The old pagan pantheons on the rise?

They are on the rise for three reasons:

1. Man is an essentially religious being and he will always express himself religiously, even when he rejects the true God.
2. The old pagan gods have a heritage that could be respected and are not new inventions. No one would take a new god seriously.
3. The old pagan gods let you have sex and get drunk.

xpower said:

My question is why?

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As noted in previous post.
Also, simple: mankind is evil.

Tree of Life said:

They are on the rise for three reasons:

1. Man is an essentially religious being and he will always express himself religiously, even when he rejects the true God.
2. The old pagan gods have a heritage that could be respected and are not new inventions. No one would take a new god seriously.
3. The old pagan gods let you have sex and get drunk.

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I'd add that the pagan gods 'coming into existence' and their creation stories are materialistically based. There is no uncreated Creator outside of time, space, matter. The matter at least is always there and where the gods come from.

@mark kennedy did some research on this in another thread. I shall summon him.

xpower said:

Belief in the old pagan pantheons and religions is on the rise in europe(and some places in the americas)

My question is why? In my opinion, they are less compatible with science(for all the complaints Christianity gets about science) and its not like the old gods are very caring or nice.

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They have always been worshipped by people: knowingly or unknowingly. They are only old, and "new" because people believe what they are told by those who they see as authority.

Does anyone in "authority" give credence to "old" gods? I know the US government releases declassified info on these entities, but I get the feeling people don't read those documents, or they still cannot cine to grips with it.

As far as academia goes, it predicts nothing outside the scope of what can be observed. That means if you are blind with 20/20 eyesight, your idea of "nature" is heavily restricted.

Paganism seems very different from Christianity in the sense that it's much more flexible.. it's less about order, and leaves a lot more to mystery. Like their stories can be read very symbolically. I would bet there's a much wider variety in one pagan religion than there is in Christianity. It was popular in the old days for a reason.

And the people would prefer apathetic Gods over a loving God because they can't accept the fact that the pain of their lives can lead to good learning. They think the gods must have flaws.

Kaon said:

Does anyone in "authority" give credence to "old" gods?

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Yes, but that can only be discussed in a few places on this forum, if any. Not everything can be posted out in the open just anyplace.

yeshuaslavejeff said:

Yes, but that can only be discussed in a few places on this forum, if any. Not everything can be posted out in the open just anyplace.

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Which means one should question their "authority" if some of the details of the operation and ideologies/beliefs are occult in nature. The Most High God isnt "occult"; the Truth has its own natural qualifier that, by consequence, keeps the blind blind, and allows those who have eyes to see to see.

Cinema also promotes paganism with these super hero movies, especially the Norse god pantheon.

xpower said:

Belief in the old pagan pantheons and religions is on the rise in europe(and some places in the americas)

My question is why? In my opinion, they are less compatible with science(for all the complaints Christianity gets about science) and its not like the old gods are very caring or nice.

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2Th 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way.

I don't want to say that I am a "student" of modern society, but rather an "observer". In my wanderings amongst the history of the Church I've stumbled across a litany of practices of the ancient Romans, and others, that were eventually abolished by Christianity. Many of those practices have in recent times returned and are recognized and even promulgated by society. Abortion and homosexuality are two that come to mind, along with the worship of the ancient gods.

I cannot help but see in that the re-building of all those ancient practices as the Church loses its influence on the world. Sometimes I almost feel like I can predict when "the end will come" even though I never attempt to make such predictions.

All of those things are not new, they are very old. And it seems that that which has restrained it through the history of the Church is in fact being taken out of the way.

Power is shifting between them.

Many bad influences, ancient and modern, are by the enemy through the worldly church (-es)/ religion.

The power there has been beyond imagination,
though not only there.

The whole world is deceived already, for a long long time now.

Anyone have any evidence to support the OPs claims?

A simple example.

There are two forces at work in this world the light and the dark. Satan and Christ. Those who adhere to God and those who deny him.

Consider Joshua 24 and the gods before the flood. The gods are mentioned in Joshua 24 and specifically called the Canniness. The Phonetician Canaanite symbolism is everywhere around us. Satan’s goal is to create a one world government, one world currency, and one race. Lets take a look at the back of a dollar bill. Take a look at the eagle. Is it really a eagle or is it a picture of the Phonetician Canaanite phoenix? Take a close look at the ribbon and it’s wording. E pluribus unum or translated out of many, one. This sounds a lot like the goal of a single race. Also, consider the mixing of many races to make a single “ONE” race. Lets say I was on the side that was trying to stop the mixing. What would be an effective means to slow the blending of race and cultures (particularly from South America and America). Build a wall of course.

Now lets switch to the light. The God of Israel. Lets look on the other side of the dollar and we see Latin again that says Annuit cœptis and is translated God has favored our undertakings.

Now we can see from the center of the bill that the “ONE” corresponds to out of many, one while In God we trust corresponds to God has favored our undertakings.

You will never find In God we trust on the side of any coin with the eagle on it.

This goes on and on. Here more food for thought, two gods (one on onside of the bill and one on the other), every person can trust only “ONE”

You get it.

The interesting point to make is that ‘ONE’ on the back of the dollar bill has nothing to do with the value of the currency. It was to do with deity that resides behind that phoenix. This in itself tells you information present by things in high places is misleading and hidden symbolism behind these gods is real.

I will say this. The ones who don’t adhere to the God of Israel are about to be devastated. Ask your self, where do most of them reside? That is, those who stand behind the liberal mindset. The progressives, extreme liberal etc. In the cities of course. What about the opposite side of the spectrum. They are really more rural and are farmers.

Now assume a banking collapse and hyperinflation. Assume they supply chain collapsed because the money supply collapsed. How would this bode for those in the cities. Most would end up destroying themselves. What about those in the rural areas and farmers. They stand to do much better. What would be the prevailing ideology?

If it was me I would be getting out of the cities and not look back. When these kind of things happen we all know what happens when you look back.

Seriously. Watch and see how this goes in the next few months. Its not going to be pretty.

The power will shift from those who worship the Canaanite gods back to those who worship the God of Israel.

Just my thoughts based on what I've seen online.

I don't think the old pantheons are on the rise as it has become inconceivable to actually believe in the old gods as literally described. I would only begin to be concerned if these so called pagans actually began regularly sacrificing to the gods, dedicating their meat to the gods and actually doing the things pagans of antiquity were known to do. I think there would be more merit and sincerity to that sort of Pagan revival than what I think is going on now.

Sort of like how some cling to a metaphorical Christianity, the Jordan Peterson view, I think there is an emergence of a metaphorical paganism as a new identity for cultures people perceive to be on the decline. They want a return to meaningful tradition. This paganism has been shaped not by ancient pagan culture or values but by Christian values which have permanently affixed itself to European culture (even if that culture has taken the Christian virtues and run awry with them) and will inevitably infect any type of modern pagan emergence.

Pagan priests today seem to assume the duties and tasks which ancient pagans never expected their priests to do. Be that the officiates of marriage, the performance of ritualistic liturgies or other elements. Ancient pagan priests sacrificed animals and parts of their harvest to the gods whereas modern pagans don't seem to do the latter (it could exist but it seems rare). This seems to me to indicate an actual belief by the ancient pagans that their gods were worth the pain of animal to be kept in good terms, whereas modern pagans perhaps don't want to embrace that wrathful element of the gods the Emperors of Rome and the populace took very seriously.

Bottom-line, we're not getting the old gods, we're getting Christianized versions of the old gods.

From my own personal experience, the people I know who dabble or are involved in pagan religions do it for the "power". They don't like being "told what to do" and want to be free to do anything they like. So, they reject Christianity. Yet, they want a religion and they embrace paganism or witchcraft.

xpower said:

Belief in the old pagan pantheons and religions is on the rise in europe(and some places in the americas)

My question is why? In my opinion, they are less compatible with science(for all the complaints Christianity gets about science) and its not like the old gods are very caring or nice.

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I'm sure TV, movies, comics, video games, etc don't help.