Death Threats, Assaults, Vandalism: over 40 Acts of Left-Wing Thuggery in October, So Far…

Colter said:

You made my point, the article I posted isn't comparing and contrasting bombs, murder and attacks on Republicans. Its >you< who herd something that wasn't said.

The attacks on Republicans, like congressmen getting shot at morning softball practice, have been going on since Trump was elected. Maybe you wouldn't mind having your tires slashed or harassed at the mall, others do.

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I hope that anybody who breaks the law is arrested and prosecuted.

SilverBear said:

is this supposed to make us all forget about the mail bombs and Pittsburgh and all the death threats Christine Ford received?

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I think it's truly laughable when these right wing conservative evangelicals attempt to take the moral high road when it comes to violence being committed in the name of politics in this country.

Does "Knock the crap out of them and I'll pay your legal fees!" ring a bell? How about "I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters"? It was Trump who suggested the 'Second Amendment' people could act against Hillary Clinton if she got elected.

As I've said numerous times on this site... The right wing and the left wing are both part of the same bird and they are both foul. Both parties are guilty of committing violence and inciting violence.

What can we honestly expect from either one of these political parties considering the final nominee they each chose to represent themselves during the last presidential election? Both of these political parties are morally corrupt as demonstrated in the final nominees they chose. Both of these parties are hungry and greedy for political power and each party would do anything to keep ahold of that political power and influence. Violence, threats, blackmail... whatever it takes. The political system in America is in dire need of a severe overhaul from the inside out. The truth is, both the Republican Party and the Democratic Party are politically corrupt and neither party honestly has the moral leg to stand on to complain and whine about the other. We only have to look at Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump to see that both parties don't give a rip about the moral character of the president. If the majority of the conservative Christian Right truly cared about Christian morality and traditional family values, then the Republican Party never would have chosen Donald Trump in the first place.

Colter said:

Exactly! Enslavement of the worker, to the parasitical state who in turn feeds the improvident, who vote to keep the statist in power! Worse than "owning the means of production" the state owns the economically enslaved workers! No thanks buddy but we've always known the truth behind the Liberalism.

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I disagree. I view a few things as things the free market has failed at doing. Pretty much everything else it is good at. Healthcare, for example, is a terrible thing for the free market to dictate. Most bankruptcies in this country are due to medical debt and it's difficult not to rack up medical debt when you get ill. If your child or wife were sick, wouldn't you go deep into debt to save them?

I see college as an investment in our future. The same as the way we invest in education through high school, we invest in people getting a higher education so long as they maintain good grades.

I have 40k in student debt, but I have a good job in the defense industry. Even people who have the same degree I have do not have that job. It would be better for people to not come out of college with that much debt.

Colter said:

* Healthcare in America is NOT a free market system, it's heavily regulated. Government brakes things and then says "well gosh, guess we need to take that over a fix it!" The ACA wasn't intended to work, they knew it was an intermediate step.

* A government that cant manage itself wont be able to manage your healthcare.

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It still relies on private insurance companies that get to make a lot of decisions about health that involve zero doctors. The fact that it took us as long as it did to stop pre-existing condition nonsense shows just how stupid the system is setup.

Do you have any counter to the fact that medical bills are the number one cause of bankruptcy? Most families in the US are one major illness away from being destitute. Is this just something we have to live with or can we do better?

* 3,000,000+ young people quit our free schools each year. I'm not feeding them!

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Ok? Nobody is asking you to feed people who drop out of school. This doesn't seem to relate at all to what I said.

Colter said:

Don't like the message shoot the messenger.

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The messenger made the message up.

That's why the Left is so misinformed, they only go to sources that buttress their worldview.

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You have absolutely no idea what sources I go to for any of my world view.

The media in America IS the (D) party. Sometimes they create news and report on it.

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The irony of you making stuff up about other people making stuff up is completely lost on you, isn't it.

Colter said:

Yes, but they so desperately want Trump to be a Nazi. They deliberately misunderstand his positions.

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I think he's willing to play a Nazi on TV if it gets him the ratings and the donations. I doubt he has any real convictions other than "What's in it for Donald?"

Colter said:

You made my point, the article I posted isn't comparing and contrasting bombs, murder and attacks on Republicans.

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Well now, a lot of folks don't bother reading the entirely of an article, but did you at least read the title? I read both & responded accordingly, Colter. Sorry if you didn't get that point.

Its >you< who herd something that wasn't said.

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Herd? Do you mean heard?

You're proving a theory I have about Trump apologists.

The attacks on Republicans, like congressmen getting shot at morning softball practice, have been going on since Trump was elected.

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Attacks on all politicians have been going on since well before Trump was elected. Trump is unique in that he takes obvious glee in pouring gasoline all over it. Calling journalists the enemy of the people when they've been the victims of bomb threats.

Maybe you wouldn't mind having your tires slashed or harassed at the mall, others do.

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Sure I'd mind, but I'm not the sort of fool who'd immediately blame "left wing thuggery" on it. As for harassment at the mall, well that would depend on the circumstance. It's curious to me that the same folks who get their britches in a bunch about right-wing accounts on social media being banned on account of them violating the terms of agreements & spewing out hatred, acting all persecuted & like their freedom of speech has been violated, also get their britches in a bunch when diners express their freedom of speech & confront other diners eating at public restaurants.

Colter said:

Yes, but they so desperately want Trump to be a Nazi. They deliberately misunderstand his positions.

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Lets see - Bower's position is that he disliked Trump because he felt Trump was too soft on “the k--- infestation. (k---: an anti semetic racial slur)

Colter said:

Yes, but they so desperately want Trump to be a Nazi. They deliberately misunderstand his positions.

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According to Donald Trump, some Neo-Nazi white nationalists are very fine people.

Trump Defends White-Nationalist Protesters: 'Some Very Fine People on Both Sides'

Neo-Nazi Convicted Of Domestic Terrorism Was Among ‘Very Fine People’ At Unite The Right

Really need to get out more USi. Don't you pay attention to the Queen?
Get your head out of CNN and MSNBC....

Didaskalos said:

Really need to get out more USi. Don't you pay attention to the Queen?
Get your head out of CNN and MSNBC....
{snip clip I knew was coming}

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LOL. You claimed "Did you not hear? The left does not have to be civil because they lost the election", but there's nothing in that clip about the "The left™" not having to be civil because they lost the election.

So you do have a citation that supports your claim or not?

Oh and the irony of you saying "get your head out of CNN" and then providing a clip from CNN was priceless.

Colter said:

As usual the media covered half the truth.

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O.k...

Colter said:

They were all from out of town with the exception of Richard Spenser who went moved here to go to UVA around.

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Spencer isn't from Charlottesville and he currently lives in Alexandria. Attending school there 15 years ago like 20,000 other people hardly makes him a local.

Colter said:

Spencer, the organizer was a part of occupy Wall Street and an Obama supporter.

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From where are you getting this poppycock? OWS was got started in 2011. Spencer was running the Alternative Right website in 2010. President Obama started running in 2007. Spencer was and editor at The American Conservative in 2007.

SilverBear said:

is this supposed to make us all forget about the mail bombs and Pittsburgh and all the death threats Christine Ford received?

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but but but left wing vandalism is just as bad, right?

LoAmmi said:

Socialism is a term that's almost lost all meaning at this point. I don't know of any major political party that wants the workers to control the means of production... you know, socialism. Now, if you mean things like Medicare-for-all and tuition free public college, then yes. And I'm proudly supportive of these ideas.

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Come to think of it, Trump said he supported similar ideas. Of course, Trump says a lot of things, so you can't blame his supporters for not believing they voted for a "socialist".