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Hi all. About 6 months ago I came to live in a christian conference centre as a volunteer. when I arrived I went to a prayer ministry session and an image was given to someone for me.

the image was an egg in a furnace. 3 days later my mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer.

i wonder if anyone here with a gift of discernment or prophecy can help me understand what God was saying through this image?
 

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Like with dreams, I think only the person it's intended for can discern it fully. You may have already with the thought connected to your mom's cancer. Is she well or otherwise? I cannot go this journey for you. Is that "egg" you, going through a fiery trial with your mom? Is that "egg" your mom?

I suppose the question would be why, why would God tell someone else this to tell you? I know I have such inclinations and do tell others, but they are usually quite explicit when given ("Go get your heart check out, you're going to die of a heart attack" was one such, they didn't and 2 weeks later died of a heart attack. But this was a family member, as many of mine are about, so it's not like premonitions or medium work, which I shun personally (I do not ask God for more.)

Some things you accept and move on. Be well
 
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Sounds to me it was a warning that you'll be going through a tough time. You are the egg and the fire is the situation with your mom (I'm sorry you have to go through this). Other than that I need more information to give a good interpretation. In the end, I guess you'll have to choose whether or not you let the fire just melt your colors off or if it will melt you completely.
 
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Like with dreams, I think only the person it's intended for can discern it fully. You may have already with the thought connected to your mom's cancer. Is she well or otherwise? I cannot go this journey for you. Is that "egg" you, going through a fiery trial with your mom? Is that "egg" your mom?

I suppose the question would be why, why would God tell someone else this to tell you? I know I have such inclinations and do tell others, but they are usually quite explicit when given ("Go get your heart check out, you're going to die of a heart attack" was one such, they didn't and 2 weeks later died of a heart attack. But this was a family member, as many of mine are about, so it's not like premonitions or medium work, which I shun personally (I do not ask God for more.)

Some things you accept and move on. Be well

how might one be "well" with terminal cancer LOL
 
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i dont have any gifts, but the furnace reminds me of the three youths. they were delivered from death in the furnace. the egg is a symbol of new life, particularly of the resurrection. i would meditate on those things in relation to your life situation.

maybe God is saying to me that this storm im in will pass after ive died and risen. lol
 
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Hi all. About 6 months ago I came to live in a christian conference centre as a volunteer. when I arrived I went to a prayer ministry session and an image was given to someone for me.

the image was an egg in a furnace. 3 days later my mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer.

i wonder if anyone here with a gift of discernment or prophecy can help me understand what God was saying through this image?

First of all, please accept my sympathies concerning your Mom. I'll keep you and her in my prayers.

One of the glaring problems with this vision/prophecy stuff is that pretty much anyone can say anything and call it a divine vision or prophecy. Who gets to interpret the "vision"? What qualifies them to do so? How do you know their interpretation is right? It's all guesswork, really, and blind faith in people who have done nothing to earn such faith.

Proximity in time or location doesn't equal correlation or causation. Let me explain: If a plane flies overhead at the same time a car accident occurs, are the two therefore related? Did the plane cause the accident? No. Did the car accident cause the plane to fly? Obviously not. So, what about this "vision" of an egg in a furnace? Is it related to your Mom's diagnosis? Her diagnosis being in proximity in time to your being told this "vision" doesn't, by itself, make them related any more than the plane flying over head caused the car accident (or vice versa).

Let me ask you: If God wants to communicate in a vision to you, why do it through someone else? Why wouldn't He just give you the vision directly? Why this roundabout procedure? God is not the Author of confusion, the Bible says (1 Corinthians 14:33). Why, then, would He communicate to you in a vision that you don't understand and the meaning of which is entirely unclear? Can you begin to see why you should be enormously skeptical of any "vision" or "prophecy" someone gives to you? This vision/prophecy stuff is prime ground for demonic deception and/or self-deception.
 
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First of all, please accept my sympathies concerning your Mom. I'll keep you and her in my prayers.

One of the glaring problems with this vision/prophecy stuff is that pretty much anyone can say anything and call it a divine vision or prophecy. Who gets to interpret the "vision"? What qualifies them to do so? How do you know their interpretation is right? It's all guesswork, really, and blind faith in people who have done nothing to earn such faith.

Proximity in time or location doesn't equal correlation or causation. Let me explain: If a plane flies overhead at the same time a car accident occurs, are the two therefore related? Did the plane cause the accident? No. Did the car accident cause the plane to fly? Obviously not. So, what about this "vision" of an egg in a furnace? Is it related to your Mom's diagnosis? Her diagnosis being in proximity in time to your being told this "vision" doesn't, by itself, make them related any more than the plane flying over head caused the car accident (or vice versa).

Let me ask you: If God wants to communicate in a vision to you, why do it through someone else? Why wouldn't He just give you the vision directly? Why this roundabout procedure? God is not the Author of confusion, the Bible says (1 Corinthians 14:33). Why, then, would He communicate to you in a vision that you don't understand and the meaning of which is entirely unclear? Can you begin to see why you should be enormously skeptical of any "vision" or "prophecy" someone gives to you? This vision/prophecy stuff is prime ground for demonic deception and/or self-deception.

Who knows, all I know is it must have been from God as the devil isnt omniscient, and the furnace prophecy precisely describes my current circumstances
 
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Yes cancer is a malady that can be tough to endure. It's curable of course... as is any dis-ease... but at the base of any cure is God, and the attitude that is it well with my soul. Please don't give up on anything or anyone. May God show you healing and quickly now. But may He give you wisdom along with the knowledge, and comfort.

 
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Hi all. About 6 months ago I came to live in a christian conference centre as a volunteer. when I arrived I went to a prayer ministry session and an image was given to someone for me.

the image was an egg in a furnace. 3 days later my mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer.

i wonder if anyone here with a gift of discernment or prophecy can help me understand what God was saying through this image?

An egg can not make it in a furnace. The only way to make it through the furnace of affliction, is if two become One, and walk together by faith.
 
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Who knows, all I know is it must have been from God as the devil isnt omniscient, and the furnace prophecy precisely describes my current circumstances

Well, Ben, I guess the questions are:

1.) Are you an egg?

Is this how God sees you? None of God's children are described in Scripture this way. Christians are called sheep (John 10:1-30), and children (Galatians 3:26), and joint-heirs with Christ (Romans 8:17); they are called saints, and priests, and kings (Revelation 1:5-6; 5:10; Ephesians 2:19); they are called ambassadors (2 Corinthians 5:20), and a sweet-smelling fragrance of Christ (2 Corinthians 2:15), and living letters of Christ (2 Corinthians 3:3) but no where in all of Scripture are they referred to as eggs. This vision doesn't seem very biblical, then, does it? It doesn't accord with how God describes His children in His word. This should give you good cause to be skeptical of the vision, I think.

2.) What happens to an egg in a furnace?

It's burnt to ash, of course; it is destroyed. Is this the fate of God's children? Are they to be destroyed by the difficulties they face? Not if God can help it. He's promised to work all things - good and bad - together for our good (Romans 8:28). He uses hardship and suffering to discipline us (Hebrews 12:5-12), to purify us (Isaiah 1:25; 1 Peter 1:7), and to strengthen us (1 Peter 5:10) but He does not ever intend that the trials and sorrows of life should destroy us. So, again, this "vision" doesn't stand up well to a comparison to Scripture which should make you very, very reluctant to give it any weight.

So, it isn't a matter of "Who knows?" You want to know if a thing is of God, you test it by the truth and light of His word. I just did, and your "vision" is shown to be at odds with what God says. Be wise: reject the "vision" for the nonsense that it is.
 
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Well, Ben, I guess the questions are:

1.) Are you an egg?

Is this how God sees you? None of God's children are described in Scripture this way. Christians are called sheep (John 10:1-30), and children (Galatians 3:26), and joint-heirs with Christ (Romans 8:17); they are called saints, and priests, and kings (Revelation 1:5-6; 5:10; Ephesians 2:19); they are called ambassadors (2 Corinthians 5:20), and a sweet-smelling fragrance of Christ (2 Corinthians 2:15), and living letters of Christ (2 Corinthians 3:3) but no where in all of Scripture are they referred to as eggs. This vision doesn't seem very biblical, then, does it? It doesn't accord with how God describes His children in His word. This should give you good cause to be skeptical of the vision, I think.

2.) What happens to an egg in a furnace?

It's burnt to ash, of course; it is destroyed. Is this the fate of God's children? Are they to be destroyed by the difficulties they face? Not if God can help it. He's promised to work all things - good and bad - together for our good (Romans 8:28). He uses hardship and suffering to discipline us (Hebrews 12:5-12), to purify us (Isaiah 1:25; 1 Peter 1:7), and to strengthen us (1 Peter 5:10) but He does not ever intend that the trials and sorrows of life should destroy us. So, again, this "vision" doesn't stand up well to a comparison to Scripture which should make you very, very reluctant to give it any weight.

So, it isn't a matter of "Who knows?" You want to know if a thing is of God, you test it by the truth and light of His word. I just did, and your "vision" is shown to be at odds with what God says. Be wise: reject the "vision" for the nonsense that it is.

maybe the egg is me, and God is saying that I wont survive without leaning on him through this fiery trial, also, the egg represents new life right? maybe God is saying that I will have a new begininng after this trial.
 
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maybe the egg is me, and God is saying that I wont survive without leaning on him through this fiery trial, also, the egg represents new life right? maybe God is saying that I will have a new begininng after this trial.

I've shown you from Scripture that your egg vision does not accord with what God says about His children. And you could have found the very same message about leaning on God in your Bible. Why, then, do you require a vision to communicate it to you? It is just like the devil to get a person to give weight to voices and proclamations outside of Scripture. You wouldn't be the first person to give ear to a message said to come from God but that diverges from His word. And if you aren't careful, if you ignore that divergence, you'll soon add yourself to that group of people the devil has deceived into believing that God's word may be added to, that His word is not sufficient to guide you and equip unto every good work. (2 Timothy 3:16-17)
 
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Hi all. About 6 months ago I came to live in a christian conference centre as a volunteer. when I arrived I went to a prayer ministry session and an image was given to someone for me.

the image was an egg in a furnace. 3 days later my mother was diagnosed with terminal cancer.

i wonder if anyone here with a gift of discernment or prophecy can help me understand what God was saying through this image?

It don't take much to discern someone is troubled...you was on here about
making that decision to quit your job and to go to that remote area to be a volunteer and be far from home and that your savings be lacking and that had you worrying and stuff.

I'd say you'd even more worried/concerned since your mom be battling cancer
and she's not doing good and you far from home and don't have a car and little money etc.
 
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