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There are many such scriptures. Are you looking to make a specific point?
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TEN commandments = Commandments of God = moral Law of God
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There are many such scriptures. Are you looking to make a specific point?
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Actually there's not too many - and only one has been posted so far, by someone else.
The Point? >> YHWH'S Promise for health and freedom from sin and from disease is an integral part of the GOSPEL of JESUS, prophecied throughout the OLD TESTAMENT.
If you know of a reference in TORAH, PROPHETS, PSALMS concerning GOD'S PROTECTION of HEALTH,
that you believe is true,
that is what I was looking for.
>> A Promise of God that you believe is true today - a Promise in His Word of as you put it "benefits"....
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Jesus lists a few of them in Matt 19 - many of which not in your quote.
Still -- as we all know... it is a sin to take God's name in vain.. even though this too is not in your quote.
the OP on this thread helpful in seeing just what ARE included in the term "Commandments of God"
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It is my understanding that the 4th commandment as you referenced it - is also in the TEN Commandments -- Exodus 20:8-11
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That is not entirely true. Take a look at the 10th commandment - "thou shalt not covet" - this "thought crime" is neither a civil or criminal law in all of the OT or NT.
There is no such thing as " you coveted to now go to jail " in all of the OT or NT - and we all know it.
As even the well accepted sources such as the "Baptist Confession of Faith" and the "Westminster Confession of Faith" admit - in section 19 of those respective documents - the moral law of God is and has always been distinct from ceremonial and civil laws in that it is written on the heart - under the New Covenant.
As Christ points out in Matt 5 - the Holy Spirit always magnifies the Law - it never deletes it
The Old Covenant (as we see in Galatians 3) is of the form "obey and live".. "cursed is everyone who does not obey the law". In that context the LAW is external - on tablets of stone and as Paul says in Romans 3:19-20 it condemns "all the WORLD... every mouth". The Law external
The NEW Covenant as we see in the OT - Jeremiah 31:31-33 is the same Law -- internal .. "THIS IS the New Covenant ... I will WRITE My LAW on their HEART"
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Since the whole world, and most all religion of the world, ignores the commands of God the Creator Giver of Life,
and cannot see (the natural man cannot see) anything of heaven,
even when from God's Word, Eternal TRUTH, and Jesus Spoken,
not as if
anything special is needed except to be like little children, willing and trusting God,
but
the darkness of this world is all around us, and not many are willing and trusting enough to come to the LIGHT, even though the LIGHT came into the world to save the world --- what reason written ? "because their lives are evil" they hide from the LIGHT of GOD'S WORD.... and hate the LIGHT (and deny it) and call the TRUTH a lie, and call the lie TRUTH, so they can all (the whole world) go on living without changing... eventually with no conscience left after it is ignored for so long, unless God through Jesus grants mercy, to turn to Him and believe in Him and be saved in Him, by His Word, as written.
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hahaha - are you being funny on purpose ? the opposition was already in place before we were even born !Have a little patience - opposition will not be long in coming to this thread.
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Well it is true that opposing views existed a long time ago. But so far on this thread - we have not seen the standard "Ten Commandments nailed to the cross" or "Ten downsized to just the Nine" etc. It is coming.
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It is unbelievable to me that you didn't come up with the answer John gave. I even highlighted it in RED! Here it is again:
23 And this is His commandment: that we should believe on the name of His Son Jesus Christ and love one another
Is it too simple for you? You need a list to know what to do?
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That list of Ten Commands helps to separate the wheat from the tares, the sheep from the goats, the false from the true, fake Christians from those who truly love God.
See Matthew 7:21-23 for more details.
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No particular scripture, just my overall knowledge of blessings and curses outlined throughout the bible.
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Read Romans 7 and 8. In Romans 7 you will find that the commandments that say "not to covet" are called the "law of sin and death." Then in Romans 8:2 it says For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ, has SET ME FREE FROM THE LAW OF SIN AND DEATH.
So, tell me why?
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The tenth commandment is the first one from a human point of view, the first being the final result of obeying the law. The commandments begin with man and end with God.
The command not to covet was a stern warning to control one's thoughts and thus avert the bad actions that would certainly follow if one didn't. God always warns the people first, usually through his prophets. Here the warning is part of the law itself, so there should be no misunderstandings and thus no excuses.
Jesus did condemn 'thought crimes' during his ministry (during which the old covenant was still in force). He specifically noted hatred without cause as 'murder' and lust for a (married) woman as 'adultery' even though no act had been committed.
Also, the new covenant spoken of by Jeremiah wasn't "written on their hearts" until after the day of Pentecost when the Holy Spirit came into the church.
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Jesus came to save us from our sins, not to save us in our sins (see Matt. 1:21).
Again, see Matthew 7:21-23 for more details...
By the way, rudeness is not a fruit of the Spirit.
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How was I rude? I'm a teacher and point things out to people preaching law, like in a list. The law was the law of sin and death, which the law of the Spirit of life in Christ freed us from.
BTW I like what you said that Jesus came to save us FROM our sin, not to save us IN our sin. That was VERY GOOD. Gold star!
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A good example of what cannot be civil or ceremonial law. The Ten Commandments are moral law as Paul points out in Romans 7 - they define what sin IS. In Romans 3:19-20 they reveal the knowledge of what is sin.
Having hate in the heart - Matt 5 is forbidden but not enforced by civil law - not even pre-cross.
The Ten Commandments are and always have been the moral law of God ... it is still 'sin' to take God's name in vain. Romans 3:19-20 says that Law continues to condemn all mankind as sinners in need of the Gospel.
A detail that scholars on BOTH sides of the Sabbath issue admit to.
That would mean that the LAW in the heart makes NT Christians even more obedient to the TEN Commandments than the OT saints.
However - Moses and Elijah stand WITH Christ in glorified form in Matt 17 BEFORE the cross.
The "Two Gospel" doctrine suggests that they did that without our Gospel -- that two-Gospel solution is what Paul rejects in Gal 1:6-9.
Paul says - the one true Gospel "was preached to Abraham" Gal 3:8
What is more - in Ps 40:8 "I desire to do your will, my God; your law is within my heart.”
Ps 37
Depart from evil and do good,
So you will abide forever.
28 For the Lord loves justice
And does not forsake His godly ones;
They are preserved forever,
But the descendants of the wicked will be cut off.
29 The righteous will inherit the land
And dwell in it forever.
30 The mouth of the righteous utters wisdom,
And his tongue speaks justice.
31 The law of his God is in his heart;
His steps do not slip.
Ezek 36
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Ps 119
9 How can a young man cleanse his way?
By taking heed according to Your word.
10 With my whole heart I have sought You;
Oh, let me not wander from Your commandments!
11 Your word I have hidden in my heart,
That I might not sin against You.
Deut 6:6
4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one! 5 You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.
6 “And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. 7 You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up. 8 You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. 9 You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates.
Is 51:7
“Listen to Me, you who know righteousness,
You people in whose heart is My law:
Do not fear the reproach of men,
Nor be afraid of their insults.
Deut 30
4 If any of thine be driven out unto the outmost parts of heaven, from thence will the Lord thy God gather thee, and from thence will he fetch thee:
5 And the Lord thy God will bring thee into the land which thy fathers possessed, and thou shalt possess it; and he will do thee good, and multiply thee above thy fathers.
6 And the Lord thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the Lord thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Prov 7
2 Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.
3 Bind them upon thy fingers, write them upon the table of thine heart.
The Bible truth that the TEN Commandments are the moral law of God is a Bible detail accepted by scholars on BOTH sides of the Sabbath debate.
The Baptist Confession of Faith,
the Westminster Confession of Faith ,
D.L. Moody,
R.C Sproul,
Andy Stanley
Matthew Henry,
Thomas Watson
Eastern Orthodox Catechism
The Catholic Catechism.
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The ten commandments in the OT are the civil/criminal laws of God given to Israel through the Levitical priesthood.
The ten commandments in the NC ,expanded/fulfilled, are the moral laws of God given to the church through the Holy Spirit.
The theme of "Depart ye from evil, do what is good" encapsulates both.
Depart from evil = OC Law, written in the mind.
Do what is good= NC law, written in the heart and conscience.
The two are antithetical to each other. The moral component of the law was never forced on Israel, but it is binding on the church.
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I don't know that the 10 commandments even appear in the New Testament. Some of the laws dealing with morality do, but the laws dealing with rituals (keeping days) do not to my knowledge.
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