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miggles · Nov 9, 2018

is it true the church has thrown out all the hymnals?

wonderkins · Nov 9, 2018

Some have

rockytopva · Nov 9, 2018

Churches these days can be classified as two....

1. Contemporary
2. Traditional

Most contemporary churches have replaced the old hymnal.

But... Some churches have two services! A traditional and a contemporary!

bekkilyn · Nov 9, 2018

And some churches have so many different hymnals that they're stacked at the ends of the pews.

rockytopva · Nov 9, 2018

bekkilyn said:
And some churches have so many different hymnals that they're stacked at the ends of the pews.

Here in our church you will see two hymnals and a modern day collection of music in a folder. Probably a thousand songs in all in which we may use 10-20 out of each assemble.

bekkilyn · Nov 9, 2018

rockytopva said:
Here in our church you will see two hymnals and a modern day collection of music in a folder. Probably a thousand songs in all in which we may use 10-20 out of each assemble.

I'm thinking we might need to make up a folder or a booklet with some additional music, such as in your example above, that is not included in the hymnals. Currently, whenever something isn't in one of the hymnals, we add an insert into the bulletin, but something more "permanent" might be a better longer-term goal.

Dave-W · Nov 10, 2018

bekkilyn said:
And some churches have so many different hymnals that they're stacked at the ends of the pews.

The congregation I attended in 1964 had 3; a hard back Methodist hymnal, and 2 different paperback hymnals. But many of the songs they sung were not found in any of them.

Dave-W · Nov 10, 2018

bekkilyn said:
Currently, whenever something isn't in one of the hymnals, we add an insert into the bulletin, but something more "permanent" might be a better longer-term goal.

CCLI can handle the bulletin inserts quite nicely. But you should contact them if you would be printing up your own booklets for permanent use.

Dave-W · Nov 10, 2018

rockytopva said:
Churches these days can be classified as two....

1. Contemporary
2. Traditional

I am familiar with many that blend the 2.

And I am not sure if our Messianc groups would fit into either of those camps at all.

bekkilyn · Nov 10, 2018

Dave-W said:
CCLI can handle the bulletin inserts quite nicely. But you should contact them if you would be printing up your own booklets for permanent use.

What is CCLI?

Dave-W · Nov 10, 2018

bekkilyn said:
What is CCLI?

A copyright compliance company for churches.

CCLI — Christian Copyright Licensing International

caspianrex · Mar 27, 2019

I am Director of Music Ministries at a medium-sized Methodist church in TN. We still have plenty of hymnals in the sanctuary, as well as The Faith We Sing supplement. However, we also have song screens (which were installed before my time). So my guess is that only about a dozen or so people use the hymnals in any given service. Still, we have a Hymn Sing from time to time, to encourage use of the hymnal. And we've just been doing a sermon series called "Behind the Music," in which I've given background on the hymns we're covering, as well as info on hymnody and the hymnal in general, and then the pastor gives a sermon connecting the hymn text to a scripture passage. So I think that is giving a few of our people a new appreciation for the hymnal.

bekkilyn · Mar 27, 2019

caspianrex said:
I am Director of Music Ministries at a medium-sized Methodist church in TN. We still have plenty of hymnals in the sanctuary, as well as The Faith We Sing supplement. However, we also have song screens (which were installed before my time). So my guess is that only about a dozen or so people use the hymnals in any given service. Still, we have a Hymn Sing from time to time, to encourage use of the hymnal. And we've just been doing a sermon series called "Behind the Music," in which I've given background on the hymns we're covering, as well as info on hymnody and the hymnal in general, and then the pastor gives a sermon connecting the hymn text to a scripture passage. So I think that is giving a few of our people a new appreciation for the hymnal.

Do you have any references that you particularly like for the background of the hymns? I've been thinking of doing some similar things in the future.

caspianrex · Mar 27, 2019

There's a series of books by Robert J. Morgan, called Then Sings My Soul. (I think it's three volumes now.) We've used that a lot.
Also, for the United Methodist Hymnal of 1989, there's the excellent Companion to the United Methodist Hymnal by Carlton Young. That's an indispensable resource for the UMH hymnal.

bekkilyn · Mar 27, 2019

caspianrex said:
There's a series of books by Robert J. Morgan, called Then Sings My Soul. (I think it's three volumes now.) We've used that a lot.
Also, for the United Methodist Hymnal of 1989, there's the excellent Companion to the United Methodist Hymnal by Carlton Young. That's an indispensable resource for the UMH hymnal.

Thank you!

JCFantasy23 · Apr 18, 2019

We still have the hardback hymnals in our pews.

Rawtheran · Apr 27, 2019

miggles said:
is it true the church has thrown out all the hymnals?

In the UMC churches that I've attended I've never seen any of them throw out the hymnal per se. To me the churches tend to either have two services with one being contemporary and the other traditional, a completely traditional service with hymns on a screen, and a blended service that still keeps the UMC Liturgy but adds some contemporary elements to it. While I do not think that the UMC will ever get rid of the hymnal I do see the denomination in 10-20 years becoming a lot like the Methodist Church of Great Britain which tends to be less liturgical and more spirit lead or have services that you'd see in a Pentecostal/Charismatic church.

bekkilyn · Apr 27, 2019

I'd personally be fine with less liturgy and more Spirit.

Dave-W · Apr 28, 2019

bekkilyn said:
I'd personally be fine with less liturgy and more Spirit.

Those 2 are not necessarily in conflict with each other.

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