CHRISTIAN DAYCARE WORKERS FIRED FOR REFUSING TO CALL A LITTLE GIRL A BOY

Cute Tink · Nov 9, 2015

bhsmte said:
What problem do you have, with a qualified therapist making a determination on the child?

I don't and that is not what I said anyway. I've been very clear that my problem is with a doctor arbitrarily and subjectively deciding whether the child was properly diagnosed by a qualified therapist and then forcing the parents to go see a therapist selected by him.

bhsmte · Nov 9, 2015

Cute Tink said:
I've commented on the possibility that the child is possibly more fluid. You'll not that your own quote says "sometimes".

Regardless, this still doesn't show that the parents are forcing it on the child. You'll also note that this is a quote from someone who refused to follow the directions of her employer and got fired for it.

Reinforces the need for an independent psyche eval, to determine what is specifically going on with the child.

Tallguy88 · Nov 9, 2015

Superhero Sam said:
Technically, aren't transgender people the opposite sex they become for all intents and purposes? They have the hormones of the opposite gender and all that entails-voice, facial characteristics, etc. Gender isn't just a black/white issue of anatomy.

I'm not in any way, shape or form condoning the lifestyle by what I just said, btw.

Sex cannot truly be changed. Even physically (not talking spiritually or theologically), you have XX or XY chromosomes, very rarely something else. Even if you change the external appearances, you cannot change the chromosomes and the genes, not at this point in medical technology.

Cute Tink · Nov 9, 2015

Tallguy88 said:
I choose God and His Church and it's consistent, millenia-old teachings on sex, sexuality, and sin over the recent decisions of the medical/psychological community on human sexuality.

It concerns me that you aren't open to more modern information.

Trans is a disorder to be corrected, and we should focus on healing and compassion, but not celebrating the disorder itself as if it were not a disorder. Doubly so when it is being forced on children.

It's literally not a disorder and you have still not supplied solid evidence that it is being forced upon the child.

bhsmte · Nov 9, 2015

Cute Tink said:
I don't and that is not what I said anyway. I've been very clear that my problem is with a doctor arbitrarily and subjectively deciding whether the child was properly diagnosed by a qualified therapist and then forcing the parents to go see a therapist selected by him.

The doctor is not going to question the diagnosis from a qualified therapist.

What a doctor should question, is a diagnosis from a therapist not qualified in working and diagnosing issues like this with children.

Not only that, if CPS got involved, so would the courts and the court is going to order a therapist qualified in the right areas, to examine the child.

Tallguy88 · Nov 9, 2015

AHH who-stole-my-name said:
Did I not say sacrifice. A sacrifice is not done in the aftermath of and action but before it results in one.

If they sacrificed their job?

Cute Tink · Nov 9, 2015

Tallguy88 said:
Sex cannot truly be changed. Even physically (not talking spiritually or theologically), you have XX or XY chromosomes, very rarely something else. Even if you change the external appearances, you cannot change the chromosomes and the genes, not at this point in medical technology.

Society doesn't define sex by chromosomes. Very few people have their chromosomes checked to determine how rare those non-XX, non-XY occurrences are.

There are options other than 100% male and female, including matching the body to chromosomes.

Jahrooshshalom · Nov 9, 2015

Sistrin said:
This site appears to be a mix of satire and rational commentary. The best satire is always based in the truth, and the author of this particular piece of satire nailed the underlying issue.

Their page that tells readers about the site doesn't indicate satire.
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Tallguy88 · Nov 9, 2015

Cute Tink said:
It concerns me that you aren't open to more modern information.

It's literally not a disorder and you have still not supplied solid evidence that it is being forced upon the child.

How can I accept the definition of psychologists when it directly contradicts the truth of God?

Cute Tink · Nov 9, 2015

bhsmte said:
The doctor is not going to question the diagnosis from a qualified therapist.

What a doctor should question, is a diagnosis from a therapist not qualified in working and diagnosing issues like this with children.

Not only that, if CPS got involved, so would the courts and the court is going to order a therapist qualified in the right areas, to examine the child.

The doctor should not question the diagnosis from a qualified therapist, but I'm not going to pretend it's not an option, which is why I object to simply giving the authority to make that determination to a doctor without apparent recourse (outside of probably a costly lawsuit).

Tallguy88 · Nov 9, 2015

Cute Tink said:
Society doesn't define sex by chromosomes. Very few people have their chromosomes checked to determine how rare those non-XX, non-XY occurrences are.

There are options other than 100% male and female, including matching the body to chromosomes.

I believe you are referring to gender, rather than sex.

Cute Tink · Nov 9, 2015

Tallguy88 said:
How can I accept the definition of psychologists when it directly contradicts the truth of God?

Please state where the Bible itself says anything on the issue of transgender people.

bhsmte · Nov 9, 2015

Tallguy88 said:
How can I accept the definition of psychologists when it directly contradicts the truth of God?

I understand your desire and need to rely on your interpretation of God's word.

I would imagine, you also realize, some folks don't rely on the bible for accurate descriptions of human psychology.

Cute Tink · Nov 9, 2015

Tallguy88 said:
I believe you are referring to gender, rather than sex.

I am referring to sex. Phenotype vs. genotype vs. gender.

Hank77 · Nov 9, 2015

Superhero Sam said:
Technically, aren't transgender people the opposite sex they become for all intents and purposes? They have the hormones of the opposite gender and all that entails-voice, facial characteristics, etc.

If you mean they are born with the hormones, etc. of the opposite gender, that is incorrect.

Cute Tink said:
you have still not supplied solid evidence that it is being forced upon the child.

And no one has said that the parents ARE forcing the child.

Tallguy88 · Nov 9, 2015

Cute Tink said:
Please state where the Bible itself says anything on the issue of transgender people.

I'm Catholic and do not believe in Bible-Alonism (Sola Scriptura). I can point you to infallible Church teaching, as well as historic posts from saints and such.

Tallguy88 · Nov 9, 2015

Cute Tink said:
I am referring to sex. Phenotype vs. genotype vs. gender.

So, you mean to say that Trans is a mutation?

Tallguy88 · Nov 9, 2015

bhsmte said:
I understand your desire and need to rely on your interpretation of God's word.

I would imagine, you also realize, some folks don't rely on the bible for accurate descriptions of human psychology.

Sure. I'm not referring to psychological or medical diagnoses of the condition. I'm referring to our response to the condition. For example, I believe in Schizophrenia. That doesn't mean I should tell the schizophrenic that the voices are real and he should do what they say.

AHH who-stole-my-name · Nov 9, 2015

Tallguy88 said:
If they sacrificed their job?

A sacrifice is a selflessness proactive gesture of conscience not a reactive acknowledgment of defeat.

Cute Tink · Nov 9, 2015

Tallguy88 said:
So, you mean to say that Trans is a mutation?

The current evidence suggests that the brain develops comparable to the identified gender rather than the sex of the body. We have seen several differences in sex development in people (the various forms of intersex) that can involve a male body with XX chromosomes (or the reverse), people with indistinct gentialia, both sets of genitalia, etc. With so many varieties of development as it relates to sex, why couldn't the brain develop opposite of the body?

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