Can demons repent?

miknik5 · Feb 12, 2017

Aryeh said:
You likely mean, "can demons repent AND be saved/make it to heaven?"

Demons can repent. But, they have no savior. They aren't human; they are disembodied souls of hybrid abominations. They are DOOMED to wander, looking for physical vessels to possess - because of their angelic fathers.

If there ever was a purgatory, they are stuck there. Literally in between life and death.

This is why Legion, for example, was happy to be sent into the vessels of swine. ANY vessel is better than being sent to their fathers in chains, or wandering the medium between physical life and spiritual death.

No that's not true

You forgot that its those demons who are cast out now

And you forgot it's those demons who already know they won't have salvation

And you forgot it's those demons who said to HIM:

1.We know who you are, THE HOLY ONE of GOD ( showing that they knew HIM already but still had no option of asking HIM forgiveness)
And as well said 2. have you come to destroy us before the time? (showing they know there is a day set for their destruction)

sdowney717 · Feb 12, 2017

Demons can not repent.
God must grant them to repent, just like with people.
No one can just choose to repent. Coming to faith in Christ must be granted to you personally.
And God did not send Christ to save angels. They have no recourse to salvation through Christ.
Hebrews 2:16
For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham.

God granting that things take place is according to His will for the situation.
John 6:65
And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”

Acts 11:18
When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.”

Acts 27:24
saying, ‘Do not be afraid, Paul; you must be brought before Caesar; and indeed God has granted you all those who sail with you.’

Philippians 1:29
For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,

2 Timothy 1:18
The Lord grant to him that he may find mercy from the Lord in that Day—and you know very well how many ways he ministered to me at Ephesus.

2 Timothy 2:25
in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth,

Philemon 1:22
But, meanwhile, also prepare a guest room for me, for I trust that through your prayers I shall be granted to you.

Aryeh · Feb 12, 2017

miknik5 said:
No that's not true

You forgot that its those demons who are cast out now

And you forgot it's those demons who already know they won't have salvation

And you forgot it's those demons who said to HIM:

1.We know who you are, THE HOLY ONE of GOD ( showing that they knew HIM already but still had no option of asking HIM forgiveness)
And as well said 2. have you come to destroy us before the time? (showing they know there is a day set for their destruction)

Are we equating demons with fallen angels? Because, they aren't the same.

The fallen are in chains right now.

Strathos · Feb 12, 2017

sdowney717 said:
Demons can not repent.
God must grant them to repent, just like with people.
No one can just choose to repent. Coming to faith in Christ must be granted to you personally.
And God did not send Christ to save angels. They have no recourse to salvation through Christ.
Hebrews 2:16
For indeed He does not give aid to angels, but He does give aid to the seed of Abraham.

God granting that things take place is according to His will for the situation.
John 6:65
And He said, “Therefore I have said to you that no one can come to Me unless it has been granted to him by My Father.”

Acts 11:18
When they heard these things they became silent; and they glorified God, saying, “Then God has also granted to the Gentiles repentance to life.”

Acts 27:24
saying, ‘Do not be afraid, Paul; you must be brought before Caesar; and indeed God has granted you all those who sail with you.’

Philippians 1:29
For to you it has been granted on behalf of Christ, not only to believe in Him, but also to suffer for His sake,

2 Timothy 1:18
The Lord grant to him that he may find mercy from the Lord in that Day—and you know very well how many ways he ministered to me at Ephesus.

2 Timothy 2:25
in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth,

Philemon 1:22
But, meanwhile, also prepare a guest room for me, for I trust that through your prayers I shall be granted to you.

Interesting. The next obvious question would be then, why does God not offer them a chance to repent?

miknik5 · Feb 12, 2017

Aryeh said:
Are we equating demons with fallen angels? Because, they aren't the same.

The fallen are in chains right now.

Oh yeah they are

Aryeh · Feb 12, 2017

miknik5 said:
Oh yeah they are

Ok. Well this is where we fundamentally disagree. I also believe demons are disembodied spirits of the abominable union between woman and angel.

Are you of the camp that think the sons of God are Sethites, or do you believe they were angels?

brinny · Feb 12, 2017

Can demons repent?

Strathos said:
Obviously Satan can't, since his fate is already predestined, but what about other demons?

Strathos said:
If they had the free will to defy God and follow Satan, couldn't they also use that free will to reject Satan and come back to God?

Did Jesus the Christ, the only begotten Son of the living God, shed His blood and die for them?

Aryeh · Feb 12, 2017

brinny said:
Can demons repent?

Did Jesus the Christ, the only begotten Son of the living God, shed His blood and die for them?

Exactly. It doesn't matter if they repent; they have no savior. And, by Universal Law of God, anything that breaks His law is cast out, and must die. So, it is a moot activity. This is likely why we don't hear of any demons actually begging for salvational mercy - they know it is futile.

brinny · Feb 12, 2017

Aryeh said:
Exactly. It doesn't matter if they repent; they have no savior. And, by Universal Law of God, anything that breaks His law is cast out, and must die. So, it is a moot activity. This is likely why we don't hear of any demons actually begging for salvational mercy - they know it is futile.

Exactly.

Jesus Christ was very clear about why He was shedding His blood and for whom He was dying.

miknik5 · Feb 12, 2017

Aryeh said:
Ok. Well this is where we fundamentally disagree. I also believe demons are disembodied spirits of the abominable union between woman and angel.

Are you of the camp that think the sons of God are Sethites, or do you believe they were angels?

how do disembodied spirits make themselves manifested but in a visible vessel

Which is exactly what they did in the man with many demons then in the pigs in which they were cast into

Aryeh · Feb 12, 2017

miknik5 said:
The fallen are not in chains right now

Only those who died in the flood who mixed the seed of man with fallen angels

how do disembodied spirits make themselves manifested but in a visible vessel

Which is exactly what they did in the man amd then in the pigs in which they were cast into

No prob, I am not going to argue when we so fundamentally disagree. We would be going on for pages, and I don't want to.

miknik5 · Feb 12, 2017

unfortunately the men of that town made the wrong judgement and sent the ONE who has power and authority over all temporal things and who was the BERY ONE who healed the man away from their town because the pigs acted so out of their natural design that it frightened them

Yet the man who had been that way for many years finally healed was overlooked?

miknik5 · Feb 12, 2017

Commonplace sometimes loses its profound affect

Aryeh · Feb 12, 2017

Aryeh said:
Exactly. It doesn't matter if they repent; they have no savior. And, by Universal Law of God, anything that breaks His law is cast out, and must die. So, it is a moot activity. This is likely why we don't hear of any demons actually begging for salvational mercy - they know it is futile.

Saying the first two sentences out loud really brings home their hopelessness. No wonder they are so vicious - they feel screwed by their fathers for giving them a spirit that is forced to roam, and they feel screwed by GOD because, despite being half human they can't ever share in human salvation.

miknik5 · Feb 12, 2017

brinny said:
Exactly.

Jesus Christ was very clear about why He was shedding His blood and for whom He was dying.

hi brinny!

miknik5 · Feb 12, 2017

Aryeh said:
Saying the first two sentences out loud really brings home their hopelessness. No wonder they are so vicious - they feel screwed by their fathers for giving them a spirit that is forced to roam, and they feel screwed by GOD because, despite being half human they can't ever share in human salvation.

Aww!

They should have done what they were called to do from the beginning

miknik5 · Feb 12, 2017

Aryeh said:
Saying the first two sentences out loud really brings home their hopelessness. No wonder they are so vicious - they feel screwed by their fathers for giving them a spirit that is forced to roam, and they feel screwed by GOD because, despite being half human they can't ever share in human salvation.

Half human?

Who told them to rebel even further by mixing with the seed of the sons of men?

Those, by the way, were fully destroyed

miknik5 · Feb 12, 2017

The flood took care of those fallen angels

Now they are the spirits of demons who look to manifest themselves in whatever vessel they choose

There are no hybrids

So stop that lie

brinny · Feb 12, 2017

miknik5 said:
hi brinny!

Hi!!!!!!

JohnKing67 · Feb 16, 2017

Strathos said:
Obviously Satan can't, since his fate is already predestined, but what about other demons?

If they had the free will to defy God and follow Satan, couldn't they also use that free will to reject Satan and come back to God?

no, because salvation is only available to fallen humanity, not fallen spirits.

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