Chronology of the Passion Week - The Timing of Christ's Death, Resurrection, & Ascension.

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this isn't a dividing issue...

Sorry, but again I have to differ with you tremendously.
The 'issue' divides Seventh Day Sabbatharians; and it divides them from Sunday believing Christians.
It requires external, non-Biblical <evidence>; it makes the Scripture so to speak redundant and superfluous.
It demands suppression of the simple and unambiguous and 100% clear Bible words and facts (as you can see).
It casts a reflection of Jesus' integrity for so often having quoted and referred to the God-given and therefore eschatological imperative whole and wholeness of the "three days", "on the third" of which "Christ according to the Scriptures" HAD TO rise from the dead and grave "on the Sabbath" -- "the third day" which HAD TO be "the day after the Preparation ... and late on the Sabbath Day before the First Day of the week", because "thus it behoved / honoured the Christ". Matthew 27:62; 28:1. Sola Scriptura!
 
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When we see a king say, "come back AFTER 3 days" and then those being told this come back ON the third day and this is acceptable to the king.... then there is some abstractness to the statements.

Ably stated, correctly! Thanks.
Compare Hosea 6 though, where (LXX) "after" is "after two days -- on the third day".
 
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as for Sunday and Monday missing in my chronology: It is not an exhaustive chronology. Those days still exist. I am only covering the days when I think something of signficance is worth mentioning.

The Gospels <thought> it of significance and worth mentioning EVERY day of Jesus' Last Week, 'Holy Week',

Last Week / ‘Holy Week’

Sabbath
"Six days before passover Feast Days" John 12:1 (… begin on Friday)

(Palm Sunday)
Five days before "Feast Days" John 12:12 (… begin on Friday)

(Monday)
Four days before "Feast Days" (… begin on Friday)
Mark 11:12 Matthew 21:18 Mark 11:15 Luke 19:45-48 Mark 11:19

(Tuesday)
THREE days before "Feast Days" (… begin on Friday)
Mark 11:20,21,27 Matthew 22:23 Luke 20:1-8 Mark 13:1,3
= Matthew 26:2 "after TWO days (Wednesday Thursday) is Passover
= “Son of Man CRUCIFIED" (… on Thursday)

(Wednesday)
TWO days before "Feast Days" (… begin on Friday)
Luke 21:38 Matthew 26:3
= Mark 14:1-3 "after TWO days (Thursday Friday) is Feast
= “Days of UNLEAVENED Bread" (… begin on Friday)

(Thursday—Wednesday night and Thursday day, the Fifth Day)
One day before "Feast Days" (… begin on Friday)
= “BEFORE the Feast” John 13:1
= “PREPARATION of the Passover” John 19:14
= “NOT ON, the Feast” Mark 14:2
= “WHEN they KILLED the passover…
= “WHEN they REMOVED leaven”
= Mark 14:12 Matthew 26:17 Luke 22:7 Exodus 12:15a
= Abib 14 (Thursday Abib 14)

(Friday)
“The Feast of Unleavened Bread” Exodus 12:15b (… began on Friday)
= “The Preparation …
= “… which is the Foresabbath …
= “… for THAT DAY WAS great day of sabbath” of passover.
 
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Last Passover Suffering of Jesus Christ
Father, glorify thy Son
A chronological and logical, historic synopsis of the four Gospels, interlinear Ebersöhn / Greek / KJV
A) Towards the Last Week
(Ordered after Jesus' Last Great Journey)
Dedication of the temple in Jerusalem
John 10:22-39 "it was winter"; "he walked out of their hand" (1)
Away to the upper Jordan
John 10:40-42 (2)
Over Tyre and Sidon
Mark 7:24(-30) "to the regions in Tyre" (2)
Matthew 15:21(-28) to parts of Tyre and Sidon (2)
To Decapolis (after healing of the deaf) [Mt9:32-34]
Mark 7:31-37 "departed from Tyre and passed through Sidon by die Sea of Galilee in die regions of Decapolis (3)
In regions of Dalmanutha (after feeding of the 4000) [Lk9:18-20]
Mark 8: (1-)10 "arrived in the regions of Dalmanutha (3)
In regions of Magdala
Matthew 15: (29-)39 (3)
In Bethsaida
Mark 8:22-26 "came in Bethsaida" (3)
To Caesarea-Philippi
Mark 8:26(-31) "to the towns of Caesarea-Philippi" (4)
Matthew 16:13-28 "to the regions of Caesarea-Philippi"; "Whom do men say that I am" (4)
Luke 9:18-20 "Whom say people that I am?" (6)

Capernaum
Matthew 17: ...24 (before verse 1) in Capernaum (7)
Transfigured on a high mountain
Mark 9:2(-13) on a high mountain (7)
Matthew 17:1(-8) high mountain, 3 disciples apart (7)
Returning through Galilee and Samaria
Mark 9:30,31 from there through Galilee (8)
Matthew 17:...22,23... returning back in Galile (8)
Luke 17:11(-28) on the way to Jerusalem; in the middle of Samaria and Galilee (9)
Having heard Lazarus was sick
John 11:1-16 sent for Jesus to tell him (9)
On the way to Jerusalem : Along the Jordan to Judaea
Mark 10:1(-)28 comes to the regions of Judaea (12)
Matthew 19:1; 27-30 Judaea against the Jordan (12)
Mark 10:32-34 on the way going up to Jerusalem (13)
Matthew 20:17-19 almost time for Jesus to be at Jerusalem (14)
Luke 18:31-34 We return to Jerusalem (15)
Jericho and the blind [Joshua 6:26]
Luke 18:35(-43) approached Jericho [one blind] (15)
Luke 19:1-10 passed through Jericho; Zacchaeus [Hb11:] (17)
Mark 10:46-52 going out of Jericho; Bartimaeus (19)
Matthew 20:29-34 going out of Jericho (20)
In Bethany : Lazarus raised; Bethany
John 11:17-53 four days in the grave. Bethany was near Jerusalem (22)
Away to rural town Ephraim
John 11:54-57 departed from there to Ephraim; passover was near (28)
Between Bethany and Jerusalem
“Six days before feast days of passover” : Sabbath [9th day of First Month]
John 12:1-11 “Six days before feast days of passover” (29)

B) The Last Week (sequence to day and hour)
Palm-Sunday : Entrance into Jerusalem : 5 days before Abib 15 is Abib 10
“Tenth day of the First Month” Exodus 12:3 Ezekiel 40:1 “Bone Day”
John 12:12-19 “the next day” (32)
= Mark 11:1-11 Bethania; entered Jerusalem; entered temple; late unto Bethany (33)
= Matthew 21:1-11 Bethphage; Jerusalem in (36)
= Luke 19:28-44 Bethphage and Bethany; into Jerusalem (38)

Last Week: Monday : 4 days before Abib 15 is Abib 11
Mark 11:12-14 “the morrow Bethany ... fig tree” (41)
= Luke 21:29-33 “behold the fig tree” (41)
Mark 11:15-17 “into temple”; “cast out them that sold”; “moneychangers”; “house of prayer” (42)
= Matthew 21:12-14 “into the temple ... cast out them that sold” (43)
= Luke 19:45,46 “into the temple ... cast out them that sold ... house of prayer” (43)
= Matthew 21:15-17 “children in the temple” (44)
= John 12:20-26 “Greeks … corn of wheat … for this cause I came”: 27 (44)
Mark 11:18 “sought how they might destroy him” (45)
= Luke 19:47,48 “sought to destroy him” (46)
Mark 11:19 “late ... he went out of the city” (46)
= Matthew 21:17 “out of the city into Bethany ... slept in sheepfold” (46)

Last Week: Tuesday : TEACHING 3 days before (Friday) Abib 15 is Abib 12
Mark 11:20 “early ... fig tree dried up” (47)
= Matthew 21:18-22; 45,46 “in the morning ... fig tree” cursed and “immediately dried up” (47)
Mark 11:27,28 “in Jerusalem in temple ... by what authority” (48)
= Matthew 21:23-25 “in temple ... what authority” (49)
= Luke 20:1-8 “one of Those Days ... what authority” (50)
Mark 12:35-37 “Jesus in the temple ... David” (51)
= Matthew 22:23; 41-46 “the Same Day” (52)
= Matthew 24:1-3 “out of temple … not be left one stone … on Mount of Olives disciples came privately” (53)
= Matthew 26:1-2 “after two day ... crucified” (53)
= John 12:27-36 “this hour ... if I be lifted up from the earth” (54)
= Luke 21:34-38 “on One of Those Days ... Watch that That Day come not upon you unawares” (56)

Last Week: Wednesday : 2 days before (Friday) Abib 15 is Abib 13
Mark 14:1,2 “after two days was the unleavened (days)”“sought how might take him ... not on feast” (57)
= Matthew 26:3-5 “consulted that they might take Jesus ... not on feast” (57)
= Luke 22:1,2 “feast drew near ... sought how” (58)
Mark 14:3-9 “house of Simon .. spikenard on head” (58)
= Matteus 26:6-13 “house of Simon .. spikenard on head” (59)
Mark 14:10,11 “Judas to priests ... promised him money” (61)
= Matthew 26:14-16 “Judas to priests ... covenanted thirty pieces silver” (61)
= Luke 22:3-6 “satan in Judas ... communed with priests ... covenanted money” (61)
= John 12:37-50 “he that rejecteth me ... receiveth not my words” (62)



B) Three days : "the first day"
Last Week
: Thursday Abib 14
was 1 day “before” (Friday) Abib 15 (69)
2Chronicles 35:4,6,10,14 “prepared passover … killed the passover
= Exodus 12:15a “when they removed leaven”
= Leviticus 23:22,10 “when ye reap the corners ... bring the first sheaf”
Mark 14:12—15:41 “when they always killed the passover”
= Luke 22:7—23:49 “when they had to kill the passover”
= Mark 14:2 “not on the feast”
= Matthew 26:5 “not on the feast”
= John 19:14-30 “The Preparation of the Passover”
= Matthew 26:17—27:56 “the first day leaven was removed / the first day without leaven”
= John 12:32,34; 8:28 “the Son of Man must be lifted up”
= John 13:1—19:30 “before the feast ... his hour ... it was night ...”
= 1Corinthians 11:23 "The night in which the Lord was betrayed"
= John 16:32 “the hour ... ye shall be scattered every man”

Three daysthe second of :
= “the first day seven days ye shall eat unleavened bread” Exodus 12:15b; 12:18b Leviticus 23:6
= Last Week: Friday : Feast Day Sabbath of Passover was “Abib 15” (Friday)
Exodus 12:15,17,18,42,51
Mark 15:42-47 “having been evening already … since The Preparation which is the Fore-Sabbath having begun”
= John 19:31-42 “since the Preparation had begun ... because That Day was great-day-of-sabbath (of passover)”
= Matthew 27:57-61
= Luke 23:50-56a
 
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If she bought spices on Sunday morning at dark, the Scriptures would have said, the first day of the week after the Sabbath past, she went and bought spices and came unto the sepulchre. But the Scriptures do not say that. The Scriptures say that the first day of the week begins after she bought the spices.

Sorry, but you are simply wrong. There is no need <<the Scriptures would have said, the first day of the week after the Sabbath past>>. It was the First Day of the week its evening when "the Sabbath had gone through" [diagenomenou tou sabbatou] and the three women, then, "bought spices".
 
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Sorry, but you are simply wrong. There is no need <<the Scriptures would have said, the first day of the week after the Sabbath past>>. It was the First Day of the week its evening when "the Sabbath had gone through" [diagenomenou tou sabbatou] and the three women, then, "bought spices".

Early Sunday morning, it was dark out when they came to the empty tomb. Mary bought the spices. The Scriptures also say that Mary and the others prepared the spices. So you are telling me that they bought spices and prepared them after the Saturday Sabbath at nightfall when the new day began? Did spice shops open at nightfall after the Saturday Sabbath or did they open early in the morning? While anything is possible, it just seems unlikely that such a thing happened.


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He was placed in tomb around 6pm(sunset) on Wednesday and at sunset on Saturday night he rose, which was considered the 1st day of the week, since a new day started at sunset and fulfilled the 3 days/3 nights. All 4 gospels said he rose early in the morning on the 1st day of the week, not at sunrise. They came at sunrise to see he was already gone.

He died @ 3pm on Wed and was placed in the grave right before sunset and rose right after sunset on 1st day of the week.
Wed 6PM-Thur 6PM= 1 night/1day
Thur 6PM-Fri 6PM= 1 night/1day
Fri 6PM-Sat 6PM= 1 night/1day


So you have 3 full days & 3 full nights. Jesus gave 1 sign and 1 sign only and it was he was going to be in the grave 3 days and 3 nights. If he wasnt in the grave 3 days & 3 nights aka Fri-Sun, HE IS NOT THE MESSIAH.

(3 days/3 nights)
14th Wednesday- Died @ 3PM and placed in grave right before sunset 6pm
15th Thursday- Sabbath(Feast of Unleavened Bread) No work allowed
16th Friday- Bought Spices to anoint the body
17th Saturday Sabbath- No work allowed & went to get more spices after the Sabbath & he Rose from the grave after sunset @ 6pm on 1st day of the week when Sabbath was over

If Jesus wasnt referring to a full 3 days and 3 nights, the best would be a Thursday
(3 days)
14th Thursday Died @ 3PM and placed in grave right before sunset 6pm
15th Friday-Sabbath(Feast of Unleavened Bread): No work allowed
16th Saturday-Sabbath: No work allowed
17th Sunday -went to get more spices after the Sabbath & Rose from the Grave after the sun went down Saturday, so this is early on the 1st day of the week.
 
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All 4 gospels said he rose early in the morning on the 1st day of the week, not at sunrise. They came at sunrise to see he was already gone.

Which verses are you referring to within the 4 gospels that say Jesus rose on the early morning of the 1st day of the week?



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It implies the need to understand the time of day or night correctly in John 20:1,2.

John 20:1,2 is a LITERAL, MUST!

It does not say, <<when it was yet still dark out>>...in the morning. (Jason)

It reads, "on the First Day of the week early of dark (of night) still being" [proh-i skotias eti ousehs] which is evening or dusk after sunset.
Mary's first sight of the "STONE moved away", sets all the subsequent movements during that 'Saturday' night in motion.
 
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It implies the need to understand the time of day or night correctly in John 20:1,2.

John 20:1,2 is a LITERAL, MUST!

It does not say, <<when it was yet still dark out>>...in the morning. (Jason)

It reads, "on the First Day of the week early of dark (of night) still being" [proh-i skotias eti ousehs] which is evening or dusk after sunset.
Mary's first sight of the "STONE moved away", sets all the subsequent movements during that 'Saturday' night in motion.

Sorry, I just read and believe my Bible. It says it was dark out
(and I believe that).

Besides, a Thursday crucifixion does not even work with a nightfall to nightfall Jewish day reckoning. For the Old Testament clearly tells us that they celebrated the Weekly Passover with the days being from nightfall to nightfall.

Day #0 - Thursday - Jesus dies at 3:00PM and placed in the tomb at 6:00PM.
Day #1 - Friday begins - (Thursday nightfall). The 15th High Sabbath.
Day #2 - Saturday begins (Friday nightfall) the 16th - Weekly Sabbath.
Day #3 - Sunday (17th) at 3:00PM would be 72 hours exactly from Christ's death (With the essence of Christ's spirit (who is GOD) being in the heart of the Earth for 3 days and 3 nights). If you were to count His being in the Earth starting with His body going into the tomb, it would be 6:00PM on Sunday. But neither 3:00PM, nor 6:00PM makes any sense because Mary and the others arrived early Sunday morning when it was still dark out.

Side Note: Thursday is Day #0 because there were only 3 hours left within that day. It was not a full 12 hours of daylight or a counting of full daytime hours. For Jesus Himself said there were 12 hours in a day.

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He died @ 3pm on Wed and was placed in the grave right before sunset and rose right after sunset on 1st day of the week.

Jesus did NOT <<die @ 3pm on Wed>>;

He was NOT <<placed in the grave right before sunset>>; and

He did NOT rise <<right after sunset on 1st day of the week>>, simply for two reasons, 1) for the LACK of Scripture for any of these three arrogations; 2) for the ABUNDANCE of Scriptures for the fact He rose, quote, "ON THE SABBATH when there was a great earthquake ... and the angel of the Lord cast the stone away from the tomb and sat on it" in solidarity with God who when He had raised Christ from the dead, “by the exceeding greatness of his power worked and wrought and finished”, “all the works of God and rested the Seventh Day from all his works which He had done" THROUGH CHRIST IN HIS RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD.
 
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Sorry, I just read and believe my Bible. It says it was dark out
(and I believe that).

It does NOT. Or _your_ Bible, yes; it is to be expected it would say in the morning daybreak or as you say it, <<it was dark out>>. Because it must get the Resurrection on Sunday. Simple; simply dishonest and lying.
 
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It does NOT.

It sure does.

"The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre." (John 20:1).


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Jesus did NOT <<die @ 3pm on Wed>>;

He was NOT <<placed in the grave right before sunset>>; and

He did NOT rise <<right after sunset on 1st day of the week>>, simply for two reasons, 1) for the LACK of Scripture for any of these three arrogations; 2) for the ABUNDANCE of Scriptures for the fact He rose, quote, "ON THE SABBATH when there was a great earthquake ... and the angel of the Lord cast the stone away from the tomb and sat on it" in solidarity with God who when He had raised Christ from the dead, “by the exceeding greatness of his power worked and wrought and finished”, “all the works of God and rested the Seventh Day from all his works which He had done" THROUGH CHRIST IN HIS RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD.

But Jesus did die at 3:00PM.

The Bible says,

46 "At about three o’clock, Jesus called out with a loud voice, “Eli, Eli, lema sabachthani?” which means “My God, my God, why have you abandoned me?”
47 Some of the bystanders misunderstood and thought he was calling for the prophet Elijah.
48 One of them ran and filled a sponge with sour wine, holding it up to him on a reed stick so he could drink.
49 But the rest said, “Wait! Let’s see whether Elijah comes to save him.”
50 Then Jesus shouted out again, and he released his spirit."
(Matthew 27:46-50 NLT).


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a Thursday crucifixion does not even work with a nightfall to nightfall Jewish day reckoning. For the Old Testament clearly tells us that they celebrated the Weekly Passover with the days being from nightfall to nightfall.

HUH?!
 
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Day #0. - Thursday - Jesus dies at 3:00PM and placed in the tomb at 6:00PM.
Day #1 - Friday begins - (Thursday nightfall). The 15th High Sabbath.
Day #2 - Saturday begins (Friday nightfall) the 16th - Weekly Sabbath.
Day #3 - Sunday (17th) at 3:00PM would be 72 hours exactly from Christ's death

Scripture?
NONE!
 
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Jason, do you actually read what I send or do you look for soundbites you think you can take a position against? You have already pointed out a sunset to sunset day in Scripture and did you catch my reply? I said, "My family follows the biblical calendar." That means sunset to sunset is a day, new moon is a new month, half a moon is 7th day, full moon 14th, etc. We have been doing this for more than a decade.

Could you please go back to my last post and address it? You claim "3 days and nights" MUST BE 72 hours and I said you are imposing modern specificity on a culture that was not as exact as we are. Please read the verses, see what is being said, PROVE I am wrong or alter your view... but don't ignore it. Thanks.

This is not an issue of salvation, whereby I have to refute each of your points. This is not an issue of salvation. For would you read a ton of false information that you know is 100% wrong so as to refute it when it does not truly matter all that much?

Did you look at the article link I sent you?


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If you were to count His being in the Earth starting with His body going into the tomb, it would be 6:00PM on Sunday. But neither 3:00PM, nor 6:00PM makes any sense because Mary and the others arrived early Sunday morning when it was still dark out.

I do not and the Scriptures do not <<count His being in the Earth starting with His body going into the tomb>>. You are presuming a FALSE supposition.
 
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The author of the article makes some great points in Scripture (that are irrefutable) for a nightfall to nightfall reckoning.

Day begins at Evening
(Which I believe helps a little to clear up the confusion on somebody's understanding on the Passion Week).

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