Could 2017 - 2021 be four years of Grace for the church?

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Could the four years of the Trump Presidency be a last ditch time for the church to get her act in order and really learn to intercede for world leaders...... and the lost..... and for pastors that we disagree with?

"The Lord spoke to me about this nation.
What you need is not a revival, what you need is to put your house in order.
That's what you need to do. When President Trump, or when Mr. Donald Trump was
elected the President of the US, the Lord spoke and said his election is a sign that
he's giving you four years of grace. Last chance Grace. Four years to put your house
in order. Four years to get your act right. Four years to put your life right. Four years to
restore all things back together in its right place. Four years to get rid of all the leaven from your mis.
Four years for the Bride to get ready. You have four good years.
If you make good of these four years then you will have many more good years to come. If you fail
in putting your house in order in these four years ... then.... great tribulation and great captivity will come."
......
I saw the Lord Jesus in the heavens and he told me.... Tell these people to pray for their President
very much..... because there is a danger for his life and for his presidency. If he fails to complete his term.
You see... heaven has determined four good years for the US. Four... further... instead of good is four years of grace has been apportioned for you. If he does not complete his term .... that means.... that the time of grace is aborted. If the time of grace is aborted you go into your captivity. And when you go into captivity .... or when his presidency is aborted ... the church in the US will be held accountable before God. God will hold you accountable for all the mess that will come upon this nation as the result of the abortion. You don't want that do you?" (Sadhu Sundar Selvaraj)


I sure am glad that Mr. Trump.... in spite of his many, many flaws....... is President instead of his opponent in 2016!
 

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Could the four years of the Trump Presidency be a last ditch time for the church to get her act in order and really learn to intercede for world leaders...... and the lost..... and for pastors that we disagree with?


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I sure am glad that Mr. Trump.... in spite of his many, many flaws....... is President instead of his opponent in 2016!
I really don't see how Donald Trump has anything to do with the Kingdom of God. I know many do, especially those who follow some of these prophetic folks. I just don't see it.
Blessings
 
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Could the four years of the Trump Presidency be a last ditch time for the church to get her act in order and really learn to intercede for world leaders...... and the lost..... and for pastors that we disagree with?


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I sure am glad that Mr. Trump.... in spite of his many, many flaws....... is President instead of his opponent in 2016!

You are aware that he can run for president again after his first term and will almost certainly do so, correct?

I mean, I personally don’t want him to win, but I at least concede that it’s a distinct possibility.
 
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You are aware that he can run for president again after his first term and will almost certainly do so, correct?

I mean, I personally don’t want him to win, but I at least concede that it’s a distinct possibility.

Yes...... but I do think that it is important for us to know that our prayers can alter the future.

The Future and the Near-Death Experience
 
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I really don't see how Donald Trump has anything to do with the Kingdom of God. I know many do, especially those who follow some of these prophetic folks. I just don't see it.
Blessings

One possible way might be for us to come to a better understanding of the term predestination?

Romans 8:29
For whom He foreknew, He also predestined to be conformed to the image of His Son, that He might be the firstborn among many brethren.

Rom 8:30
Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

Ephesians 1:5

having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,

Ephesians 1:11
In Him also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestined according to the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of His will,
 
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I see several problems with the anecdote you linked me to right away, but I won't get into them here. More power to ya, buddy.

Thank you....... I could be wrong but my conclusion after 28 years of studying near death experience accounts and comparing them with scripture is that
Ezekiel 37
rather than being limited to be a one time event may imply non -linear time...... or applied Multiverse Theory...... (applied by G-d that is)!

G-d wants everybody saved......
so.... if a moment in the past is recreated exactly as it was with everybody on earth..... exactly as they were at that moment but.......
if more of the Holy Spirit is poured out in that new time line..... more people can be led to repentance and salvation in that new time line........
but the rewards for overcoming could be lessened.

Multiverse Theory and multiple Ezekiel 37 type events.
 
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Could the four years of the Trump Presidency be a last ditch time for the church to get her act in order and really learn to intercede for world leaders...... and the lost..... and for pastors that we disagree with?
The prophet said nothing about praying for pastors that we don't agree with. He went onto say that the leaven we must get out of our midst is hypocrisy and double standards so that the Lord can come and abide in the church as His temple.
I know we are not to despise prophecy...but to examine it.
For me...hearing Sandhu's word putting all the responsibility and blame upon the people assembled before him to get their house in order and their churches in order is simply religious nonsense.
I heard it for years in Pentecostal services---but it was always without any instructions and always left people condemned and fearful and stressing out about how we can obey such a word.
It leads to trying to change the outward behaviour in order to get God to come in a greater way. When all along GOD IS ALREADY with us.
It is not rooted in new covenant theology but old covenant.
 
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The prophet said nothing about praying for pastors that we don't agree with. He went onto say that the leaven we must get out of our midst is hypocrisy and double standards so that the Lord can come and abide in the church as His temple.
I know we are not to despise prophecy...but to examine it.
For me...hearing Sandhu's word putting all the responsibility and blame upon the people assembled before him to get their house in order and their churches in order is simply religious nonsense.
I heard it for years in Pentecostal services---but it was always without any instructions and always left people condemned and fearful and stressing out about how we can obey such a word.
It leads to trying to change the outward behaviour in order to get God to come in a greater way. When all along GOD IS ALREADY with us.
It is not rooted in new covenant theology but old covenant.

Good points.... but I do believe that our actions and beliefs can play an important role in bringing down...... or stirring up as the case may be...... more and more of the Holy Spirit.


Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?

Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

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Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.




2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.



3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy
 
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yeah Den, that's the freedom we have in this day and age...we can all believe whatever we want to. But that may change soon....since you have posted this on the conspiracy category.
In my opinion..as I am free to believe what I want to...Mr Trump is playing the white hat character very well...or should I say...according to the script given to him.
I wrote about the white hats vs black hats here.
Both democrat and Republican are controlled opposition to each other by higher ups.
The idea is to so polarise the nations over right and wrong that the nations will throw off the whole thing and wallah!! a new age of luciferianism begins.
 
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One possible way might be for us to come to a better understanding of the term predestination?

Romans 8:29

Rom 8:30

Ephesians 1:5



Ephesians 1:11
So Trump is predestined? I believe this only applies to the truly repented.

First and foremost, there will never be peace on earth. Dominion theology is a flesh driven dogma of men. This theology promotes a physical kingdom now on earth. It has grown out of control.Try not to get tangled in them brother. Only those who are in the Body of Christ are predestined to the Glory of the New Jerusalem.
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So Trump is predestined? I believe this only applies to the truly repented.

First and foremost, there will never be peace on earth. Dominion theology is a flesh driven dogma of men. This theology promotes a physical kingdom now on earth. It has grown out of control.Try not to get tangled in them brother. Only those who are in the Body of Christ are predestined to the Glory of the New Jerusalem.
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Former Atheist and near death experiencer Howard Storm Ph. D. was shown peace on earth by the year 2185, (two centuries after his NDE):


Reverend Howard Storm's Near-Death Experience

"The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.



And when a person became an adult, there was no sense of anxiety, nor hatred, nor competition.



There was this enormous sense of trust and mutual respect. If a person, in this view of the future, became disturbed, then the community of people all cared about the disturbed person falling away from the harmony of the group. Spiritually, through prayer and love, the others would elevate the afflicted person.



What people did with the rest of their time was that they gardened, with almost no physical effort. They showed me that plants, with prayer, would produce huge fruits and vegetables.



People, in unison, could control the climate of the planet through prayer. Everybody would work with mutual trust and the people would call the rain, when needed, and the sun to shine.



Animals lived with people, in harmony.

Notice the part that I bolded.... it sure fits with:

Malachi 4
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the great and terrible day of Jehovah come.

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers; lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
 
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First and foremost there will never be peace on earth????
Thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. If there is no peace on earth then there is no peace in heaven.
PS 37:11
But the meek shall inherit the earth and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Psalm 72:7
In His days the righteous shall flourish, and abundance of peace, until the moon is no more.
Psalm 22:27
All the ends of the world shall remember and turn to the LORD, all the families of the nations shall worship before You. 28 For the kingdom is the LORD'S and He rules over the nations.

There most certainly shall be peace on earth my friends. The kingdoms of this world have become the kingdom of our God and we shall reign with Him in His kingdom of peace and love and justice.
 
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Trouble is that Gods victory is hidden from the vast majority of believers who only see "dying and going to heaven ".
The victory of God is through the RESSURECTION....which is the only hope of the church. Not rapture away to heaven!
All the saints in heaven are waiting to return to earth!
Earth shall see HIS glory covering her like the waters cover the sea.
He swore to do it.
 
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Could the four years of the Trump Presidency be a last ditch time for the church to get her act in order and really learn to intercede for world leaders...... and the lost..... and for pastors that we disagree with?


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I sure am glad that Mr. Trump.... in spite of his many, many flaws....... is President instead of his opponent in 2016!
Could be.

In fact, if you listen to Kim Clements, a now passed, prophet, he predicted, back in 2005 that Trump would become president.. and that he would be in power for, not 4, but 7 or 8 years. Hey predicted that Trump would be like Joseph.... 7 years of plenty, under Trump and then the bad news.

He also predicted that Trump would be a praying President. Not at first, so much, but definitely progressively increasing.
 
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So Trump is predestined? I believe this only applies to the truly repented.

First and foremost, there will never be peace on earth. Dominion theology is a flesh driven dogma of men. This theology promotes a physical kingdom now on earth. It has grown out of control.Try not to get tangled in them brother. Only those who are in the Body of Christ are predestined to the Glory of the New Jerusalem.
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God, has, all through history, place people in power, in certain places and times, such that His will can be fulfilled.

Sometimes even defeating His people and moving them to exile.. but.. in the end.. His will be done.

If Trump is not "repented" enough... how on this vast green and blue planet would Hillary even been close?

Many Christians don't support Trump... I get it... he is a buffoon and very wealthy.. entitled and has no filter on his mouth. He has behaved badly in the past and, even now, does things that make you take a second glance.

However, if you are Christian.. you can thank God that His hand was in this election and the puppet, Hillary, did not get into office. If she did.. the people who control her had an agenda.... everything from partial birth abortions and .... in the end.... Christianity would never have been the same.
 
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Could be.

In fact, if you listen to Kim Clements, a now passed, prophet, he predicted, back in 2005 that Trump would become president.. and that he would be in power for, not 4, but 7 or 8 years. Hey predicted that Trump would be like Joseph.... 7 years of plenty, under Trump and then the bad news.

He also predicted that Trump would be a praying President. Not at first, so much, but definitely progressively increasing.

Wow!

Yes... I heard that video several times..... it is pretty amazing!

Do you..... like me..... even suspect that he may have the courage to be involved in:


Is a Jerusalem Third Temple needed before Zechariah 14 can happen?
 
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Wow!

Yes... I heard that video several times..... it is pretty amazing!

Do you..... like me..... even suspect that he may have the courage to be involved in:


Is a Jerusalem Third Temple needed before Zechariah 14 can happen?
Whether Mr. Trump is aware of it or not, he is the hand of God right now. He has moved the embassy of the US to Jerusalem... this is HUGE. Past presidents have talked about it... promised to do it (but been too cowardly to do it) or even used it to keep relations with Israel well.
This move is a pivotal move in, first, showing that the US is backing Israel as a state and the rightful owner of the land, including Jerusalem. And secondly, giving Israel the support and power to proceed with confirmation that Jerusalem is it's capitol.

This, IMO, moves the pieces on the chess board very close to the building of the third temple.

It will not be on the temple mount. This is where the Muslims have constructed the "Dome on the Rock". However, their research was wrong. The temple will be built south of this site, in the "City of David" part of Jerusalem. There are all kinds of new information being found in recent digs in this area that put the "wailing wall" out of the picture as far as being part of the old temples. Nothing of the old temples exist.

Anyway... Trump, consciously or not, has been God's hand in this move.

Not to mention Mr. Pense as his vice.. a strong Christian.

People need to stop listening to the negative things that the media are spewing about Trump. As Christians we should have our eyes open and gaze at the subtle, yet important things that Trump is doing for his country.

The US needs to see that Trump is a tool that is being used by God... as time progresses, the media will grow louder, but it is only a clanging gong attempting to hide the works that God is doing in your nation.

I say this as a Canadian.. Look at the new North America Trade deal... You guys won and won big. Trump put our mealy mouthed, juvenile, entitled little brat of a Prime Minister in his place. Justin fired off his inexperienced arrogant mouth and Trump made him pay...

Good for you... as Trump should do... bad for us.... because we have not got a Prime minister with our country's best interest in mind. Your POTUS is working to make the US great. Don't miss the truth.
 
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