Are God’s CHOSEN living up to His expectations?

Firstly, the chosen ones are those who hear the word of God and keep it. So this excludes many born of Israel and includes many Gentiles.

Secondly, the whole problem that they had in possessing the promised land was that they did not wipe all the nations out and then you say "its because they weren't kind to the Philistine that God dispossessed them." When this is opposite of what God commanded them. He warned them about leaving some alive and they becoming thorns in their sides causing them to be led astray after other Gods.

But as for today, there is no such ordinance or call for the Israelite people to welcome their enemies and let them walk all over them. They've done this already and that time is over.

chuckpeterson said:

The above means that God did not give the land to them yet. They must first earn this gift.

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You should read the Book of Joshua. You will see that God did give them the land. And then many years later they went into captivity in Babylon because they did not keep the Sabbath. Also the land God gave them was not allowed to rest every 7 years.

chuckpeterson said:

I believe they have not earned this right, do you?[/QUOTE
You cannot earn a gift.
Do you believe you can earn anything from God?

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Now Joshua was old and advanced in years, and the Lord said to him, “You are old and advanced in years, and there remains yet very much land to possess. This is the land that yet remains: all the regions of the Philistines, and all those of the Geshurites (from the Shihor, which is east of Egypt, northward to the boundary of Ekron, it is counted as Canaanite; there are five rulers of the Philistines, those of Gaza, Ashdod, Ashkelon, Gath, and Ekron), and those of the Avvim, in the south, all the land of the Canaanites, and Mearah that belongs to the Sidonians, to Aphek, to the boundary of the Amorites, and the land of the Gebalites, and all Lebanon, toward the sunrise, from Baal-gad below Mount Hermon to Lebo-hamath, all the inhabitants of the hill country from Lebanon to Misrephoth-maim, even all the Sidonians. I myself will drive them out from before the people of Israel. Only allot the land to Israel for an inheritance, as I have commanded you. Now therefore divide this land for an inheritance to the nine tribes and half the tribe of Manasseh.” ~Joshua 13:1-7

Manasseh did not drive out...~Judges 1:27

And Ephraim did not drive...~Judges 1:29

Zebulun did not drive out...~Judges 1:30

Asher did not drive out...~Judges 1:31

Naphtali did not drive out...~Judges 1:33

Now the angel of the Lord went up from Gilgal to Bochim. And he said, “I brought you up from Egypt and brought you into the land that I swore to give to your fathers. I said, ‘I will never break my covenant with you, and you shall make no covenant with the inhabitants of this land; you shall break down their altars.’ But you have not obeyed my voice. What is this you have done? So now I say, I will not drive them out before you, but they shall become thorns in your sides, and their gods shall be a snare to you.” ~Judges 2:1-3

The people of Israel again did what was evil in the sight of the Lord and served the Baals and the Ashtaroth, the gods of Syria, the gods of Sidon, the gods of Moab, the gods of the Ammonites, and the gods of the Philistines. And they forsook the Lord and did not serve him. ~Judges 10:6

The people were charged by God to drive out the inhabitants.

“When my angel goes before you and brings you to the Amorites and the Hittites and the Perizzites and the Canaanites, the Hivites and the Jebusites, and I blot them out, you shall not bow down to their gods nor serve them, nor do as they do, but you shall utterly overthrow them and break their pillars in pieces. You shall serve the Lord your God, and he will bless your bread and your water, and I will take sickness away from among you. None shall miscarry or be barren in your land; I will fulfill the number of your days. I will send my terror before you and will throw into confusion all the people against whom you shall come, and I will make all your enemies turn their backs to you. And I will send hornets before you, which shall drive out the Hivites, the Canaanites, and the Hittites from before you. I will not drive them out from before you in one year, lest the land become desolate and the wild beasts multiply against you. Little by little I will drive them out from before you, until you have increased and possess the land. And I will set your border from the Red Sea to the Sea of the Philistines, and from the wilderness to the Euphrates, for I will give the inhabitants of the land into your hand, and you shall drive them out before you. You shall make no covenant with them and their gods. They shall not dwell in your land, lest they make you sin against me; for if you serve their gods, it will surely be a snare to you.” ~Exodus 23:23-33

chuckpeterson said:

That is what this forum is all about. Today, what does God see and do you think He likes what He sees?

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As for the Israelites today, they do not recognize Yahshua as the coming King. This is their problem and why God is about to make it clear to them who is the Lord. This is a much bigger problem than international diplomacy.

Depends what you mean by "chosen".

There are 2 prophecies about national Israel that we can see today. First that they would be a nation again (parable of fig tree Mark 13, Matt 24); this occurred in 1948 after being destroyed by the Roman Titus in AD 70. The second that they will remain in unbelief until the end of time (Romans 11). They are just as adamant about their opposition to Christ as the Messiah as they were at any time in their history

The Israelites were chosen in the sense that for 2100 years, God worked through Israel to bring us the Bible. The Bible was written principally by Jews. Christ our Savior came out of national Israel. He was given His human nature from the nation of Israel. He was a blood descendant of Abraham and King David, of the tribe of Judah. In that sense, the Israelites were the chosen people.

Eternally, the Israelites, the physical Jews, are not chosen. The chosen people are the spiritual Jews, those who trust in the Lord Jesus. Eternally, those who trust Jesus are the elect or the chosen of God, and they come from every nation of the world. Romans 2:28, 29 ”For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh: But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart” Everyone who is a blood descendant of Abraham is a physical Jew. The Jew that God talks about in this passage is the person who has come to trust in the Lord Jesus. (Galatians Chapter 3:29): If someone is Christ’s, it means that he has become saved.

The nation of Israel now stands on the same ground as any Gentile nation. No one has a superior position or advantage over anyone else. The physical Jews are in unbelief and might become saved, if that is the will of God, just as those in Gentile nations are in unbelief and might become saved, if that is the will of God. In Romans Chapter 11, God is talking to the Gentiles about the nation of Israel. Here God underscores the fact that no nation has any superiority or advantage over any other nation (verses 30 to 32).

We can be a Gentile and belong to the Lord Jesus, and then spiritually, we are of the seed of Abraham, that is, of the lineage of Abraham. We are the true Jews, which God speaks of in Romans 2:28 and 29. We are a Jew inwardly. “Circumcision is that of the heart” means that our sins have been cut off.

Duet 7 uses national Israel as an example of all true believers who inherit the land, which is the kingdom of God. Those that inherit the land make up the eternal Israel consisting of a remnant of people from around the world and throughout time.

When one of the chosen becomes saved then they are spiritually living to God's expectations (I John2:3) because they have been saved from Gods wrath, all their sins are forgiven and they have a new spirit or resurrected soul (Eze 11:19,36:27,Heb 8:10,10:16,Titus 3:5). However, while living on this earth they have a cursed physical body that still lusts after sin (Ro 8:10). In this way they are not meeting God's expectations. Paul describes this internal battle (Roman 7:25)

In Christ’s Service

David

chuckpeterson said:

Why I am here

I have a personal attachment to the Old Testament and the verses contained therein. This includes the verses where the Lord talked directly to the Israelite people. In this one-way discussion the Lord laid out directives for them to follow and the blessing they would get if they followed His commandments. I took these directives and compared them to historical events and found them wanting. Personally, I would like to see the Israeli people change their ways by embracing the stranger (Palestinian) and treat them as one of their own just as the Lord instructed them to do. I truly believe this “example” would create a wave of peace across the middle east.

This is the biggest reason I am here; but there are others

Why are you here-?

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The problem with that is that so many Palestinians want to kill the Jews.

chuckpeterson said:

With no animosity intended or implied I do not believe they want to kill the "Jews", they want revenge on the IDF for murdering their children---
Google "IDF shooting children"

May 14, 2016 - UNICEF warns of excessive use of force, particularly in relation to incidents where Palestinian children were shot dead. ... the example on October 25 in Hebron in the West Bank of a 17-year-old girl who was "taken by IDF (Israel Defence Forces) soldiers for a search, shot with at least five bullets and killed".
2016 'deadliest year' for West Bank children in decade | News | Al ...
www.aljazeera.com/.../2016-deadliest-year-west-bank-children-decade-17010314502...

12 yr old boy SHOT DEAD in front of your eyes
Updated 9.48 p.m., 3rd Oct 2000
http://www.themodernreligion.com/jihad/sniper.html

Gaza girl said killed
By Amos Harel and Nir Hasson, Haaretz Correspondents,
and Haaretz Service
Thu., October 28, 2004
IDF troops shot and killed an 8-year-old Palestinian girl who was on her way to school in a Gaza Strip refugee camp
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/494672.html

UN officials: Girl hit by IDF gunfire in UN school in Gaza
By Amos Harel, Haaretz Correspondent and AP
Tue., October 12, 2004 Tishrei 27, 5765
An 11-year-old Palestinian girl was shot in the stomach and critically wounded by Israel Defense Forces gunfire. IDF troops fired two shots, one of the shots hit a fifth-grade student at the school. Last month, a 10-year-old girl was killed by IDF gunfire while sitting at her desk at the same school.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487788.html

United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNRWA) 7 September 2004 At 07:45 10-year old Raghda Adnan Al-Assar was struck in the head by Israeli fire while sitting at her desk in UNRWA's Elementary
Girl's School On June 1 this year two ten-year old children in UNRWA's
Al-Umariye Elementary Boys' School in Rafah were hit by a bullet from a Israeli tank
In March 2003
12-year old Hoda Darwish was hit in the head by a bullet fired Two 10 year-old schoolchildren were shot in the al-Omaria school run by UNRWA in Rafah, when an Israeli tank fired into their classroom.
Bullets fired from the tank flew through the classroom window, hitting Mahmoud Hamad in the neck and Hisham al Habil in the head. The boys had not even been sitting by the windows but in the middle of the room. (this was an assassination of specific children by the IDF)
http://www.palestinemonitor.org/index.html

Photos of a 12 year old palestinian boy being shot by Israeli soldiers and the ambulance driver who tried to save him also being shot and killed.
http://www.palestine-net.com/misc/durra/

Three-year-old Rawan Abu Zeid, who took bullets in the neck and head while buying candy with her friends.
5 June 2004
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article2785.shtml

An eight-year-old Palestinian girl shot dead by Israeli troops in the central Gaza Strip was killed while showing off her new school uniform to friends
http://tinyurl.com/99kh8zk

Your best response is to claim that the above is fake news. This works for Trump. Or you can say the 8 year old girl deserved it because she threw racks at the IDF.

If neither work for you then what excuse do you have in mind?

just asking

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You might remember that 6 million Jews were exterminated by Hitler during World War II. The Jews needed a safe place to live. It was decided that place would be Palestine. After all, the Lord gave that tiny little plot of land to the Jews as an everlasting inheritance long ago.

But the Palestinians, and their neighbors, tried to drive the Jews out. And you know the rest of the story.

chuckpeterson said:

The death of those Jews does not excuse the murder of children by IDF snipers. By ignoring the content of my post by inserting other atrocities may make you seel better but does nothing to address my post.

Here is something else to consider --
World Genocides
9,350,000 Jews by Germany
7,650,000 Polish Catholics by Germany
7,500,000 Ukrainians by USSR
3,000,000 Cambodians
1,750.000 Kazakh
1,500,000 Amenians were totally exterminated
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides_by_death_toll

The Jews are not alone in the sad history of genocides

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I don't know the details of what is going on in Palestine, but I do think the Jews have the right to live there and defend themselves.