Trump Gives White Terrorists A Pass

Albion said:

No. He didn't do that either. Do you want to try again?

On second thought, don't bother. Anyone can consult the record, the facts, the actual statement, and see that he condemned the violent ones on both sides and said, also, that there were also people present (because this was a well-publicized gathering dealing with an issue of widespread concern by people of all political inclinations) who were not in either group and were not violent,

They were simply there, interested either in saving the monuments or showing by their presence support for removing them and in opposing those who held the other view of the matter.

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Of course Trump called some of the Nazis and KKK "very fine people".

It was obvious who he was referring to. That is why so many on councils and committees resigned. They stated this.

Of course, some Trump supporters will deny this, but it is a fact. I provided the links. You should read them. It would help clear up your confusion.

Yonny Costopoulis said:

Of course Trump called some of the Nazis and KKK "very fine people"..

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Don't start again. You've already stated your proposition several times and it's been refuted several times as well.

Albion said:

Don't start again.

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Don't state fact that Trump called some Nazis and KKK "very fine people"? Why not? Is it bad to state facts?

I believe this says much about Trump's character.

essentialsaltes said:

Just an update on this case.

Conservative jurors sought by men charged in Kansas mosque bombing plot

"The defense motion says that the political ideologies of liberal and conservative voters tend to tend to differ “regarding the appropriate size and power of the federal government and the individual rights of its citizens...”"

... to blow up a building with people inside?

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And an update to the update.

Attorneys representing a Kansas man convicted of a 2016 plot to massacre Somali Muslim refugees by bombing a mosque and apartment complex in Garden City, Kan., have asked a federal judge to consider a more lenient sentence, arguing that President Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric should be taken into account as the “backdrop” for the case.

Lawyers gonna lawyer, but still.

essentialsaltes said:

And an update to the update.

Attorneys representing a Kansas man convicted of a 2016 plot to massacre Somali Muslim refugees by bombing a mosque and apartment complex in Garden City, Kan., have asked a federal judge to consider a more lenient sentence, arguing that President Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric should be taken into account as the “backdrop” for the case.

Lawyers gonna lawyer, but still.

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Smh. This should be a thread of its own.

Armoured said:

But the're not white terrorists, which makes the Muslims responsible for all terrorism. Be afraid!

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The point with the concern, concerning Islamic extremism was that Muslims form only 2% (just over) of the population.

With 2% of the population you would then expect 2% of the crime in any given area, whether murder or theft etc. Crime should be proportional to population size.

So in a nation with 70% whites you'd expect the largest proportion of any area of crime to come from this group, since they account for 70% of the population. So, just like above you would expect 70% of all murder, theft, rape incidents etc. to come from this group.

Seeing population size and crime can also help you address issues in certain communities: for instance if a group garnering 17% of the total population is responsible for 50% of all theft, burglary etc. and 70% of all welfare subsidies (just random numbers here) then we could address this community with more education opportunities, a higher quality of education, and assistance with employment etc. so knowing various demographics and their statistics is a helpful tool..

I once went back and counted all terror attacks listed by government agencies from the 1980's to a few years ago and categorized them according to demographic and found that terror attacks from the larger Muslim community (perpetrated by Muslims or those from Muslim majority nations originally) constituted over 35% of all attacks. (If memory serves me correctly but even if you give me a large margin of error, its still serious)

That, from a group that consists of only 2% of the population is concerning.. as it's extremely disproportionate to population size..

This screams there is a problem within this community. And, as the population size increases if terror attacks from this demographic stay at these disproportionate numbers we WILL have a serious problem and by then it may be too late to solve it.

So in short, no, so long as right wing political terror attacks happen in accordance with population size (or lower) it's not as concerning because there is always going to be, within any demographic, a percentage of the population which is mentally unstable.

I have been happy to see the decrease in terror attacks by Muslims, however. hopefully we can keep this up for the next few decades.


*** I no longer, that I know of, have my work on that research as I was on a different computer back then and likely didn't save it and if I did I don't imagine I know where. I did that research years ago and I'm sorry for that. But anyone looking into it will find the same - just a little leg work.