Why I Think Christmas is Not Biblical (Please read OP before posting).

Mal'ak · Oct 3, 2018

☦Marius☦ said:
Source needed for this.

A COPY OF THE LETTER WHICH POPE GREGORY SENT TO THE ABBOT MELLITUS, THEN GOING INTO BRITAIN. [A.D. 601.]

"To his most beloved son, the Abbot Mellitus; Gregory, the servant of the servants of God. We have been much concerned, since the departure of our congregation that is with you, because we have received no account of the success of your journey. When, therefore, Almighty God shall bring you to the most reverend Bishop Augustine, our brother, tell him what I have, upon mature deliberation on the affair of the English, determined upon, viz., that the temples of the idols in that nation ought not to be destroyed; but let the idols that are in them be destroyed; let holy water be made and sprinkled in the said temples, let altars be erected, and relics placed. For if those temples are well built, it is requisite that they be converted from the worship of devils to the service of the true God; that the nation, seeing that their temples are not destroyed, may remove error from their hearts, and knowing and adoring the true God, may the more familiarly resort to the places to which they have been accustomed. And because they have been used to slaughter many oxen in the sacrifices to devils, some solemnity must be exchanged for them on this account, as that on the day of the dedication, or the nativities of the holy martyrs, whose relics are there deposited, they may build themselves huts of the boughs of trees, about those churches which have been turned to that use from temples, and celebrate the solemnity with religious feasting, and no more offer beasts to the Devil, but kill cattle to the praise of God in their eating, and return thanks to the Giver of all things for their sustenance; to the end that, whilst some gratifications are outwardly permitted them, they may the more easily consent to the inward consolations of the grace of God. For there is no doubt that it is impossible to efface everything at once from their obdurate minds; because he who endeavours to ascend to the highest place, rises by degrees or steps, and not by leaps. Thus the Lord made Himself known to the people of Israel in Egypt; and yet He allowed them the use of the sacrifices which they were wont to offer to the Devil, in his own worship; so as to command them in his sacrifice to kill beasts, to the end that, changing their hearts, they might lay aside one part of the sacrifice, whilst they retained another; that whilst they offered the same beasts which they were wont to offer, they should offer them to God, and not to idols; and thus they would no longer be the same sacrifices. This it behooves your affection to communicate to our aforesaid brother, that he, being there present, may consider how he is to order all things. God preserve you in safety, most beloved son. Given the 17th of June, in the nineteenth year of the reign of our lord, the most pious emperor, Mauritius Tiberius, the eighteenth year after the consulship of our said lord. The fourth indiction."

Der Alter said:
And you actually believe all of this? What does a Norse holiday, from Norway, have to do with Anglo-Saxons in Britain? I don't see anything even remotely resembling credible, verifiable, historical evidence. This kind of evidence would be something written by a participant or direct eye witness at the time of the alleged activities. And the name is not Wotan, it is Woden, from which we get the name of Wednesday or Wodens day.

If you do not know your history, Anglo-Saxons followed the Norse religion. The Angleans came from Denmark, while the Saxons came from Northern Germany.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

David Cabrera said:
Does that mean we cannot live in places where pagans live because we aren't going to be blessed by God?

Did I say that? No.
Address the Scriptures I brought up.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

LittleLambofJesus said:
Oh chill out.........

I am not going to chill if you post bands that are infamous for mocking my Savior.

Not David · Oct 3, 2018

Jason0047 said:
Did I say that? No.
Address the Scriptures I brought up.

You are misusing Scriptures.
According to you if we follow the same motion of the pagans, we are doing pagan worshipping. Do non-believers who do the same motion of Christians are Christians?

Not David · Oct 3, 2018

This issue reminds me of this video.

PaulCyp1 · Oct 3, 2018

Wow! What a blatant example of the dangers of unauthorized personal misinterpretation of the Bible! Sad.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

Albion said:
The Christmas tree is the doing of some very famous Christians; and it is unmistakably Christian in its appearance and symbolism. It shares with the trees that the pagans used almost nothing except for the fact that both are...trees.

Early Romans marked the solstice with a feast called the Saturnalia in honor of Saturn, the god of agriculture. The Romans knew that the solstice meant that soon farms and orchards would be green and fruitful. To mark the occasion, they decorated their homes and temples with evergreen boughs. In Northern Europe the mysterious Druids, the priests of the ancient Celts, also decorated their temples with evergreen boughs as a symbol of everlasting life. The fierce Vikings in Scandinavia thought that evergreens were the special plant of the sun god, Balder.

Source:
https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas-trees

The use of evergreen trees, wreaths, and garlands to symbolize eternal life was a custom of the ancient Egyptians, Chinese, and Hebrews. Tree worship was common among the pagan Europeans and survived their conversion to Christianity in the Scandinavian customs of decorating the house and barn with evergreens at the New Year to scare away the Devil and of setting up a tree for the birds during Christmastime. It survived further in the custom, also observed in Germany, of placing a Yule tree at an entrance or inside the house during the midwinter holidays.

Source:
Christmas tree | Tradition & History

During the Roman mid-winter festival of Saturnalia, houses were decorated with wreaths of evergreen plants, along with other antecedent customs now associated with Christmas.

Source:
Christmas tree - Wikipedia

Not David · Oct 3, 2018

Jason0047 said:
Early Romans marked the solstice with a feast called the Saturnalia in honor of Saturn, the god of agriculture. The Romans knew that the solstice meant that soon farms and orchards would be green and fruitful. To mark the occasion, they decorated their homes and temples with evergreen boughs. In Northern Europe the mysterious Druids, the priests of the ancient Celts, also decorated their temples with evergreen boughs as a symbol of everlasting life. The fierce Vikings in Scandinavia thought that evergreens were the special plant of the sun god, Balder.

Source:
https://www.history.com/topics/christmas/history-of-christmas-trees

The use of evergreen trees, wreaths, and garlands to symbolize eternal life was a custom of the ancient Egyptians, Chinese, and Hebrews. Tree worship was common among the pagan Europeans and survived their conversion to Christianity in the Scandinavian customs of decorating the house and barn with evergreens at the New Year to scare away the Devil and of setting up a tree for the birds during Christmastime. It survived further in the custom, also observed in Germany, of placing a Yule tree at an entrance or inside the house during the midwinter holidays.

Source:
Christmas tree | Tradition & History

During the Roman mid-winter festival of Saturnalia, houses were decorated with wreaths of evergreen plants, along with other antecedent customs now associated with Christmas.

Source:
Christmas tree - Wikipedia

Pagans also circumcized their babies. What they do is not what matters is the reason for doing it.

Hank77 · Oct 3, 2018

Jason0047 said:
I also could easily also read Jeremiah 10:2-4 as talking about just trees as being idols

I don't see how you can when the very next verse says..
Jer 10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

Do you really think that anyone, even pagans, would think that a tree in it's natural form could do anything for them? Do you really think that anyone would be afraid of a tree in it's natural form?

Deu 16:21 Thou shalt not plant thee a grove of any trees near unto the altar of the LORD thy God, which thou shalt make thee.
Deu 16:22 Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God hateth.

Why not a Grove of trees NEAR the altar? It wasn't because the pagans were worshiping the trees, that's what the images were for. The pagans did many obscene and hidden rituals. God said not around His altar. God is about light and truth.

Deu 12:2 Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree.
Deu 12:3 And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

Daniel Marsh said:
Genesis 24:10 Then the servant gathered together 10 of his master’s camels and left, taking all kinds of valuable gifts from his master to give to his relatives. He traveled all the way to Mesopotamia, to the city of Nahor.

Genesis 25:6 To the sons of his concubines, Abraham gave gifts while he was still alive. But then he sent them away to the east, far away from what would now be his son Isaac’s household.

Genesis 43:26 When Joseph arrived home, they brought the presents into the house. With gifts in hand, they bowed to the ground before him.

Genesis 45:23 To his father, he sent even more: 10 donkeys loaded with the best Egyptian gifts and 10 female donkeys loaded with grain, bread, and provisions for his father for the journey

Psalm 72:10 Let the kings of Tarshish and the island kings shower him with gifts And the kings of Sheba and Seba bring him presents as well.

Proverbs 19:6 Many try to win the favor of a generous person, and everyone is a friend to someone who gives gifts.

The New Covenant teaches a higher way to give. Surely there is nothing wrong with giving gifts generally speaking because you care for people, but when it is under compulsion because of secular calendar holiday is telling you to do that; Especially when people fight each other in department stores and they go into financial debt as a result (that's another story altogether).

You said:
Matthew 2:11 and as soon as the wise men arrived, they saw Him with His mother Mary, and they bowed down and worshiped Him. They unpacked their satchels and gave Jesus gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh.

This is the giving of gifts to the Messiah.
The wise men were not giving gifts to each other or to their families as part of His birth (which is what takes place today).
The expectation of possibly receiving along with giving was not in view here, either.
The wisemen did not get in any fights in any department stores so as to acquire their gifts for our Lord.

You said:
Matthew 7:11 So if you, who are sinful, know how to give your children good gifts, how much more so does your Father in heaven, who is perfect, know how to give great gifts to His children!

Jesus was not saying that they should give good gifts to their children. That was not the point. His point is that He will give good gifts if we ask.

Again, in Luke 6, Jesus criticizes the form of giving to those you love alone.

32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.
33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again..."
(Luke 6:32-35).

We also see something similar to this in Luke 14, too.

12 "When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbours; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee.
13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:
14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just."
(Luke 14:12-14).

You said:
Acts 24:17 I have been away for several years, so recently I brought gifts for the poor of my nation and offered sacrifices.

This is actually a part of the commands given to us by Jesus (See Matthew 25:31-46). Paul was following the teachings of Christ. Giving to the poor is as if we are doing it unto Christ. This is not the same as Christmas giving that takes place every year. That kind of giving is focused on greed and materialism.

You said:
Biblicaly speaking there is nothing wrong with giving others gifts.

If we were talking about just general gift giving out of a pure heart of loving and helping others... no; But we are talking about giving under compulsion for a secular pagan worldly holiday that says it is about Jesus when in reality is about greed and materialism with nothing of the teachings from our Lord Jesus Christ.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

Hank77 said:
I don't see how you can when the very next verse says..
Jer 10:5 They are upright as the palm tree, but speak not: they must needs be borne, because they cannot go. Be not afraid of them; for they cannot do evil, neither also is it in them to do good.

Do you really think that anyone, even pagans, would think that a tree in it's natural form could do anything for them? Do you really think that anyone would be afraid of a tree in it's natural form?

Deu 16:21 Thou shalt not plant thee a grove of any trees near unto the altar of the LORD thy God, which thou shalt make thee.
Deu 16:22 Neither shalt thou set thee up any image; which the LORD thy God hateth.

Why not a Grove of trees NEAR the altar? It wasn't because the pagans were worshiping the trees, that's what the images were for. The pagans did many obscene and hidden rituals. God said not around His altar. God is about light and truth.

Deu 12:2 Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and under every green tree.
Deu 12:3 And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place.

Stop. Think for a second. Tree worship existed through out history.
If such is the case, and it is, then the Bible is simply talking about both forms of idols. Both the tree idols and the graven image (statue like people or animal) idols.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

David Cabrera said:
Pagans also circumcized their babies. What they do is not what matters is the reason for doing it.

A little leaven, leavens the whole lump.
In other words, it matters because it is mixing that which is bad with that which is good and it corrupts whatever good there was. In other words, it's like putting rat poison in a healthy beverage. The beverage is now bad. I mean, even without the bad pagan stuff mixed in, we have no instructions in God's Word to exchange gifts in honor of Jesus's birth on December 25th (that just so happens to be the (a) The time of the worship of pagan gods (b) The pagan festival of Saturnalia).

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

Daniel Marsh said:
I do not find the pagan origins claims as reliable since they started in propaganda books --- not solid history.

Think. Christmas.... Christ-mass. It is the mass of Christ. If you are Catholic, I suppose that is not a problem. But I just believe the Bible alone as my sole authority. Even Catholic's own encyclopedias say the same thing.

The Catholic Encyclopedia teaches that:

Christmas was not among the earliest festivals of the Church (Martindale C. Transcribed by Susanti A. Suastika. Christmas. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume III. Copyright © 1908 by Robert Appleton Company. Online Edition Copyright © 2003 by K. Knight. Nihil Obstat, November 1, 1908. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York).

Notice the following from The Catholic Encyclopedia:

Constantine the Great… Constantine can rightfully claim the title of Great, for he turned the history of the world into a new course and made Christianity…the religion of the State… it is easy to understand that many of the emperors yielded to the delusion that they could unite all their subjects in the adoration of the one sun-god who combined in himself the Father-God of the Christians and the much-worshipped Mithras; thus the empire could be founded anew on unity of religion. Even Constantine…cherished this mistaken belief… Could not Sol Deus Invictus, to whom even Constantine dedicated his coins for a long time, or Sol Mithras Deus Invictus, venerated by Diocletian and Galerius, become the supreme god of the empire? Constantine may have pondered over this. Nor had he absolutely rejected the thought even after a miraculous event had strongly influenced him in favour of the God of the Christians… It is true that the believers in Mithras also observed Sunday as well as Christmas. Consequently Constantine speaks not of the day of the Lord, but of the everlasting day of the sun. (Herbermann C., Georg Gp. Constantine the Great. The Catholic Encyclopedia. Vol. 4. Nihil Obstat. Remy Lafort, Censor. Imprimatur. +John M. Farley, Archbishop of New York. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1908).

Mithraism A pagan religion consisting mainly of the cult of the ancient Indo-Iranian Sun-god Mithra. It entered Europe from Asia Minor after Alexander’s conquest, spread rapidly over the whole Roman Empire at the beginning of our era, reached its zenith during the third century, and vanished under the repressive regulations of Theodosius at the end of the fourth century…Helios Mithras is one god…Sunday was kept holy in honour of Mithra, and the sixteenth of each month was sacred to him as mediator. The 25 December was observed as his birthday, the natalis invicti, the rebirth of the winter-sun, unconquered by the rigours of the season (Arendzen J. Mithraism. The Catholic Encyclopedia, Volume X. Nihil Obstat, October 1, 1911. Remy Lafort, S.T.D., Censor. Imprimatur. +John Cardinal Farley, Archbishop of New York. New York: Robert Appleton Company, 1911).

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

Akita Suggagaki said:
I am not the one trying, you are. Right?

One liners are a weak argument. Just the Scriptures or historical sources please.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

Daniel Marsh said:
Jehovah's Witnesses should do away with their Cars.
Henry Ford Discusses Religion with R. W. Trine
Magnate and Murshid
Henry Ford Receiving the 33rd Degree in 1940
"To be fair, both Edison and Ford were holders of any number of strange occult beliefs, and to be honest that part of this story doesn't really interest me. Where I want to wander is this idea of catching a last breath in a bottle and this breath somehow holding a soul or ghost."
Renfusa: Genius in a Bottle: Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Ghosts, and Genies Thomas Edison - Wikipedia
"Henry Ford was a fan of the New Thought leader Ralph Waldo Trine, and he often gave visitors copies of Trine’s In Tune With the Infinite. "
The Weird World of Occult America -- How Mysticism Shaped Our Nation https://www.google.com/search?q="seance"+Henry+Ford+Mansion&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjF172bzuvdAhVRXK0KHVDRBdsQ5t4CMAB6BAgJEAc&biw=1163&bih=528

"In other words, Ford was such a Edison fanboy he literally asked his son to capture his father’s last breath in a vial so he could keep it forever. According to the legend, the keep sake may have been linked to Henry’s weird obsession with reincarnation, and the idea that our last breath is associated with the soul leaving the body. "The Henry Ford Museum has one of the weirdest Edison artifacts ever

Also, they should turn off their lights too.

I am not a Jehovah's Witness. Deal with the actual verses I presented please.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

GingerBeer said:
I think that cars and jets are not biblical. Now what?

When we say it is not biblical, we say it is something that we should not indulge in. Surely God's Word never condemned us in using horses or other modes of travel like ships, etc.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 3, 2018

Tyler82 said:
I plan to keep celebrating Christmas. There is no scriptural prohibition against having fun, giving gifts, or spreading good cheer. That there is no mention of ancient Christians celebrating it is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. For me it is spiritually uplifting to celebrate the birth and show love to my spiritual and earthly family. So I will keep doing it. I'm going to indulge in my love of irony by quoting the great Ebenezer Scrooge. You keep Christmas in your way and let me keep it in mine.

I need some Christmas cheer. This year has been a real bugbear and a reminder and celebration of that which transcends the craziness of this planet is most welcome.

Our sufficiency should come from Christ alone and not in a worldly holiday.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 4, 2018

Al Masihi said:
I’d just like to address your allegations on Christmas one by one. Christmas focuses on the birth of our Lord who came to redeem us as the second Adam, which is why we should celebrate it.

While I do not have a problem with a believer honoring Christ's birth on their own, to make a secular holiday on his birth alone without mentioning the resurrection is only telling half of the story. People know about his birth and they give gifts to each other, but that's about it. Most really are not worshiping Jesus on this day. It would be nice if they did, but that simply is not the reality we see in this holiday. We see greed, and materialism on this holiday. We see nothing of the teachings of Jesus on this holiday.

You said:
Christmas isn’t celebrated isn’t he New Testament, why would you expect to find it in the New Testament? The New Testament focuses on narratives of Jesus and Christian theological view points. Not on celebrating holidays.

All Scripture is profitable doctrine (1 Timothy 3:16-17).

You said:
The date of Jesus’s birth doesn’t correspond to any pagan deity, that’s a common myth.

See my post #73.

You said:
Deuteronomy 16:21 addresses the issue of graven images and images of worship not everything we make with our hands as images, just images of worship. If Jeremiah 10:2-4 makes cutting down a tree for Christmas wring then it also makes all forms of carpentry wrong, by your logic we shouldn’t even make chairs to sit on, it just shows you how absurd such an interpretation is. Jeremiah is talking about Trees used in pagan rituals, the Christmas tree isn’t prayed to or worshipped, also Christmas Charles aren’t directed to the Christmas tree where’d you get that idea?

It's not describing furniture in Jeremiah 10. It is talking about trees that they would decorate as a part of tree worship. Deuteronomy 16 was just one way to prevent the Israelites from even getting close to being tempted to be involved in tree worship.

Tree worship is a real thing through out history. Even if you wanted these verses not to be about tree worship that did take place in Bible times, it still was a problem and would have been condemned by God's Word regardless. Druids today are involved in regarding trees as sacred or magical objects. Wreaths and mistletoes all come from pagan origins.

Christmas is literally a reminder of the birth of God on earth, how is it a tradition of man.

Do you believe every organization that talks about Jesus is telling the whole truth about Jesus? Paul talks about those who preach another Jesus. This is another Jesus being preached here because they leave out the resurrection, they place his birth at the wrong time during the worship of other pagan gods, they focus on greed and materialism on this day (Which runs contrary to the teachings of Jesus).

Just because something isn’t explained or defined in scripture it doesn’t point to it being false. The concept of secret gift giving in Christmas dates back to Saint Nicholas who inspired the now secular concept of Santa Claus. Saint Nicholas gave gifts to people all the time, furthermore Christians are to always give gifts even when it’s not Christmas so I’m missing your point there.

If you move the letter "n" in Santa to the end... it spells the name of the enemy of God's people. Nicholas is similar to the name of the Nicolaitans in the Bible.

In Revelation 2:6, Jesus says this about them:

"But this thou hast, that thou hatest the deeds of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate."

Also, just because somebody gives gifts does not make them a good person.
Jesus said in Matthew 7:11 that a person can be evil and give good gifts.

You said:
The focus of Christmas is prayer, worship and celebrating the birth of our Lord and Savior, I think your confusing the authentic Christian concept of Christmas with the modern secular concept of it.

Perhaps there a few small select groups or a few rare people who actually do worship and pray and honor Jesus during Christmas, but even if they do so, they are in the minority. Most do not celebrate it in this way. But even if the majority people did worship and honor Christ's birth (with no mention of His resurrection), it is not something we are specifically instructed to do within His Word. While I am not against honoring our Lord's birth, it would be in light or view of the fact that He is our risen Lord now and not just a baby in a manger. Jesus was also not born on December 25th during the time of many pagan gods. The Bible strongly suggests in light of the Talmud that the Lord was actually born on Nisan 1 (the Jewish New Year) whereby He makes all things new. The problem here is going outside of God's Word when it comes to worshiping Him. Cain tried to worship God his own way that God did not instruct Him to do. His offering was not accepted by God.

When the Bible tells us to remain seperate from the world, it means to be seperate from sin and worldly desires, it doesn’t mean we are to become brain dead individuals with no sense of celebration,

But sin and worldly desires is what takes place on Christmas.
It is about greed and materialism.
Maybe your version of Christmas is a little different, but an elite group or a few small individuals is not going to change how the holiday is generally celebrated by most.

You said:
as Jesus himself attended a wedding at Cana.

Nowhere does it say that Jesus was at a drunken Wedding party with him joining in on that.

You said:
When Saint Paul says think of what is in heaven and not the things on Earth, he also means to not think of worldly or sinful things,

Which is exactly my point. The Christmas holiday is geared towards materialism and greed. It is world recognized holiday.

You said:
furthermore the birth of God on earth isn’t something worldly, remembering it isn’t worldly either.

Not the same Jesus. Paul says if someone preaches another Jesus in whom we have not preached... bear with them. Paul never preached about a Jesus whereby we...

(a) Worship Him as a baby (leaving out His resurrection).
(b) Recognize that He was born on December 25th.
(c) Celebrate Jesus by us giving gifts to each other in such way that contradicted the teachings of Jesus.

Bible Highlighter · Oct 4, 2018

David Cabrera said:
You are misusing Scriptures.
According to you if we follow the same motion of the pagans, we are doing pagan worshipping. Do non-believers who do the same motion of Christians are Christians?

Prove that I am misusing the Scriptures by actually bringing them up please.

LittleLambofJesus · Oct 4, 2018

Jason0047 said:
When we say it is not biblical, we say it is something that we should not indulge in. Surely God's Word never condemned us in using horses or other modes of travel like ships, etc.

Chariots are pretty cool.
Need to put that on my Christmas wish list

Ezekiel 23:24
And they shall come against you
With chariots, wagons, and war-horses,
With a horde of people.
They shall array against you
Buckler, shield, and helmet all around.

Revelation 6:6
And I hear a voice in midst of the four living-ones saying: "choinex of grain/wheat a denari and three choinex of barleys a denari, and the oil and the wine no you should be injuring". [John 11:48]

Revelation 9:9
And they had breastplates like breastplates of iron,
and the sound of their wings was like the sound of chariots with many horses running into battle.

Revelation 18:13
13 “and cinnamon and incense, fragrant oil and frankincense, wine and oil, fine flour and wheat, cattle and sheep, horses and chariots, and bodies and souls of men.
16 “and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great City that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls!

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