Bloody Monday! Israel Massacres Protesters

TheBear · May 14, 2018

TheBibleIsTruth said:
Blood on the hands of Donald Trump

Because Trump ordered it. No, wait. Because Trump is a White Supremacist who hates Jews. No, wait. That doesn't make sense either, because Trump declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel. So much for the charges of antisemitism against Trump. Or, maybe he's a newer and more progressive type of White Supremacist, who embraces Jews?

Barney2.0 · May 15, 2018

Israel isn’t killing peaceful protesters, they are rightly killing rioters who want to incite violence and kill.

Barney2.0 · May 15, 2018

Godistruth1 said:
Funny how the murder of civilians is defended by many Christians. Palestinians are stripped of their land and property and life and people have guts to say why they protest!

What land? Palestinians lose land because of wars they start and their own refusal for peaceful resolutions. Palestinians aren’t protesting they’re rioting and murdering, Palestinians used to torture Christians and murder babies infront of their mother’s in Lebanon, they’re the last people to ask for justice.

Barney2.0 · May 15, 2018

Godistruth1 said:
Hama's don't come stone pelting! What would you do if someone entered your house and threw you out and shot you for protesting?

Your right Hamas sends women and children to do it for them while they send rockets while hiding behind their walls in Gaza. If someone threw me out of my home and shot me for protesting then I’d be pretty angry, that’s what Palestinians practically did in Lebanon throw out Christians from their homes and shoot them. Buts it’s a good thing Israel never did that to Palestinians, there was no kicking out of homes if that was true the Palestinian population in the land of Israel would be a lot smaller.

Barney2.0 · May 15, 2018

Godistruth1 said:
Do you justify their persecution of Christians as well? Do they also wear bombs?

Israel is the only state in the Middle East where Christianity is growing.

Barney2.0 · May 15, 2018

☦Marius☦ said:
Lets not forget that the Palestinian Christians have been decimated by the Israelis as well.
Israel is occupying strips of land that was NOT given to them by the UN in the original charter. They took and settled land illegally beyond their boarders, but nobody can do anything because the US just threatens whoever trys to say anything.

Seriously look up the legal charter that Israel was given for land occupation, and look what they currently posses.

The UN mandate was rejected by Palestinians in favor of a war.

TheBibleIsTruth · May 15, 2018

Inkfingers said:
Care to say on what basis you reach that conclusion, or are you limiting yourself to just making assertions?

Yeah, based on your blind support of what Trump is doing, who has done more than any other leader to encourage hate in this world.

Inkfingers · May 15, 2018

TheBibleIsTruth said:
Yeah, based on your blind support of what Trump is doing, who has done more than any other leader to encourage hate in this world.

So can you explain how I am blindly supporting Trump when I say "a complete fool would bow to an unwashed thuggish mob who threaten violence if you move your embassy". This is a general principle that applies to any government, not just Trump's.

TheBibleIsTruth · May 15, 2018

Inkfingers said:
So can you explain how I am blindly supporting Trump when I say "a complete fool would bow to an unwashed thuggish mob who threaten violence if you move your embassy". This is a general principle that applies to any government, not just Trump's.

because the actions of Donald Trump are itself thuggish!

Dave-W · May 15, 2018

LucasWhite said:
If Iran wipes Israel off the map

THAT will never happen.

TheBibleIsTruth · May 15, 2018

Inkfingers said:
How is moving an embassy to recognise Jerusalem as the capital of Israel "thuggish"?

the short version. there is no international recognition for Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. whether people like this or agree with it, is not the point. East Jerusalem was taken by Israel during the Six Day War in 1967, which was meant to, under the 1949 treaty, belong to the Palestinians. The US, and Israel both are members of the United Nations, but have completely ignored what the other nations say about this, and went ahead and did as they pleased. What are the real motives of Trump to do this? He must have known that the direct result of his actions would further inflame the hostilities that have long existed in the area. To simply ignore world opinion, is to act as a thug would do, who only cares about themselves, and stick two fingers up to the rest of the world.

Inkfingers · May 15, 2018

TheBibleIsTruth said:
the short version. there is no international recognition for Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

That doesn't make moving the embassy there thuggish.

East Jerusalem was taken by Israel during the Six Day War in 1967, which was meant to, under the 1949 treaty, belong to the Palestinians.

You mean when Israel responded to an attack on them in 67...

The US, and Israel both are members of the United Nations, but have completely ignored what the other nations say about this, and went ahead and did as they pleased.

That doesn't makes them thuggish either.

Trump ... must have known that the direct result of his actions would further inflame the hostilities that have long existed in the area.

Anyone who says "move your embassy and I will kill people" is not someone you should bow to. THEY are a thug.

To simply ignore world opinion, is to act as a thug would do

Not it isn't. Thug means someone behaving brutally and even has, as synonyms, words like "rioter" and "rowdy" which are very good descriptions of what we saw amongst the Arab protestors.

You appear to be twisting words to suit your opposition to Trump, which is dishonest of you.

Dave-W · May 15, 2018

TheBibleIsTruth said:
read # 111 and 119

From #119:

TheBibleIsTruth said:
see how you TWIST what I said. I used the ENGLISH word fool,

Since WHEN is discussing biblical truths legitimately done in languages OTHER than the original?

If you are going to call someone a "fool" in english, then you need to take it back to what got translated "fool" in our english versions; and THAT was prohibited by our Lord.

Dave-W · May 15, 2018

TheBibleIsTruth said:
East Jerusalem was taken by Israel during the Six Day War in 1967, which was meant to, under the 1949 treaty, belong to the Palestinians.

Sorry - the Jews had a prior claim.

Joshua 1:3-4
3 Every place on which the sole of your foot treads, I have given it to you, just as I spoke to Moses. 4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon, even as far as the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and as far as the Great Sea toward the setting of the sun will be your territory.

In case you think that gift is not still in effect:

Romans 11:29
for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

TLK Valentine · May 15, 2018

yeshuaslavejeff said:
Seek the Truth,
and Keep Seeking the Truth,
Yahweh's Promise is 'then you will find/know the Truth, and the Truth will set you FREE'...

Looks like Truth has an annoying habit of arriving at muzzle velocity.

TheBibleIsTruth · May 15, 2018

Dave-W said:
From #119:

Since WHEN is discussing biblical truths legitimately done in languages OTHER than the original?

If you are going to call someone a "fool" in english, then you need to take it back to what got translated "fool" in our english versions; and THAT was prohibited by our Lord.

that is your understanding.

TheBibleIsTruth · May 15, 2018

Dave-W said:
Sorry - the Jews had a prior claim.

Joshua 1:3-4
3 Every place on which the sole of your foot treads, I have given it to you, just as I spoke to Moses. 4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon, even as far as the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and as far as the Great Sea toward the setting of the sun will be your territory.

In case you think that gift is not still in effect:

Romans 11:29
for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

ἀμεταμέλητος, "not repented of, unregretted" (Thayer Greek lexicon); "not repented of, unregretted" (Abbott-Smith, Greek Lexicon); "not to be repented of or regretted" (Liddell and Scott, Greek lexicon)

The New Testament was written in Greek, and not English. The above authrities, like the KJV, do not render the Greek word "irrevocable", as this is not what it means.

Dave-W · May 15, 2018

TheBibleIsTruth said:
The New Testament was written in Greek, and not English. The above authrities, like the KJV, do not render the Greek word "irrevocable", as this is not what it means.

The KJV used the phrase "without repentance." It amounts to the same thing: Once God has called someone or given something, that calling or gifting is never to be changed. No repentance. No change of mind. No turning around and going back. IOW, it is established FOREVER.

BTW - the translators of the following versions used "irrevocable" here:

CSB
CJB
ESV, ESVUK
EXB
HCSB
LEB
MEV
MOUNCE
NABRE
NASB
NET
NIV, NIVUK
NKJV
NRSV, NRSVA
OJB
RSV, RSVCE
TLV
WEB

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Suggestion: get a copy of this book and read it:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Irrevocable-Calling-Israels-published-November/dp/B018EXHZWU

TLK Valentine · May 15, 2018

Dave-W said:
Sorry - the Jews had a prior claim.

Joshua 1:3-4
3 Every place on which the sole of your foot treads, I have given it to you, just as I spoke to Moses. 4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon, even as far as the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and as far as the Great Sea toward the setting of the sun will be your territory.

In case you think that gift is not still in effect:

Romans 11:29
for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable.

The same rationale for their slaughtering the Canaanites thousands of years ago can be applied to gunning down the Palestinians yesterday... in fact, they could execute every last Palestinian man, woman, and child, with God's blessing.

Don't you love an excuse with no expiration date?

Dave-W · May 15, 2018

TLK Valentine said:
Don't you love an excuse with no expiration date?

I love a PROMISE with no expiration date.

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