Was Yeshua saved by the Law of God?

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Yep... tempted but never sinned because He knew the Law of God and obeyed it perfectly.. thus was saved from sin.
To be "saved from sin" requires sin to be our master and we its slave. It has us in bondage. It has a claim on our lives and demands our death. That is why we need to be saved from it. Since Yeshua never sinned, he was never in bondage to it nor a slave of it. Therefore, he did NOT need to be saved from sin.
 
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To be "saved from sin" requires sin to be our master and we its slave. It has us in bondage. It has a claim on our lives and demands our death. That is why we need to be saved from it. Since Yeshua never sinned, he was never in bondage to it nor a slave of it. Therefore, he did NOT need to be saved from sin.
If I catch you before you fall, have I saved you from falling?
 
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If I catch you before you fall, have I saved you from falling?
If we were having a conversation and you suddenly grabbed me and said, "Whew, I just saved you from falling", then no, you didn't save me from falling. If I was about to face plant, then yes, you saved me from falling.

This example concerns a living being saving another living being. To relate this to the OP, it would be more correct to say Yeshua kept himself from sin by choosing to obey the Law. The Law points out sin. It doesn't save. YHWH and Yeshua save.
 
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If we were having a conversation and you suddenly grabbed me and said, "Whew, I just saved you from falling", then no, you didn't save me from falling. If I was about to face plant, then yes, you saved me from falling.

This example concerns a living being saving another living being. To relate this to the OP, it would be more correct to say Yeshua kept himself from sin by choosing to obey the Law. The Law points out sin. It doesn't save. YHWH and Yeshua save.
Because the Law is in place there is a "this far and no further" which saves us all from the bottomless pit. Yeshua was saved by the obedience to the Law. It is like a "bridge out" sign, it saves us from going into the creek.
 
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I say YES!!!! It was His proof of innocence. It was what lead Him on the sinless life.
More importantly it was proof of His Oneness as Adonai
Yeshua is the Word of GOD
Isaiah 7:14
"Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel.

Matthew 1:23
"The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call Him Immanuel" (which means "God with us").

Isaiah 43:25
"I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, And I will not remember your sins.

Mark 2:6-8
5 Seeing their trust, Yeshua said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.”
6 Some Torah-teachers sitting there thought to themselves,
7 “How can this fellow say such a thing? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins except God?
8 But immediately Yeshua, perceiving in His spirit what they were thinking, said to them, “Why are you thinking these
things?

John 20:27-28
27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.”
28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!

John 1:14
The Word became a human being and lived with us, and we saw his Sh’khinah, the Sh’khinah of the Father’s only Son, full of grace and truth.

Hebrews 1:3
This Son is the radiance of the Sh’khinah, the very expression of God’s Essence, upholding all that exists by His powerful Word; and after He had, through Himself, made purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of HaG’dulah BaM’romim.

Adonai Yeshua is the personal manifestation of YHWH Elohim in the flesh


 
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More importantly it was proof of His Oneness as Adonai
Yeshua is the Word of GOD
Isaiah 7:14
"Therefore the Lord Himself will give you a sign: Behold, a virgin will be with child and bear a son, and she will call His name Immanuel.

Matthew 1:23
"The virgin will conceive and give birth to a son, and they will call Him Immanuel" (which means "God with us").
This name is to be understood in the light of Acts 10:38; "How [Yahweh] anointed Yeshua of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for [Yahweh] (El) was with him." Not that Yeshua was El, but that El was with and in Yeshua.

Isaiah 43:25
"I, even I, am the one who wipes out your transgressions for My own sake, And I will not remember your sins.

Mark 2:6-8
5 Seeing their trust, Yeshua said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.”
6 Some Torah-teachers sitting there thought to themselves,
7 “How can this fellow say such a thing? He is blaspheming! Who can forgive sins except God?
8 But immediately Yeshua, perceiving in His spirit what they were thinking, said to them, “Why are you thinking these
things?
Yeshua could forgive sin because a greater being (YHWH) gave him that authority.

John 20:27-28
27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here, and see my hands; and put out your hand, and place it in my side. Do not disbelieve, but believe.”
28 Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!
Thomas did not speak English. Therefore, he did not use the word "God". He most likely spoke Hebrew and used the word "elohim" in the sense Psalm 82:6 uses it of men. "Adoni Eli"

John 1:14
The Word became a human being and lived with us, and we saw his Sh’khinah, the Sh’khinah of the Father’s only Son, full of grace and truth.
Not the glory of God, but of His Son.

Hebrews 1:3
This Son is the radiance of the Sh’khinah, the very expression of God’s Essence, upholding all that exists by His powerful Word; and after He had, through Himself, made purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of HaG’dulah BaM’romim.
"Expression"/"image" of God, not God Himself. My son is the expression of me, but he is not me. A picture/image of an apple is not the apple itself.

Adonai Yeshua is the personal manifestation of YHWH Elohim in the flesh
Father YHWH did NOT become Yeshua.
 
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Even God lives by His Law, and if Yeshua failed, the whole world of God is gone. There is more at stake than just saving us when Yeshua walked the earth. Satan if he could have caused Yeshua to sin, caused God to sin in the flesh, and thus proving the flaw in God. Perfection gone, Holy gone, Righteous gone, almighty gone, .....etc .... The Word was God
 
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Even God lives by His Law, and if Yeshua failed, the whole world of God is gone. There is more at stake than just saving us when Yeshua walked the earth. Satan if he could have caused Yeshua to sin, caused God to sin in the flesh, and thus proving the flaw in God. Perfection gone, Holy gone, Righteous gone, almighty gone, .....etc .... The Word was God
This is all assumption based on the erroneous belief that Yeshua was "God" in the same way the Father is "God". Satan's attempts to get Yeshua to sin were intended to disqualify him as being the Savior of the world, not to disqualify him as being "God". Yeshua was an elohim, not THE ELOHIM.
 
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This is all assumption based on the erroneous belief that Yeshua was "God" in the same way the Father is "God". Satan's attempts to get Yeshua to sin were intended to disqualify him as being the Savior of the world, not to disqualify him as being "God". Yeshua was an elohim, not THE ELOHIM.
Amazing disconnect. Yeshua, if He sinned did disqualify Him as God. That is Satan's argument, the law can not be obeyed, it is too restrictive. If Satan had won, and Yeshua, God in the flesh, sinned, the whole kingdom falls. It is a chain reaction of immense proportions that are hard to comprehend. But thankful it didn't happen because Yeshus was saved by the Law He kept.
 
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Amazing disconnect. Yeshua, if He sinned did disqualify Him as God. That is Satan's argument, the law can not be obeyed, it is too restrictive. If Satan had won, and Yeshua, God in the flesh, sinned, the whole kingdom falls. It is a chain reaction of immense proportions that are hard to comprehend. But thankful it didn't happen because Yeshus was saved by the Law He kept.
Obviously it is not too restrictive and could be obeyed since Yeshua did so. If he did so as God, then you again call upon his supposed divinity while a man.

Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

If he was sinless because he was God, then that leaves us hopeless to obey. When Yeshua told people to, "Go and sin no more," his words would be meaningless and impossible to do.
 
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Obviously it is not too restrictive and could be obeyed since Yeshua did so. If he did so as God, then you again call upon his supposed divinity while a man.

Heb 2:17 Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his brethren, that he might be a merciful and faithful high priest in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

If he was sinless because he was God, then that leaves us hopeless to obey. When Yeshua told people to, "Go and sin no more," his words would be meaningless and impossible to do.
Took on human flesh, God in the flesh, what part are you missing here... Have you disconnected God from God in the Flesh? I know that the mystery of God is hard and explaining the infinite to finite is difficult. But at the plain writing of "God in the Flesh" should be a solid keystone upon which if you "seen me you have seen the Father"...
 
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Took on human flesh, God in the flesh, what part are you missing here... Have you disconnected God from God in the Flesh? I know that the mystery of God is hard and explaining the infinite to finite is difficult. But at the plain writing of "God in the Flesh" should be a solid keystone upon which if you "seen me you have seen the Father"...
I am "missing" the part you are adding. I can't "disconnect" what was never connected in Scripture. You have turned the Son into his own God.
 
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I am "missing" the part you are adding. I can't "disconnect" what was never connected in Scripture. You have turned the Son into his own God.
Finite mind is having difficulty understanding infinite. God is more than capable of sitting on the throne of heaven and have His flesh walk the earth.

Hear O Israel, God is one. ... There is only one God,

Isaiah 44:6,8 — Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

Revelation 1:8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."

Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
 
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God is more than capable of sitting on the throne of heaven and have His flesh walk the earth.
God does not have flesh. He is Spirit.

Isaiah 44:6,8 — Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.Fear ye not, neither be afraid; have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
These verses refer to Father YHWH and no one else.

"I am the Alpha and the Omega," says the Lord God, "who is and who was and who is to come, the Almighty."
The words of Revelation 1:8 are not the words of Yeshua and should not be printed in red in modern Bibles. John is giving a greeting starting in Revelation 1:4 and ending in verse seven. Verse four is a greeting from the Father “which is, and which was, and which is to come.” Verse five is a greeting from Yeshua the Messiah. Verse eight is spoken by the Father which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.” Scripture makes a clear distinction between the Almighty and Yeshua in Revelation 21:22; “And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it.” (KJV)


Revelation 4:8-11 read;

And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come. And when those beasts give glory and honor and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who lives for ever and ever. The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that lives for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying, You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for you have created all things, and for your pleasure they are and were created.

Then, in Revelation 5:6-7, we read;

And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth. And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

The Lamb (Yeshua) is not the Creator who sits on the throne, the Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come.


Revelation 22:13 I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End.
Revelation 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.

This verse usually appears in red letters because the translators thought Yeshua was speaking. However, notice the context including verse 12.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

We know Yeshua is coming, however, did you know Yahweh is coming as well?

Isa 40:10 Behold, Adonai Yahweh will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, His reward is with Him, and His work before Him.

“His arm” is a reference to Yeshua. They are both coming in a sense. Yeshua will come as Yahweh’s representative. When he comes, it will be as though Yahweh (Yeshua’s Father and “God”) will come as well.
 
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