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Try to pray for God to alleviate the pain and suffering of people all over the world instead of losing faith. Try not to be too eager to marry and have kids. If you aren't careful you might end up marrying someone abusive and end up a single mom. Congratulations on getting a job. Even if you don't become a physician's assistant being an assistant teacher is a good profession. Imagine what you would feel like if you never succeeded at anything, including school? Feeling worthless comes with depression. It could be worse. It could always be worse. What are you basing your self worth on anyways?

i do pray for people all over the world. im losing faith because despite my efforts if trying to do good to people (im not saying im perfect) but i welcomed my father with open arms when he came from prison but instead he behaved arrogantly, has gone back and forth to prison and has even asked me to bail him out. i dont care what anyone says about self pity, i hate when people make me feel evil for hurting inside, im not crying for attention or feeling hopeless for attention. i live in a world where no one hears anyone's cries until its too late. my heart goes out to all who are suffering no matter how small it may be in comparison to others' pain. thank you for commenting. on behalf of marriage im not desperate and will not marry the wrong man becuase i have not settled im just saying it gets hard to be single and also the men who have approached me just reinforce the thought in my head that i am worthless.i have been where it could be worse in depression. i have felt suicidal and have even attempted. i just dislike when people make it seem like we are supposed to lie down and just accept hit after hit from life and begin to live comfortable in misery. well i am not comfortable, because something is not right. i am not a person asking for riches and material things, i am asking for peace and healing from wounds that i was destined to have the day i was born to an absent father. i spent my whole childhood oblivious to the pain my father's absence caused me and then when i began pursuing a relationship with God i struggled to understand who He was as father. i dont feel guilty for hurting or crying because if i expressed my pain in another way then people would criticize me for that too. but in the midst of my pain, i still pray frequently for others who are hurting and barely mention my situation to God until i feel hopeless.
 
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My father was an abusive alcoholic that beat me and beat my mother. I know what it's like to suffer at the hands of a father that is not a real father.

My mother divorced my father and took me to another country where I grew up as a foreigner. I couldn't speak the language. Meanwhile, my mother, who had the opportunity to make a great life for herself, fell into the sin of self pity. Instead of using the resources available to her to make a good life for us, she chose to wallow in that self pity. She was a victim who blamed every single difficulty on the fact that she had a bad marriage. The, in turn, she abused me emotionally, expecting me, a child, to be her support system.

In her miserable self pity, my mother allowed her life to deteriorate. She pushed people away. She let herself go. Eventually, it was so awful to be around her that I fled from her and that country, and came back to my own country all alone.

All alone in an unfamiliar place, I also started to fall into the sin of self pity. Why was self pity my sin? Because it separated me from the God that I love. My self pity caused me to doubt His goodness. But because He is good, He allowed me to suffer in my self pity until a wonderful friend told me to knock it off and get real. As long as I was wallowing in feeling sorry for myself, she said, God would not move in my life. I had a choice: follow Him, or remain self centered, pitiful and miserable. It was my turning point.

I chose Him. I chose to believe in the God of the Bible. I chose to set aside my skewed, sick thinking, and rely on Him. I chose to hold onto Him as though my life depended on it....because it did.

I know pain, and I know suffering. My 12 year old daughter died in my arms after being horribly disabled her whole life. That qualifies me to talk about suffering.

I understand that you are suffering as well. But you are choosing to allow the sin of self pity to overtake you, and as my friend told me, I will tell you: God will not move in your life as long as you make your self pity your God. When you choose your misery over Him, that is where you will stay. My mother did that and became completely emotionally crippled, pushing every single person who cared for her away from her. She created her own hell and refused to leave.

I did not go in that path. I chose to accept the call of our loving Father. He changed my life, and comforted me as I sent my precious little girl into His arms.

You say that you think He chose you to suffer. Really? I think not. He allowed this to happen so that you could overcome and become a blessing to others. But if you insist on calling yourself worthless because you had a dud for a father, then by extension, so are the rest of us. You cannot claim that God loves some and not you. That is not who He is. You cannot tell anyone else that God loves them with any credibility if you believe that you are worthless. He has told us, on no uncertain terms, that He loves every single one of His children. He did not say that there are some special cases that He torments just for the fun of it. No.... you have a challenge to face. You can choose to follow Him, to overcome, to be victorious, all in His strength Or, you can do what my mother did, and roll around in the muck of self pity. I understand the temptation to do that...if you do, you don't have to take responsibility. You can remain a victim and seek out people to feel sorry for you. But I promise you, that will never satisfy you.

Or you can choose life, and choose God. You have the opportunity to become a physician's assistant and make a difference in the lives of thousands. Or, you can just stay where you are. It is entirely up to you.

But I implore you...do not tell the lie that God doesn't care. Don't insult the Lord who laid down His life for you and me. Don't tell other people that God loves them while saying in the same breath that you are worthless. Because that is a lie from the pit of hell.

Self pity is the devil's favorite playground. It is the most insidious form of pride. It's where he can cripple God's people and render them useless for the Kingdom. We are called, as the children of the God most high, to put on the armor of God and not fall for it. We are not helpless victims. We are God's people called to push past difficulty and love others into the Kingdom. It is your choice which way you go. Which will you choose?

i have chosen many times to believe in God but that does not stop the devil from bothering me and others who are fighting to trust. im sorry if you think im looking for people to feel sorry for me actually i am reaching out for hope during times of hopelessness because no one else around me understands what im going through. its crazy how people are punished for hurting but those who jump around happy are praised. i will leave this site since i am a debby downer to many hear and its a crime to reach out for help when hurting.
 
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You are not worthless. And I've seen you so you can't tell me you're not beautiful either, because I know that you are!

Please don't base your worth on how your father has treated you, or the circumstances you find yourself in. You're worth so much more than your genes or your circumstances. You are worthy because Jesus has made you worthy, it's not about you it's about Him.

I know that it's hard to feel like you're doing okay when you are measuring your success on what the world looks at as successful: marriage, career, finances etc. You don't need any of those things to prove your worthiness to God or to make you successful. You just need to trust that God sees the bigger picture and that when the time is right the right person will come along.


Praying that you get into the program you want to :prayer::hug::hug:

thank you Woven. :hug:
 
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i do pray for people all over the world. im losing faith because despite my efforts if trying to do good to people (im not saying im perfect) but i welcomed my father with open arms when he came from prison but instead he behaved arrogantly, has gone back and forth to prison and has even asked me to bail him out. i dont care what anyone says about self pity, i hate when people make me feel evil for hurting inside, im not crying for attention or feeling hopeless for attention. i live in a world where no one hears anyone's cries until its too late. my heart goes out to all who are suffering no matter how small it may be in comparison to others' pain. thank you for commenting. on behalf of marriage im not desperate and will not marry the wrong man becuase i have not settled im just saying it gets hard to be single and also the men who have approached me just reinforce the thought in my head that i am worthless.i have been where it could be worse in depression. i have felt suicidal and have even attempted. i just dislike when people make it seem like we are supposed to lie down and just accept hit after hit from life and begin to live comfortable in misery. well i am not comfortable, because something is not right. i am not a person asking for riches and material things, i am asking for peace and healing from wounds that i was destined to have the day i was born to an absent father. i spent my whole childhood oblivious to the pain my father's absence caused me and then when i began pursuing a relationship with God i struggled to understand who He was as father. i dont feel guilty for hurting or crying because if i expressed my pain in another way then people would criticize me for that too. but in the midst of my pain, i still pray frequently for others who are hurting and barely mention my situation to God until i feel hopeless.

No matter who reinforces the feelings that you are worthless, you know that you are not. You know the truth, who you are in Christ Jesus. He died for you so you can be with Him in heaven for eternity.

I say this with love, so please take it that way? Ok. No one can make you feel worthless UNLESS you allow them to. You know the truth. You will have to recondition yourself, that you will have to do. That will be hard. It will not happen overnight, but it is reconditioning. Not a change of the truth. The truth is that you are very worth while and the Lord God of the heavens and the earth has said so.

I had to recondition my mind so I know what you are going through and it WILL NOT happen overnight, but it will happen. You will grow a little stronger and a little stronger and after a while you will see your own opinion of yourself changing.

Don't let those thoughts in your mind! That is satan attacking you. He doesn't want you with God, he wants you miserable. He will not win though. :kiss: :hug: :hug: :kiss:
 
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thank you. i dont know how to recondition my mind and i feel like i will be in this alone. i have been trying to do devotionals on distorted images of God and self, and i do what the devotionals say when they tell them me to invite God to heal me or to pray for something but then i get fearful that God is not involved or that he doesnt care that im trying to heal. its like i try to move forward but i end up on falling on my face anyway. it hurts that ive found myself here because since ive accepted Jesus into my life ive been struggling with this and i know its been building up since childhood. i wish i knew what God is saying about my situation.
 
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thank you. i dont know how to recondition my mind and i feel like i will be in this alone. i have been trying to do devotionals on distorted images of God and self, and i do what the devotionals say when they tell them me to invite God to heal me or to pray for something but then i get fearful that God is not involved or that he doesnt care that im trying to heal. its like i try to move forward but i end up on falling on my face anyway. it hurts that ive found myself here because since ive accepted Jesus into my life ive been struggling with this and i know its been building up since childhood. i wish i knew what God is saying about my situation.

How often do you have thoughts like "I'm worthless and no one loves me" per day? Do you say to yourself "I am NOT worthless and Jesus loves me so much that He, God came down from heaven, to earth and died a horrible death for my sins"?

This is reprogramming your mind. For every negative thought, you rephrase the negative thought into a positive one.

Another example is you are having a hard time forgiving yourself because you feel that you have wasted the life that you could have lived for God? Right?

Think about your testimony of the power of God today in your life? You've overcome alcoholism, pills and sexual temptations. You could go back to these things but you do not want to. Why? Because the Lord Jesus has changed your heart.

That's a fabulous testimony!

You stay strong and write back. Let me know if you think you can replace each negative thought or word with a positive one.

I think you can do it! :kiss: :hug: :hug:
 
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You're not a debby downer, you're just going through a hard time.

I think you are doing great.

The reason it hurts so much, is because there's so much pain and it's never been properly dealt with. It builds up over time, and eventually it feels like it "explodes" and you don't know where it came from.

But it did come from somewhere. It came from years of neglect, and emotional abuse. It comes from the pain of family who weren't there for you. It's not that the pain wasn't there to begin with, it's just that we suppress it to try and survive. But we can only do that for so long. Eventually it comes out.

But God is there to help you deal with it, while it does come out. He's there to help you heal through the process, and gain a better understanding of His love for you. It's helping you to become restored.

I know that it doesn't feel like it, but you are in the process of recovery and it's very painful, and I know it seems like there isn't an end to it, but there is an end to that deep pain that seems to scar. He will always be there for you.
 
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He us saying to you..."Trust Me."

i know :( im trying, its just hard. i realized that i have wrong perceptions about God and myself. even when im trying to pray or confess truth out loud theres always the voice saying that God isnt participating in your healing or youre making a big deal out of this and no healing is necessary. i have all kinds of negative thoughts. the harder i fight the harder it gets. i think i have improved from last year because the depression would cause me to self-harm.
 
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How often do you have thoughts like "I'm worthless and no one loves me" per day? Do you say to yourself "I am NOT worthless and Jesus loves me so much that He, God came down from heaven, to earth and died a horrible death for my sins"?

This is reprogramming your mind. For every negative thought, you rephrase the negative thought into a positive one.

Another example is you are having a hard time forgiving yourself because you feel that you have wasted the life that you could have lived for God? Right?

Think about your testimony of the power of God today in your life? You've overcome alcoholism, pills and sexual temptations. You could go back to these things but you do not want to. Why? Because the Lord Jesus has changed your heart.

That's a fabulous testimony!

You stay strong and write back. Let me know if you think you can replace each negative thought or word with a positive one.

I think you can do it! :kiss: :hug: :hug:


youre right, i usually think of myself as worthless when certain things happen. there are times when im happy like when im working as a substitute and having a good day, then there are times my mind gets going and i start thinking that im worthless and incomplete and fatherless. i know what to say to counter these negative thoughts but there are others that i dont know how to counteract because theres no promise in the bible for that particular problem. the outcome could go either way.
 
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You're not a debby downer, you're just going through a hard time.

I think you are doing great.

The reason it hurts so much, is because there's so much pain and it's never been properly dealt with. It builds up over time, and eventually it feels like it "explodes" and you don't know where it came from.

But it did come from somewhere. It came from years of neglect, and emotional abuse. It comes from the pain of family who weren't there for you. It's not that the pain wasn't there to begin with, it's just that we suppress it to try and survive. But we can only do that for so long. Eventually it comes out.

But God is there to help you deal with it, while it does come out. He's there to help you heal through the process, and gain a better understanding of His love for you. It's helping you to become restored.

I know that it doesn't feel like it, but you are in the process of recovery and it's very painful, and I know it seems like there isn't an end to it, but there is an end to that deep pain that seems to scar. He will always be there for you.

thank you Kevin. it has been coming out in bad ways. i have lashed out in anger and broke things. i feel that God is angry with me when it happens. it just feels like a build up of pain and i feel trapped then i just lash out. im so messed up. do you know how i can reach God?

i have prayed to God and told him what im feeling inside, and how its hard to go on. i have done this before but the cycle repeats itself where i am ok for a few days and the pain resurfaces. i know im wrong but it seems like i keep pleading for God's help and healing but im getting nowhere. i dont see any healing taking place at all. i dont want to be this way forever. i will just push people away and end up alone.
 
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i have chosen many times to believe in God but that does not stop the devil from bothering me and others who are fighting to trust. im sorry if you think im looking for people to feel sorry for me actually i am reaching out for hope during times of hopelessness because no one else around me understands what im going through. its crazy how people are punished for hurting but those who jump around happy are praised. i will leave this site since i am a debby downer to many hear and its a crime to reach out for help when hurting.

I understand your response, because that is the same response that I initially had. You say that you are reaching out for hope...numerous people have given you the One hope in Jesus, but you have chosen to reject Him by deciding that He is punishing you. I'm sure that by now you know that is not true. He did not single you out for misery. That's why I told you my story...if anyone has reason for depression it's me. But the real change came when I finally realized that I was crippling myself with my own self pitying attitude. Self pity is a sin because it squeezes the Lord out, and causes you to focus on yourself.

I also remember giving the same kind of response as you..I'm a debby downer, I will take my ball and go home, it's a crime to reach out when I'm hurting. That is a defense mechanism for a person who does not want to take responsibility for their own lives. I'm sorry, but it's true. I promise you, when you finally realize that your attitude is what's harming you more than your circumstances, more than your father, more than people on this site who aren't telling you what you want to hear.... when you decide that you are going to trust the God of the Universe who loves you and died for you and stop insulting Him by claiming that He has picked you out as some sort of a toy to torment and has chosen you as His very special victim to hate, when you stand on truth instead of self pity.....THEN you will begin to heal.

The truth will set you free. But the choice is ENTIRELY yours. The Lord is waiting for you to fully turn to Him. You don't choose Him many times, you choose Him once and for all and give your life to Him in full surrender. That means you surrender your desire to be a victim of circumstance and rely on Him to use you for His Kingdom. He will use you only when you give up your self pity. And when you finally do lay it all down at the cross of Christ, then He will show you wonders that you could never see for yourself. I know, I lived it.

Once again, the choice is yours. It is all up to you. I pray that you will choose well.
 
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It's okay now to approach the kind of man that you think would be good for you. I have to tell myself that, too. I've had so many weirdos approach me in my life. Now I am going to laugh about it because everybody gets approached by weirdos, not just us. I have no man in my life and I am old now. I sometimes think, who in their right mind would want me with all my faults, fatness and being disabled. But someone once told me there is someone out there for all of us. I'm praying that this man will appear to me one day. It may not happen, though, I am getting really old, almost 57. I've had 2 husbands that abused me and were alkies. I've got to start being less hard on myself and think there is a chance that someone will show up but until then I have a lot of nice friends to keep me company on the holidays.
 
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I understand your response, because that is the same response that I initially had. You say that you are reaching out for hope...numerous people have given you the One hope in Jesus, but you have chosen to reject Him by deciding that He is punishing you. I'm sure that by now you know that is not true. He did not single you out for misery. That's why I told you my story...if anyone has reason for depression it's me. But the real change came when I finally realized that I was crippling myself with my own self pitying attitude. Self pity is a sin because it squeezes the Lord out, and causes you to focus on yourself.

I also remember giving the same kind of response as you..I'm a debby downer, I will take my ball and go home, it's a crime to reach out when I'm hurting. That is a defense mechanism for a person who does not want to take responsibility for their own lives. I'm sorry, but it's true. I promise you, when you finally realize that your attitude is what's harming you more than your circumstances, more than your father, more than people on this site who aren't telling you what you want to hear.... when you decide that you are going to trust the God of the Universe who loves you and died for you and stop insulting Him by claiming that He has picked you out as some sort of a toy to torment and has chosen you as His very special victim to hate, when you stand on truth instead of self pity.....THEN you will begin to heal.

The truth will set you free. But the choice is ENTIRELY yours. The Lord is waiting for you to fully turn to Him. You don't choose Him many times, you choose Him once and for all and give your life to Him in full surrender. That means you surrender your desire to be a victim of circumstance and rely on Him to use you for His Kingdom. He will use you only when you give up your self pity. And when you finally do lay it all down at the cross of Christ, then He will show you wonders that you could never see for yourself. I know, I lived it.

Once again, the choice is yours. It is all up to you. I pray that you will choose well.


I understand your response, because that is the same response that I initially had. You say that you are reaching out for hope...numerous people have given you the One hope in Jesus, but you have chosen to reject Him by deciding that He is punishing you. I'm sure that by now you know that is not true. He did not single you out for misery. That's why I told you my story...if anyone has reason for depression it's me. But the real change came when I finally realized that I was crippling myself with my own self pitying attitude. Self pity is a sin because it squeezes the Lord out, and causes you to focus on yourself.

i have not rejected Jesus. Just because I am struggling to have faith does not mean I have rejected him. If thats the case I would not be on this site or I would have chose to live life the easy way and fulfill my own desires on my own timetable. I didnt say that God singled me out, I said it seems like some people have great lives while others go through lives of suffering. I am not speaking on behalf of myself because I know my struggles are small compared to what others have gone through.

I also remember giving the same kind of response as you..I'm a debby downer, I will take my ball and go home, it's a crime to reach out when I'm hurting. That is a defense mechanism for a person who does not want to take responsibility for their own lives. I'm sorry, but it's true. I promise you, when you finally realize that your attitude is what's harming you more than your circumstances, more than your father, more than people on this site who aren't telling you what you want to hear.... when you decide that you are going to trust the God of the Universe who loves you and died for you and stop insulting Him by claiming that He has picked you out as some sort of a toy to torment and has chosen you as His very special victim to hate, when you stand on truth instead of self pity.....THEN you will begin to heal.

To me it does seem to a crime to reach out for help depending on who acually responds. This world makes it a travesty to be weak at times and to need someone to lean on. If I was with God right now, I would cry on his shoulder because I am hurting. Some days I am okay and I am praying and standing on truth. Everyday is not going to be easy for me and i should not be put down for reaching out on those rough days. I do take repsonsiblity for my own life if i didnt i would be using drugs and other means to cope but instead i am trying to get to the God of the universe whether im struggling and doubting along the way. I have still chosen to pursue his healing no matter how many bumps in the road i have.

this is a depression forum, people should be allowed to be weak, to express true feelings that they are having without feeling condemned after reading your message. i know youre trying to help but the tone of your message is basically saying "get over it". Ive never heard of anyone being strong enough to surrender their whole life to God at once, and if you are speaking of salvation I know that Jesus is the way and I have already accepted him. Sanctification is a process and i feel that alot of people dont give others the chance to go through it. i will no longer be posting on this forum any longer. it was an outlet to get out feelings but its not safe for me anymore. i dont care if anyone thinks im being manipulative in trying to get the response i want, especially if im sincerely looking for help and im not healing at the rate they want me to.
 
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I understand your response, because that is the same response that I initially had. You say that you are reaching out for hope...numerous people have given you the One hope in Jesus, but you have chosen to reject Him by deciding that He is punishing you. I'm sure that by now you know that is not true. He did not single you out for misery. That's why I told you my story...if anyone has reason for depression it's me. But the real change came when I finally realized that I was crippling myself with my own self pitying attitude. Self pity is a sin because it squeezes the Lord out, and causes you to focus on yourself.

i have not rejected Jesus. Just because I am struggling to have faith does not mean I have rejected him. If thats the case I would not be on this site or I would have chose to live life the easy way and fulfill my own desires on my own timetable. I didnt say that God singled me out, I said it seems like some people have great lives while others go through lives of suffering. I am not speaking on behalf of myself because I know my struggles are small compared to what others have gone through.

I also remember giving the same kind of response as you..I'm a debby downer, I will take my ball and go home, it's a crime to reach out when I'm hurting. That is a defense mechanism for a person who does not want to take responsibility for their own lives. I'm sorry, but it's true. I promise you, when you finally realize that your attitude is what's harming you more than your circumstances, more than your father, more than people on this site who aren't telling you what you want to hear.... when you decide that you are going to trust the God of the Universe who loves you and died for you and stop insulting Him by claiming that He has picked you out as some sort of a toy to torment and has chosen you as His very special victim to hate, when you stand on truth instead of self pity.....THEN you will begin to heal.

To me it does seem to a crime to reach out for help depending on who acually responds. This world makes it a travesty to be weak at times and to need someone to lean on. If I was with God right now, I would cry on his shoulder because I am hurting. Some days I am okay and I am praying and standing on truth. Everyday is not going to be easy for me and i should not be put down for reaching out on those rough days. I do take repsonsiblity for my own life if i didnt i would be using drugs and other means to cope but instead i am trying to get to the God of the universe whether im struggling and doubting along the way. I have still chosen to pursue his healing no matter how many bumps in the road i have.

this is a depression forum, people should be allowed to be weak, to express true feelings that they are having without feeling condemned after reading your message. i know youre trying to help but the tone of your message is basically saying "get over it". Ive never heard of anyone being strong enough to surrender their whole life to God at once, and if you are speaking of salvation I know that Jesus is the way and I have already accepted him. Sanctification is a process and i feel that alot of people dont give others the chance to go through it. i will no longer be posting on this forum any longer. it was an outlet to get out feelings but its not safe for me anymore. i dont care if anyone thinks im being manipulative in trying to get the response i want, especially if im sincerely looking for help and im not healing at the rate they want me to.

We all are who we are. We need to be able to be honest and not feel condemned. I am with you on that.

There are some who are hard on others in the depression forum and they usually do not know how hard it can be.

Stay strong! You know that Jesus is the way, we just need to keep following him.

Big hug :hug:
 
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Kendra, please don't allow yourself to be run off. There are different types and levels of depression. The kind a lot of us have here, including me, is a physical issue not unlike diabetes or high blood pressure. The brain doesn't produce enough serotonin. Sometimes it's not understood that this type of depression
can't just be "gotten over".

That being said, there is a responsibility as Christians to study and apply Scripture to battle intrusive thought patterns. I believe most of us here do that. In the worst of times we wonder how we're gonna make it through another day, but we do. To me that's perseverence. Perseverence = strength.
 
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I understand your response, because that is the same response that I initially had. You say that you are reaching out for hope...numerous people have given you the One hope in Jesus, but you have chosen to reject Him by deciding that He is punishing you. I'm sure that by now you know that is not true. He did not single you out for misery. That's why I told you my story...if anyone has reason for depression it's me. But the real change came when I finally realized that I was crippling myself with my own self pitying attitude. Self pity is a sin because it squeezes the Lord out, and causes you to focus on yourself.

i have not rejected Jesus. Just because I am struggling to have faith does not mean I have rejected him. If thats the case I would not be on this site or I would have chose to live life the easy way and fulfill my own desires on my own timetable. I didnt say that God singled me out, I said it seems like some people have great lives while others go through lives of suffering. I am not speaking on behalf of myself because I know my struggles are small compared to what others have gone through.

I also remember giving the same kind of response as you..I'm a debby downer, I will take my ball and go home, it's a crime to reach out when I'm hurting. That is a defense mechanism for a person who does not want to take responsibility for their own lives. I'm sorry, but it's true. I promise you, when you finally realize that your attitude is what's harming you more than your circumstances, more than your father, more than people on this site who aren't telling you what you want to hear.... when you decide that you are going to trust the God of the Universe who loves you and died for you and stop insulting Him by claiming that He has picked you out as some sort of a toy to torment and has chosen you as His very special victim to hate, when you stand on truth instead of self pity.....THEN you will begin to heal.

To me it does seem to a crime to reach out for help depending on who acually responds. This world makes it a travesty to be weak at times and to need someone to lean on. If I was with God right now, I would cry on his shoulder because I am hurting. Some days I am okay and I am praying and standing on truth. Everyday is not going to be easy for me and i should not be put down for reaching out on those rough days. I do take repsonsiblity for my own life if i didnt i would be using drugs and other means to cope but instead i am trying to get to the God of the universe whether im struggling and doubting along the way. I have still chosen to pursue his healing no matter how many bumps in the road i have.

this is a depression forum, people should be allowed to be weak, to express true feelings that they are having without feeling condemned after reading your message. i know youre trying to help but the tone of your message is basically saying "get over it". Ive never heard of anyone being strong enough to surrender their whole life to God at once, and if you are speaking of salvation I know that Jesus is the way and I have already accepted him. Sanctification is a process and i feel that alot of people dont give others the chance to go through it. i will no longer be posting on this forum any longer. it was an outlet to get out feelings but its not safe for me anymore. i dont care if anyone thinks im being manipulative in trying to get the response i want, especially if im sincerely looking for help and im not healing at the rate they want me to.

You are right, this is a place where you can express yourself without condemnation. I did not condemn you. In fact, I would have condemned you if I actually agreed with you that you have no hope. That is true condemnation.

I have also not told you to get over it. That would mean that you have to do it on your own strength. What I have told you is that the best thing you can do for yourself is to repent of the sin of self pity. You see, the reason self pity is a sin is because it separates you from God, causing you to decide that He has chosen you to suffer. That's what you said, right? To repent is to change your mind, to choose to see your circumstances through the perfect and loving eyes of our Father. That is what I am trying to show you.

In my profession, I walk with people through extremely trying times. Sometimes I have to tell them what I am telling you. They don't want to hear it either. They want to blame something external to them (as you do your father) for their troubles. They get mad at me. But with some, suddenly the light goes on in their heart and they realize that their attitude is the source of their misery. They repent, they turn to God for cleansing and healing. When they do, a whole new world opens up to them because God will work in a repentant soul. It my privilege to assist them in this.

There are also those who hang on to the blame in a grip that they refuse to open. They will not repent, they will not turn to God and confess, and they stay stuck where they are. They ask for help and hope, but refuse it when it is offered.

My personal hope is to plant that seed in you, so that one day you will open that grip in surrender to the Lord. That is why I spent so much time writing all that I did. I have nothing to gain by sharing with you. I have opened myself up to criticism because I speak frankly and truthfully. That's okay. I pray that the seed will someday turn into something good for you. I will bow out now and not respond to you anymore (unless you would like me to) so you don't have to fear what I have to say. I will, however, pray for you and hope the very best for you.
 
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You are right, this is a place where you can express yourself without condemnation. I did not condemn you. In fact, I would have condemned you if I actually agreed with you that you have no hope. That is true condemnation.

I have also not told you to get over it. That would mean that you have to do it on your own strength. What I have told you is that the best thing you can do for yourself is to repent of the sin of self pity. You see, the reason self pity is a sin is because it separates you from God, causing you to decide that He has chosen you to suffer. That's what you said, right? To repent is to change your mind, to choose to see your circumstances through the perfect and loving eyes of our Father. That is what I am trying to show you.

In my profession, I walk with people through extremely trying times. Sometimes I have to tell them what I am telling you. They don't want to hear it either. They want to blame something external to them (as you do your father) for their troubles. They get mad at me. But with some, suddenly the light goes on in their heart and they realize that their attitude is the source of their misery. They repent, they turn to God for cleansing and healing. When they do, a whole new world opens up to them because God will work in a repentant soul. It my privilege to assist them in this.

There are also those who hang on to the blame in a grip that they refuse to open. They will not repent, they will not turn to God and confess, and they stay stuck where they are. They ask for help and hope, but refuse it when it is offered.

My personal hope is to plant that seed in you, so that one day you will open that grip in surrender to the Lord. That is why I spent so much time writing all that I did. I have nothing to gain by sharing with you. I have opened myself up to criticism because I speak frankly and truthfully. That's okay. I pray that the seed will someday turn into something good for you. I will bow out now and not respond to you anymore (unless you would like me to) so you don't have to fear what I have to say. I will, however, pray for you and hope the very best for you.

Do you yourself have clinical depression?

If not, with all due respect you do not understand. When people are down, they need to be lifted up and through that moment or time. Then they can build. Depression is serious.
 
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You are right, this is a place where you can express yourself without condemnation. I did not condemn you. In fact, I would have condemned you if I actually agreed with you that you have no hope. That is true condemnation.

I have also not told you to get over it. That would mean that you have to do it on your own strength. What I have told you is that the best thing you can do for yourself is to repent of the sin of self pity. You see, the reason self pity is a sin is because it separates you from God, causing you to decide that He has chosen you to suffer. That's what you said, right? To repent is to change your mind, to choose to see your circumstances through the perfect and loving eyes of our Father. That is what I am trying to show you.

In my profession, I walk with people through extremely trying times. Sometimes I have to tell them what I am telling you. They don't want to hear it either. They want to blame something external to them (as you do your father) for their troubles. They get mad at me. But with some, suddenly the light goes on in their heart and they realize that their attitude is the source of their misery. They repent, they turn to God for cleansing and healing. When they do, a whole new world opens up to them because God will work in a repentant soul. It my privilege to assist them in this.

There are also those who hang on to the blame in a grip that they refuse to open. They will not repent, they will not turn to God and confess, and they stay stuck where they are. They ask for help and hope, but refuse it when it is offered.

My personal hope is to plant that seed in you, so that one day you will open that grip in surrender to the Lord. That is why I spent so much time writing all that I did. I have nothing to gain by sharing with you. I have opened myself up to criticism because I speak frankly and truthfully. That's okay. I pray that the seed will someday turn into something good for you. I will bow out now and not respond to you anymore (unless you would like me to) so you don't have to fear what I have to say. I will, however, pray for you and hope the very best for you.
I understand what you are explaining but I am not rejecting God, struggling to trust and rejecting are two different things. I could try many other means to run from my problems such as drugs, alcohol or another outlet to numb the pain. You don't see me praying and crying out to God, you only know the things I write here which does consist of doubt and questioning God. Also I'm not blaming my dad, I'm telling you the reason why I feel the way I do on fat other struggles I have. His behavior is not of the past it is still continuing today. He is still in and out of prison. It really hurt me when he asked me to bail him out. I felt like he just ignored what I was feeling and was willing to use me for what I could give him. I am 22 years old and my father has been this way before I was born. I didn't feel any pain as a child because I didn't know him. At 18 he really started coming around but continuing his patterns of incarceration and drug use. I think that's pretty recent. I use this site to reach in my weakest moments so what I say is authentic and raw. It may not have any trace of faith in it but no one knows my relationship with God. I talked to God about self pity, I know it's wrong to dwell on the problems but the bible also tells us to cry out and when we need rest for our souls to go to God. At times I feel restless and struggle to let go of my worries. That's part of me developing a relationship with God. No one was able to trust God over night, not even the disciples who spent three years with Jesus. Peter still doubted when he walked on water and began to sink. All I am saying is allow people to express what they are feeling and not make them feel like a loser because they are weak or make them feel like the villain because they are talking about their hurts. If I really wanted to make my dad my problem I would have used the way he hurt me to seek love from guys who care nothing about me. But despite it being difficult in trying to wait on God for love. I'm struggling and I may not be as strong as you but let me be me. I am sensitive, genuine and compassionate, and I treat others that way on here the same way that I see are struggling. You're strong but you didn't get that way overnight and no one will
 
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