Air Force General Addresses Racial Slurs on Campus: 'You Should Be Outraged'
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Why does itmatter to us. It matters to the overall morale on the base and frankly is none of the general publics concern is it? At least in the context this speech was given...
Are you not supportive of the guy's message then?
Would it make racist remarks more pallatable if you undwrstood those aspects of the story.
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I suppose you missed the whole "gay waitress" story. And the Mizzou fiasco. And the host of other such stories which have been crafted based on fabricated events.
Personally I prefer General Officers who can think for themselves and are not just political hand-puppets.
Remind me again of how the Air Force is funded.
If this event actually occurred as reported, which I truly doubt, as opposed to another fabricated event designed specifically to prompt the reaction it got, then his words have merit. Until then he is just grandstanding.
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So, to be clear, you think the head of the Air Force Academy made this story up OR didn't check the facts, OR didn't investigate it himself. You do not trust the HEAD of the Air Force Academy to do his job.
That is what you believe happenned.
You, for REALLY real, think that.
Congratulations on living in both a post reality, post fact, AND post racism America. Let us know what this land of make believe is like. It sounds confusing and lovely.
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You should try and actually read someone's post before responding to it.
I never said that. I said, as with the story promoted by Dayna Morales, this story could very well be fabricated and for the same reasons. It makes the US military look bad, it can be used to promote an agenda, it can be used another attempt to discredit white Conservative/Republicans and President Trump.
I read the New York Times article and no where does it even mention whether the incident is being investigated to determine who committed the act, and why. I would think those would be two quite important questions, wouldn't you, means and intent?
But no, in today's age the facts of a case are not relevant. The charge alone is sufficient to not only to prompt but demand action. The default assumption, particularly since November 4th of last year, to any claim of racism is to accept the validity of the claim and grovel before the altar of self-righteous indignation. Because of course no one would ever fabricate any story designed to discredit their opposition. The lunatic left hates the US military, that has been obvious for decades.
It would be nice to know if anyone is checking the facts. You know, conducting an actual investigation as opposed to knee-jerk pandering.
Here you have me. No, I don't think he bothered to investigate the incident in any manner. Based on his words as published I believe he did exactly what political generals do, ran right out to deploy weapons-grade CYA in reaction to the accusation.
After reading not only the OP article, but the associated articles linked within, no, I don't. What are you making, an appeal to authority? The guy is a general therefore he can't be questioned?
From the OP article, quote:
"He then explicitly linked the discovery of the slurs to events like the demonstrations in Charlottesville, Va., where white supremacists marched with torches in August, and Ferguson, Mo., where the fatal shooting of a black teenager by a police officer in 2014 set off protests across the country. He said that these events formed a backdrop that had to be addressed, and that to think otherwise would be “tone deaf.”
There are two types of general officer in the United States military, warriors and political hacks. These comments clearly tell me the head of the Air Force Academy is a political hack. He is paying homage to two of the liberal/progressive left's most cherished and deified moments, the lie of Ferguson and the ascendance of Antifa as the new violent arm of the Democrat party. And he refers to both in the mandated manner, with complete disregard for the truth.
How very third-grade of you.
I never said that. I said, as with the story promoted by Dayna Morales, this story could very well be fabricated and for the same reasons. It makes the US military look bad, it can be used to promote an agenda, it can be used another attempt to discredit white Conservative/Republicans and President Trump.
I read the New York Times article and no where does it even mention whether the incident is being investigated to determine who committed the act, and why. I would think those would be two quite important questions, wouldn't you, means and intent?
But no, in today's age the facts of a case are not relevant. The charge alone is sufficient to not only to prompt but demand action. The default assumption, particularly since November 4th of last year, to any claim of racism is to accept the validity of the claim and grovel before the altar of self-righteous indignation. Because of course no one would ever fabricate any story designed to discredit their opposition. The lunatic left hates the US military, that has been obvious for decades.
It would be nice to know if anyone is checking the facts. You know, conducting an actual investigation as opposed to knee-jerk pandering.
Here you have me. No, I don't think he bothered to investigate the incident in any manner. Based on his words as published I believe he did exactly what political generals do, ran right out to deploy weapons-grade CYA in reaction to the accusation.
After reading not only the OP article, but the associated articles linked within, no, I don't. What are you making, an appeal to authority? The guy is a general therefore he can't be questioned?
From the OP article, quote:
"He then explicitly linked the discovery of the slurs to events like the demonstrations in Charlottesville, Va., where white supremacists marched with torches in August, and Ferguson, Mo., where the fatal shooting of a black teenager by a police officer in 2014 set off protests across the country. He said that these events formed a backdrop that had to be addressed, and that to think otherwise would be “tone deaf.”
There are two types of general officer in the United States military, warriors and political hacks. These comments clearly tell me the head of the Air Force Academy is a political hack. He is paying homage to two of the liberal/progressive left's most cherished and deified moments, the lie of Ferguson and the ascendance of Antifa as the new violent arm of the Democrat party. And he refers to both in the mandated manner, with complete disregard for the truth.
How very third-grade of you.
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An example to support my points. From The Root dot Com, quote:
"The students are part of a 10-month program to help them acclimate to life at the Air Force Academy, so, in a twisted sort of way, this is part of their training. While their parents have expressed concern and an investigation has been launched, none of that will change one basic fact: The U.S. military has a long, sordid, racist and violent history when it comes to the treatment of black soldiers. While this may be the first, this certainly won’t be the last, or worst, racial treatment these young people will receive should they choose to serve in the U.S. military."
Written by someone who predicates his views concerning the US Military based on watching Hollywood movies. The true hate and bigotry afoot today is firmly entrenched exactly where it has always been throughout the history of America, in the Democrat party and the progressive left.
"The students are part of a 10-month program to help them acclimate to life at the Air Force Academy, so, in a twisted sort of way, this is part of their training. While their parents have expressed concern and an investigation has been launched, none of that will change one basic fact: The U.S. military has a long, sordid, racist and violent history when it comes to the treatment of black soldiers. While this may be the first, this certainly won’t be the last, or worst, racial treatment these young people will receive should they choose to serve in the U.S. military."
Written by someone who predicates his views concerning the US Military based on watching Hollywood movies. The true hate and bigotry afoot today is firmly entrenched exactly where it has always been throughout the history of America, in the Democrat party and the progressive left.
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All of that could be true. But it's probably not. It fits into the victim narrative that right wingers feel is the sudden expressions of racism that are occurring more overtly due for the MOST part by a president who has no problems suggesting these thing. I recognize that those acts are being perpetrated by those more right wing than them. But shoving your head in the sand and second guessing every act of hate speech vandalism without a Senate subcommittee does little.
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Are you denying that the American military has had problems with racism in the past?
Regarding the stuff written on the white board - let's say for the sake of argument that it was a hoax. Does that make the spirit of the commander's admonition any less proper or correct?
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Should there be a different punishment than expulsion based on that?
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I don't think anyone could be quite that blind to historical fact, but just in case this 1943 instructional film "A Welcome to Britain" starring Bob Hope is somewhat informative (fair warning, the language is very 1940s) advising soon-to-be arriving US troops that there are "less social restrictions in this country" about racial intermingling (the example from the film being a little old (white) lady from Birmingham, England inviting Bob and the (black) corporal from Birmingham AL who shared the train compartment to tea if they're ever in town).
Ironically it's the scene before the bit about what is still the single largest danger to Americans in the UK - as the traffic drives on the left, the oncoming traffic if you step into the road will be approaching from the right rather than the left (although London and some other major cities have taken to painting "LOOK RIGHT", "LOOK LEFT" or "LOOK BOTH WAYS" on crossing points).
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I am denying the US Military is a racist institution, as the writer of the Root article asserts. You are just as likely to find racist within the ranks of Antifa, BLM, the DNC, Planned Parenthood, and NOW as you are anywhere else. Yet the only racism we are ever to be concerned with is the racism as constantly charged by the American left in regard to every issue in every instance made against everyone who may disagree with their ideology.
I understand that is the standard those on the left maintain, that even if an instance of supposed racism is proven to be a complete hoax we must all still be forced to confront it because you, and the collective at large, just know that is how white people really feel.
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That isn't Bob Hope.
As for the horrid racism you are attempting to attribute to this film, I think you need to watch it again.
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I'm not attributing any racism to the film, far from it. But the fact that the potential "issue" of more socially inclusive Brit civilians, and being black or white shouldn't make difference in green, or in general (if you follow me), makes the film ahead of the "mind the traffic" message is somewhat suggestive.
You're right about Bob Hope - he does make an appearance at one point, but the presenter is Burgess Meredith
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