there is another important reason why Trump loyalists do not waver no matter how he behaves or what scandals come to light. For most evangelicals, it is not only fear that keeps them in line, but it is also faith. As a cognitive psychology researcher who has been writing about the science underlying Trump’s support since he began his presidential campaign, I have learned—through comments, emails, and discussion forums—that a significant portion of his supporters literally believe the president was an answer to their prayers. He is regarded as something of a messiah, sent by God to protect a Christian nation.

As obvious as this might sound to some, it is something I did not give serious consideration to initially. As someone who is not particularly religious, it did not occur to me that anyone might believe that a politician would be sent by an all-powerful supernatural deity to change the course of human history unless it was in a highly abstract or purely metaphorical sense. It is simply not built into my hardwiring to see someone that way.

That kind of thinking is precisely why dangerous cult leaders are able to rise to prominence. Nothing good can come from putting any single person on a spiritual pedestal. No one is infallible, no one is free from bias, and no one is honest all of the time, no matter how hard they may strive. This goes for Republicans, Democrats, Popes, and Dalai Lamas. Because of this fact of human nature, we must always scrutinize our leaders, and always question their decisions and motivations. What makes a good president is the ability to survive our constant scrutiny and the scrutiny of the free press. Through this process, which is critical, we can get a better sense of whether a politician is trying their best, and whether or not they generally have Americans’ best interests in mind.

I am not saying that Donald Trump does not have the bests interests of some groups of Americans in mind. I’d like to believe that he genuinely wants to make America safer from real threats, like ISIS and violent gangs (whether he has done so remains to be seen). But Trump's desire to win and amass power may be a priority above all else. He may understand that most Muslims and most immigrants are not dangerous and want to see America prosper. But he quickly found out, through trying various strategies, that fear was effective as a political tool. When he learned that, he chose to demonize innocent people and to promote false conspiracy theories like #PizzaGate, which put lives in jeopardy.

Of course, this only served to further strengthen evangelicals’ belief that he was their savior. What is ironic, but not entirely unexpected, is the fact that Trump’s behavior and positions are far more un-Christ-like than those of the average politician on either side of the aisle. The infidelities, the lack of compassion for the less fortunate, the lewd comments, the lying—these acts could be considered ungodly. But because some of his supporters believe he was an answer to their prayers, they are willing to excuse it.

When you believe that someone is truly a godsend, you can excuse anything. It all becomes “for the greater good.” And when that happens, it is a slippery slope to gross abuses of power that continuously increase in magnitude.
The Belief That Trump Is a Messiah Is Rampant and Dangerous

Shiloh Raven · Aug 5, 2019

tulc said:
America however, not so much...
tulc(sorry, but if kcnalp is going to tee up the ball it would be rude not to hit it)

If Donald Trump is now the representation of the Christian faith in America to the rest of the world, then America is much better off being non-religious because he is the epitome of moral depravity.

kcnalp · Aug 5, 2019

tulc said:
America however, not so much...
tulc(sorry, but if kcnalp is going to tee up the ball it would be rude not to hit it)

The Bible is about Israel. Maybe God will keep America around to keep blessing Israel. Hopefully.

tulc · Aug 5, 2019

kcnalp said:
The Bible is about Israel. (snip)

Some of it is. On the other hand, the President of the US is supposed to be about, you know, the USA not Israel. :sorry:

tulc(just a thought) :wave:

jgarden · Aug 6, 2019

Mayor promises ICE raids 'will be met with fierce resistance from Chicagoans'

What responsible President would provide advanced notice of the time and the place for future ICE raids - undermining the surprise element and placing federal those agents at additional risk?

It would appear that "The Donald" is doing everything in his power to orchestrate "an incident" - jeopardizing the safety of his ICE agents to reinforce his political agenda!

kcnalp · Aug 6, 2019

tulc said:
Some of it is. On the other hand, the President of the US is supposed to be about, you know, the USA not Israel.
tulc(just a thought)

But God doesn't have to ask anyone's permission about anything. He just does it. Yes, the Bible is about Israel, where Jesus will return.

tulc · Aug 6, 2019

kcnalp said:
But God doesn't have to ask anyone's permission about anything.

Never said He did.

He just does it.

True. But I might also point out: none of that makes anything i said any less true or less accurate. :wave:

Yes, the Bible is about Israel, where Jesus will return.

Perhaps, none of which has anything to do with this thread. If you'd like discuss the Bible, Israel or His return you should start a thread about those in another thread. This thread isn't about any of those subjects.

tulc(is going to need to get more coffee)

Gigimo · Aug 6, 2019

The Barbarian said:
You mentioned the false messiah, not me.

I just love laughing at folks who spin ^_^

You're still voting I assume?

The Barbarian · Aug 6, 2019

Barbarian observes:
You mentioned the false messiah, not me.

Gigimo said:
I just love laughing at folks who spin

You seem pretty unhappy that I called out your spin. It remarkable how you people try to make a moral cesspool like Trump into a messiah:

You're still voting I assume?

What concerns Americans is that people promoting fantasies like the above, are voting. It would be funny if you guys didn't actually believe it.

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