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Originally Posted by Avodat
What?
I was talking about the imposition of ET (I mean EP), when I siad it doesn't matter.
What has the Bible to do with EP (or ET)??
The OP is a an Admin....the highest rank a staff member can achieve on CF if I am not mistaken [tho there are both green and blue "A" icons for that.
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Yoseft
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We all are sir.
Some do not share their struggles walking the walk.
But I am also a "real" poster that shares.
The Narrow Path, is Not a cake walk.
We have Grace. But walking that "Walk" is a matter of will, daily.
So far in my walk, the flesh wars against the spirit.
I must wake up each day and decide, who will rule today?
The inner man, or the fleshly outer-man.
Each day is different for me. Sometimes, Worship, music, Praise is the way, prayer, or Word (Bible), prayer or other not to be in the box method.....
If I look within, to Him Who is in me.....
And look above in Reverence to Hasham,
You would think after my I will die for what happened to me, Revelation Yeshua is Adonai / Lord, and the Only path / Faith for Sin, to the Most High in 1979, I would have everything perfect. Not.
Each day I must renew, reconsecrate, seek, request to Him, for my walk.
I am not Billy Graham, Reinhard Bonnke, or Jonathan Bernis (just an example, not the voice for all things Messianic) in my walk.
But G_d!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I start to be fleshly, He the Eternal One who will never leave me or cast me
away, reminds me of His Word....
Love Your enemies, pray for those that spitefully use you.
Sigh.... I thought this flesh would really die after all these years
in Him, reading His Word.
Each day is a new challenge to be like Him, and yield to self.
Yosef
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Hi LLOJ.
If we give a forum specific ban then troublemakers would have a field day.
They would start destroying the forum. If they are caught - hey, just a week off, let me post in GT meanwhile.
When the week-long ban is over, they come back and try breaking as many windows as they can before being caught again - another week's ban, back to GT, no problem.
Forum specific bans do not really work for EP.
It is a slap on a wrist.
MJ forum is their home and people cannot just come into their home and cause trouble.
A week, week, month, 3 month forum specific bans allow the hit-and-run posters to break many windows.
Site-wide ban however carries a heavier penalty.
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Ed
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Avodat
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Interesting new rule that has slipped in:
Members who share beliefs between other denominations and MJ( practice MJ but also attend another church or congregation) can post with in the tenents of MJ doctrines and beliefs (careful to not teach about your other churches doctrine in MJ) by showing the MJ icon or if using the other Church's icon stating in their Siggy or Title that they are indeed MJ as well
Taking this rule, as written, none of us who work in / with the Church, teaching MJ by word and example, can post anything to do with CF's declared Creed - each part of which is a doctrinal statement of the Church. On the other hand, everyone else can mention any part of the same Christian Creed, or any other Doctrinal Statement of the Church with impunity.
Incidentally, 'tenent' doesn't have a meaning that fits in with its use here - I think the word should be 'tenet'.
Members who share beliefs between other denominations and MJ( practice MJ but also attend another church or congregation) can post with in the tenents of MJ doctrines and beliefs (careful to not teach about your other churches doctrine in MJ) by showing the MJ icon or if using the other Church's icon stating in their Siggy or Title that they are indeed MJ as well
Taking this rule, as written, none of us who work in / with the Church, teaching MJ by word and example, can post anything to do with CF's declared Creed - each part of which is a doctrinal statement of the Church. On the other hand, everyone else can mention any part of the same Christian Creed, or any other Doctrinal Statement of the Church with impunity.
Incidentally, 'tenent' doesn't have a meaning that fits in with its use here - I think the word should be 'tenet'.
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Let's see if I understand your question properly.Interesting new rule that has slipped in:
Members who share beliefs between other denominations and MJ( practice MJ but also attend another church or congregation) can post with in the tenents of MJ doctrines and beliefs (careful to not teach about your other churches doctrine in MJ) by showing the MJ icon or if using the other Church's icon stating in their Siggy or Title that they are indeed MJ as well
Taking this rule, as written, none of us who work in / with the Church, teaching MJ by word and example, cannot post anything to do with CF's declared Creed - each part of which is a doctrinal statement of the Church. On the other hand, everyone else can mention any part of the same Christian Creed, or any other Doctrinal Statement of the Church with impunity.
Incidentally, 'tenent' doesn't have a meaning that fits in with its use here - I think the word should be 'tenet'.
Please correct me if the following does not respond to your question.
If the particular denomination's doctrine does not agree with MJ doctrine, one should not promote it here.
Teaching is promotion.
For example, Catholics, EO, Reformed/Calvinists, Lutherans have their own particular secondary teachings that do not agree with MJ's secondary teachings.
These teachings are secondary to the Nicene Creed, CF's statement of faith.
If an MJ goes to a Reformed church s/he should not promote TULIP here.
Catholics should not promote Purgatory, EOs should not promote Toll Houses and so forth.
Does this answer your question?
Thanks,
Ed
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Avodat
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It doesn't include the caveat you made in your first line - it leaves it open so that it applies to ALL doctrines of any sort from any Church, including the Creeds. Hence my questions. Rule writing needs to be clear and concise without ambiguity.
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Clearly, we are not God to write a perfectly worded Law.
I know you understood it, however.
Are you aware of other posters who misunderstood it?
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EdYes. It is in the rules ...
Do not report another member out of spite
http://www.christianforums.com/rules/#faq_rule_0
If Mods see report after a report from one individual and none of them violations, Supervisors contact him.
Does this answer your questions?
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Originally Posted by Edial
Sometimes ...
I suspect you are not looking forwards to EP.
Originally Posted by Avodat
Doesn't bother me - it's just sexist language instead of neutral language.
Originally Posted by Hoshiyya
Well the Bible is written like that. If it doesn't bother you though then no point to mentioning it.
Originally Posted by Avodat
What?
I was talking about the imposition of ET (I mean EP), when I siad it doesn't matter.
What has the Bible to do with EP (or ET)??
Originally Posted by Hoshiyya
The Bible uses "he" instead of "he or her" and so on, relative to laws that clearly apply to both genders.
Originally Posted by Avodat
Read the relevant posts, please. We were NOT talking about a Bible text or anything remotely to do with the Bible! We were talikng about a comment made by the Mod (or whatever his title is). If you read the posts relating to tho the whole conversation you will see that he asked about whether I would be concerned at the impostion of EP. I said it doesn't bother me. Then I commenetd on his use of a gender specific word that appeared to say that men only are the offenders here.
I repeat - the whole conversation had nothing whatsoever to do with the Bible, either directly or indirectly
Originally Posted by sacerdote
Why are you dissing Ed? He's a Forum Advisor, one of the four top managers of CF. Tishri is also an Advisor. We don't have to like each other but there's no reason we cannot all be respectful.
Originally Posted by Avodat
What?
I know Tishri1 is CEO advisor. I do not know that Ed is a senior manager or Forum Advisor (it simply says he is a Site Advisor). Crikey! What's with all this (again?). I shall not bother asking how I apparently 'dissed' him (whatever that may mean.
Time for a sabbatical while you lot sort yourselves out a bit, I think.
You know how Tishri gets overprotective? ... well, David is almost like that.Originally Posted by Edial
Yes, I have the same wings Debi has.
Site Advisor is the same as Forum Advisor.
Please do not worry about this ...
Originally Posted by sacerdote
That's why I really like this next smiley with the halo coming up then dropping down.
Originally Posted by Edial
Ha! I never looked at it this way.
Originally Posted by sacerdote
Just a Christian guy struggling through life sometimes.
QFT!We all are sir.
Some do not share their struggles walking the walk.
But I am also a "real" poster that shares.
The Narrow Path, is Not a cake walk.
We have Grace. But walking that "Walk" is a matter of will, daily.
So far in my walk, the flesh wars against the spirit.
I must wake up each day and decide, who will rule today?
The inner man, or the fleshly outer-man.
Each day is different for me. Sometimes, Worship, music, Praise is the way, prayer, or Word (Bible), prayer or other not to be in the box method.....
If I look within, to Him Who is in me.....
And look above in Reverence to Hasham,
You would think after my I will die for what happened to me, Revelation Yeshua is Adonai / Lord, and the Only path / Faith for Sin, to the Most High in 1979, I would have everything perfect. Not.
Each day I must renew, reconsecrate, seek, request to Him, for my walk.
I am not Billy Graham, Reinhard Bonnke, or Jonathan Bernis (just an example, not the voice for all things Messianic) in my walk.
But G_d!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I start to be fleshly, He the Eternal One who will never leave me or cast me
away, reminds me of His Word....
Love Your enemies, pray for those that spitefully use you.
Sigh.... I thought this flesh would really die after all these years
in Him, reading His Word.
Each day is a new challenge to be like Him, and yield to self.
Yosef
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Avodat
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Just basic English will do fine. I doubt that many people are even aware of its existence, I only stumbled across it today - I've no idea when it arrived as I, like many others, do not meticulously read the sticky every day to see if it has changed
No I didn't really underrstand it - I took it at face value, as I said, and that is what I wrote about; we can't second guess intentions, that is how the rules get broken as people attempt to second guess what the writer actually meant.
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This might not be the best example for a legitimate complaint. It is not even a part of the SOP, from what I understand.Just basic English will do fine. I doubt that many people are even aware of its existence, I only stumbled across it today - I've no idea when it arrived as I, like many others, do not meticulously read the sticky every day to see if it has changed
No I didn't really underrstand it - I took it at face value, as I said, and that is what I wrote about; we can't second guess intentions, that is how the rules get broken as people attempt to second guess what the writer actually meant.
And considering "basic English", as you can see you also misspelled a word.
Now what do we do? (shrug smiley)
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Your choice - I thought you were here to sort things out. I do not have to worry about mis-spelled words, as I don't write the rules. Typos happen, but not a whole sentence.
The complacency astounds me, you want perfection from the people but are not interested in getting the rules right - even those that clearly appear in the SoP, by which we are all to be judged, by you
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Actually they brought me here because I am the guy with a sickle.Your choice - I thought you were here to sort things out. I do not have to worry about mis-spelled words, as I don't write the rules. Typos happen, but not a whole sentence.
The complacency astounds me, you want perfection from the people but are not interested in getting the rules right - even those that clearly appear in the SoP, by which we are all to be judged, by you
You see, Debi gave her heart to this forum.
Now it's my turn.
At this time we are trying to address an unhealthy attitude that usually revolves around complaining and bickering.
Thanks,
Ed
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The rules don't seem to apply in MJ against Christians, they only seem to apply with a Messianic.
We have people in here now that are not MJ teaching against MJ's, and reporting doesn't seem to do anything at all. On the other hand, I can go into GT sporting a Messianic icon and just say,'' HI.''
Then I am reported for even opening my mouth in a Christian only forum, and to make matters worse, the person who reports me in Christian only can come in here and literally say anything against what Messianics believe, and nothing at all is done.
Just because a person slaps on a Messianic icon, he can talk here while everyone knows that he is dishonest about what he really is.
I would love to be able to speak in GT and other places, but I have been shot down at every turn.
And that's what makes the debate of rules so funny, what rules?
There is a set of rules for Christian, and a different set of rules for MJ's.
Now the Christian might not see the difference, but MJ's do.
Before I can speak in Christian only forums, I am told to accept the creed, and to change my icon, well, it would be dishonest, and it would be me compromising what I believe.
But I love this forum, and I don't mind the rules, but its not like the rules apply fairly at all.
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Avodat
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Actually they brought me here because I am the guy with a sickle.
You see, Debi gave her heart to this forum.
Now it's my turn.
At this time we are trying to address an unhealthy attitude that usually revolves around complaining and bickering.
Thanks,
Ed
Awkward! I've only responded to the posts rebutting mine, as one might expect.
Back to the sabbatical from posting until this all gets some sense in to it.
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I would like to add that I always hope Christians can come here and speak their opinions without reverting to using a Messianic icon just to be here.
I have never been against anyone coming here to speak their own mind, but I would hope that they don't slap a Messianic icon on, and then represent Messianics as if they were really a Messianic.
I like the debate, so I like Christians coming here and having a different view.
But one cannot help but notice how the rules are strange when it comes to MJ's.
I have never been against anyone coming here to speak their own mind, but I would hope that they don't slap a Messianic icon on, and then represent Messianics as if they were really a Messianic.
I like the debate, so I like Christians coming here and having a different view.
But one cannot help but notice how the rules are strange when it comes to MJ's.
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HannibalFlavius
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Glad to hear that.
Do y'all mind if I start posting on this board again. I promise to "behave"........
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You already know that you don't have to ask me that, you know I love ya already.
Might have to buy you books and send you to school, but you will be ok with me.
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To a certain degree.
Do all Admins have sickles?
...
My position I occupy is 1 of 4 Advisors.
(I am sure you would have some comments on 4 horsemen ...
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