Letter of the Law vs. Spirit of the Law

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New Testament Promise: Now if we sin deliberately after we have known and accepted the truth, there can be no further sacrifice for sin for us but only a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fire of God’s indignation, which will one day consume all that sets itself against him.
 
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New Testament Promise: Now if we sin deliberately after we have known and accepted the truth, there can be no further sacrifice for sin for us but only a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fire of God’s indignation, which will one day consume all that sets itself against him.

and yet :

John 16:33 King James Version (KJV)
33 These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world
 
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and yet what ? Did God contradict Himself ? No.
Every Word that proceeds from His mouth is truth.
Therefore, if/ after / you learn and accepted the truth (whenever that may be),
then , if you sin deliberately , there can be no further sacrifice for your sin but only a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fire of God's indignation, which will one day consume all that sets itself against Him (as you have; the only hope being you never yet came to learn and accept the truth) .

So you choose to see God differently than I do, I think God is much more kind, decent and forgiving, I think he loves us all and wants us to be of good cheer. I don't see a ALL vengeful God, I see an all knowing and all LOVING God.

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So far as it looks from your own posts, you have been totally deceived by a false gospel and/or false teachers/ and/or false teachings ,
(as shown by your posts directly contrary to Yahweh's (God's) Word).

Oh, He is Perfectly Faithful and True and Merciful, if you are willing,
but if you are not, then Jesus will lament over you as He did over Jerusalem because they were not willing to accept Him.

Yahweh can even and has forgiven gays, but only if they repented in line with His Word.
Yahweh even called and chose the Apostle Paul, when he was still Shaul,
an enemy of the Ekklesia going about seeking their deaths.

So Yahweh can forgive you, if He Pleases to, if you are willing to call on Jesus to be healed and saved if you did not do so already.


I believe God is about HOPE, LOVE and MERCY- Spiritually optimistic or pessimistic, its up to you.

John 11:39 Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days.

40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?

41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid. And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou hast heard me.

42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people which stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.

43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come forth.
 
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That sin should not be mistaken for the common fumbles & foibles experienced in the sanctification process. (And you should be careful not to mislead young believers, lest you plunge everybody back into salvation by works.)

The rule of thumb that I subscribe to is if a Christian still understands Hell to be a real & scary place (to be shunned), they are not apostate. They still have the conviction of the Holy Spirit.

If a person got saved at one time, but no longer believes Hell to be a real place to fear, they are likely to be apostate (but that final call rests with Jesus).

John 9:2-4 King James Version (KJV)

2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
 
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So ?
Believing that won't bring about forgiveness of sin, atonement, or justification, nor is it an excuse for sin ,
nor can it save you if you don't believe God's Word.

Jesus told everyone "turn to Yahweh" (away from sin) (repent) and "go and sin no more" and many other things , some as noted recently.

So, not everyone that has different viewpoints than you is doomed to eternal damnation, its not for you, me, or anyone besides God to judge.
 
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Matthew 11:29-30 The Message (MSG)

28-30 “Are you tired? Worn out? Burned out on religion? Come to me. Get away with me and you’ll recover your life. I’ll show you how to take a real rest. Walk with me and work with me—watch how I do it. Learn the unforced rhythms of grace. I won’t lay anything heavy or ill-fitting on you. Keep company with me and you’ll learn to live freely and lightly.

The Message (MSG)
 
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That's partly right. It is God to judge. He has judged you for your unbelief, same as He judges everyone else if they don't belief. His Word Says so - and He is the Judge.
His Word is right and true.
His view is the only one that counts, not mine, not yours, not any man's apart from His.


Did HE personally tell you that he has judged me ?
 
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So you choose to see God differently than I do, I think God is much more kind, decent and forgiving, I think he loves us all and wants us to be of good cheer. I don't see a ALL vengeful God, I see an all knowing and all LOVING God.
He is both!
  • His Righteousness demands Justice. Unclean/unprepared people will die in His presence in spite of His Love for them. Even His friend, Moses [see Exodus 33:17-23 below*].
  • Knowing this, He came up with an Amnesty program to prepare those who would be so cleaned (so that they would not die in His presence).
The latter will be blessed to receive Him.
The former will die (as certainly as Moses would have) in their unprepared state.

*So the Lord said to Moses, “I will also do this thing that you have spoken; for you have found grace in My sight, and I know you by name.

And [Moses] said, “Please, show me Your glory.

Then He said, “I will make all My goodness pass before you, and I will proclaim the name of the Lord before you. I will be gracious to whom I will be gracious, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion.” But He said, “You cannot see My face; for no man shall see Me, and live.” And the Lord said, “Here is a place by Me, and you shall stand on the rock. So it shall be, while My glory passes by, that I will put you in the cleft of the rock, and will cover you with My hand while I pass by. Then I will take away My hand, and you shall see My back; but My face shall not be seen.
 
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John 9:2-4 King James Version (KJV)

2 And his disciples asked him, saying, Master, who did sin, this man, or his parents, that he was born blind?

3 Jesus answered, Neither hath this man sinned, nor his parents: but that the works of God should be made manifest in him.
That verse applies to health issues and, if you stretch it, poverty.
 
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