Jesse Duplantis 4 types of giving

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If anyone has heard this teaching on youtube, can you clarify them as you practice them? Like the tithe, firstfruits, alms (that's kind of easy) and seed. I thought seed and tithe were the same?

"Seed" if i remember right, was the dedication of the firstborn child to God. The firstborn stood in the place of a sacrifice but was required to be redeemed.
 
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"Seed" if i remember right, was the dedication of the firstborn child to God. The firstborn stood in the place of a sacrifice but was required to be redeemed.
can you use examples of this? tithe is church I think, alms is giving wherever you see the need and you are moved by compassion, seed the motivation is faith and reward, tithe is obedience
 
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can you use examples of this? tithe is church I think, alms is giving wherever you see the need and you are moved by compassion, seed the motivation is faith and reward, tithe is obedience

Exo 13:13 - And every firstling of an ass thou shalt redeem with a lamb; and if thou wilt not redeem it, then thou shalt break his neck: and all the firstborn of man among thy children shalt thou redeem.
 
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I would be careful of whomever you speak evil against.

Psalm 105: 13. When they went from one nation to another, from one kingdom to another people; 14. He suffered no man to do them wrong: yea, he reproved kings for their sakes; 15. Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.

But whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven, but is guilty of an eternal sin. He said this because they [the Pharisees] were saying, 'He has an evil spirit'."


Romans 2: 1. Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things. 2. But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things. 3. And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God? 4. Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance? 5. But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; 6. Who will render to every man according to his deeds: 7. To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life: 8. But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath, 9. Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile; 10. But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile: 11. For there is no respect of persons with God.
 
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If anyone has heard this teaching on youtube, can you clarify them as you practice them? Like the tithe, firstfruits, alms (that's kind of easy) and seed. I thought seed and tithe were the same?

Generally speaking your seed is to sow into the growth of the Gospel.

Ministries ,Out reach programs ,youth ,Evangelism or other worthy causes out from your own Church.
You can support missions in your Church that is seed expecting a harvest.

Corinthians 9:6; "The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully."


4. Proverbs 11:18; "A wicked person earns deceptive wages,but the one who sows righteousness reaps a sure reward."


5. Proverbs 14:14; "The faithless will be fully repaid for their ways, and the good rewarded for theirs."

1 Corinthians 3: 6. I have planted, Apollos watered; but God gave the increase. 7. So then neither is he that planteth any thing, neither he that watereth; but God that giveth the increase. 8. Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. 9. For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building.

Hope this helps
 
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There is division among believers on titheing .
Some say it is not a command and part of the law, others say it has been before the law of Moses and is God's imutable law.
Jacob vowed one tenth of his first fruits at Bethel ,before the law
Abraham paid tithe to Mekelisedeck you can find this in the New Testament in Hebrews,( spelled much better)
The Widows last mite was in the temple when Christ observed who gave more New Testament.
Paul gave instructions on protocol for taking up the offering for the saints.
Over all those who minister to the Temple live from the Temple.
Without giving tithe your Church would close.
Why a tenth ?
Since everything we have or will have is given by God I do not find that unreasonable.
But for another reason, if there was no certain amount your Church would not know how to manage day to day cost.
People would feel warm and fuzzy about giving a dollar.
I have taken up offerings, and trust me there are a lot of one dollar bills in the plate.
God called it robbery in the book of Malachi.

Malachi 3: 6. For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed. 7. Even from the days of your fathers ye are gone away from mine ordinances, and have not kept them. Return unto me, and I will return unto you, saith the LORD of hosts. But ye said, Wherein shall we return? 8. Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings.

The reason why I believe this supersedes the Law of Moses,
The statement for I AM the Lord I change not.
Giving conserideration that the tithes were given before the Law.
Some believe that way back they gave sheep and food etc.
They had a monatary system in the days of Abraham of Gold as well.
Besides it's based on your income ,who does not sell their livestock or harvest if they are farmers?
Hope this helps
 
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If anyone has heard this teaching on youtube, can you clarify them as you practice them? Like the tithe, firstfruits, alms (that's kind of easy) and seed. I thought seed and tithe were the same?
Any teaching which denies the works of Jesus as the sole and only basis for God to prosper us is not from God.
 
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Any teaching which denies the works of Jesus as the sole and only basis for God to prosper us is not from God.

It is the teaching of Jesus through the Word of God that gives us instructions on how to abide in His Will.

It is through the guidence of the Holy Spirit that is made manifest in our lives, for us to be called to greater works.

During His ministry our Lord did many great works.
His commission was to redeem mankind ,and reconcile God and man.
We believe on Jesus Christ, the works that he did in His ministry we shall do also.
The basis of our works , is in having Faith in Christ to empower our ability to do so.

Not that each work is done by Christ for us.
If this was so God would not recieve our Faith or account our Faith to His Glory.

John 14: 11. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. 12. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. 15. If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
 
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It is the teaching of Jesus through the Word of God that gives us instructions on how to abide in His Will.

It is through the guidence of the Holy Spirit that is made manifest in our lives, for us to be called to greater works.

During His ministry our Lord did many great works.
His commission was to redeem mankind ,and reconcile God and man.
We believe on Jesus Christ, the works that he did in His ministry we shall do also.
The basis of our works , is in having Faith in Christ to empower our ability to do so.

Not that each work is done by Christ for us.
If this was so God would not recieve our Faith or account our Faith to His Glory.

John 14: 11. Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake. 12. Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father. 13. And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it. 15. If ye love me, keep my commandments. 16. And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

Do you mean to say tithes rather than the blood of Christ is the seed for greater financial returns from God?
 
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Do you mean to say tithes rather than the blood of Christ is the seed for greater financial returns from God?

Did you read the schripture I posted?
It's not what I say on any topic ,it is how a individual percieves Gods Word.
I must ask , your signature states you are in India.
There may be a cultural misunderstanding of God's Word due to translation.
 
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Did you read the schripture I posted?
It's not what I say on any topic ,it is how a individual percieves Gods Word.
I must ask , your signature states you are in India.
There may be a cultural misunderstanding of God's Word due to translation.

Do you some kind of special license to a correct understanding of God's word?

What is the misunderstanding you are referring to?
 
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True WOF teaching doesn't mention anyone's region fictitiously let alone discriminate anyone based on regions they come from.

True WOF glorifies God and His word.

True WOF teachings never claims anyone to be a custodian of WOF teachings but rather addresses the topic with scriptural warrant.

According to true WOF teaching, tithing and witnessing is done to remember the blood of Jesus as the only seed for church growth and financial returns.
 
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Ohhh I was going to post but I JUST now after going back a few times lol see SOMETHING is missing..

Blood of Jesus.. Father I am so sorry..forgive us..for being so divided and not putting you your word 1st.. but we put our personal beliefs 1st. Jesus ..know Him as lord? Your family.. period.
 
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If anyone has heard this teaching on youtube, can you clarify them as you practice them? Like the tithe, firstfruits, alms (that's kind of easy) and seed. I thought seed and tithe were the same?
Can I know which youtube teaching you are referring to?
 
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If anyone has heard this teaching on youtube, can you clarify them as you practice them? Like the tithe, firstfruits, alms (that's kind of easy) and seed. I thought seed and tithe were the same?


Our daughter got my wife and I to watch several of his videos a year or so ago. He truly is funny!

He might just have some fun with this idea if he eventually sees it?

I think i may be in the process of being given something of a spiritual gift????


This morning for hour after hour I was hit very powerfully with the idea that Dr. Kevin Zadai has some sort of "Solomon" calling or mantle or destiny on his life?????

That led to my thinking that Evangelist Jesse DuPlantis, (pardon my spelling)..... has some sort of King DAvid calling on his life........
due to his having been shown somehow that Dr. Kevin Zadai was his spiritual son????

The possible implications of this at this time are huge......... and I am wondering if there is anybody here who has been hit with a similar impression regarding these two rather famous Christian leaders????
 
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