sex trafficking?

Im_A · Oct 29, 2009

twistedsketch said:
Why can't we nab the suspects?

Vigilante justice should never be the answer. It sounds good until you get the wrong guy by mistake. This is why we need a government, which provides fair trials.

I don't know about anyone else (Boondock Saints playing the overall idea here) if I heard about say a sex trafficker out on parole or just got out of jail and say he was murdered, would I have any remorse? No. Would I think justice was served in the murder/killing? Yes.

Is it justice in the modern sense? No. Is it justice when people get the beauty of the American justice system by the unlimited appeal system? Is it justice when the harlot of justice(my disgust with so called justice will not leave me for awhile at this present time) is blind but peaks due to the age of the offended in sexual crimes and both the defense and the prosecuting attorney creates a situation where there is no justice? Is it vengeance? Maybe. Eye for an eye comes into play here and since a loss was created, a loss is taken...just like with property or capital.

Then again I can agree with you. Yet even though I support let's say the death penalty(I do btw), your own argument goes against that and its a reliable argument.

I would like to believe that all trials are fair but I don't and won't for a good time now so sometimes I personally see the vigilante as the one who succeeds where fair justice doesn't. The topic at hand is one of them topics I'd put under reasonable reasons to react in a vigilante manner. It doesn't make me feel good, but fair justice is sometimes too fair in my opinion.

Sketcher · Oct 29, 2009

Im_A said:
I don't know about anyone else (Boondock Saints playing the overall idea here) if I heard about say a sex trafficker out on parole or just got out of jail and say he was murdered, would I have any remorse? No. Would I think justice was served in the murder/killing? Yes.

Is it justice in the modern sense? No. Is it justice when people get the beauty of the American justice system by the unlimited appeal system? Is it justice when the harlot of justice(my disgust with so called justice will not leave me for awhile at this present time) is blind but peaks due to the age of the offended in sexual crimes and both the defense and the prosecuting attorney creates a situation where there is no justice? Is it vengeance? Maybe. Eye for an eye comes into play here and since a loss was created, a loss is taken...just like with property or capital.

Then again I can agree with you. Yet even though I support let's say the death penalty(I do btw), your own argument goes against that and its a reliable argument.

I would like to believe that all trials are fair but I don't and won't for a good time now so sometimes I personally see the vigilante as the one who succeeds where fair justice doesn't. The topic at hand is one of them topics I'd put under reasonable reasons to react in a vigilante manner. It doesn't make me feel good, but fair justice is sometimes too fair in my opinion.

Oh, I'd agree that a guilty person who is able to get off on technicalities should get his just desserts on way or the other. If he were to die outside the system he's so good at gaming, I wouldn't have any complaints. But the problem with vigilante justice being embraced so much is that innocent people get caught up in that too. I've read one too many stories of guys being accused of rape who were then beaten into a bloody pulp, only for it to turn out that the alleged victim was lying the whole time. This is why we need trials, to reduce that as much as possible.

IDDQD said:
I have a massive loathing/hatred/distrust for anything pertaining to government. I'm going to leave it at that so I don't derail this thread with my own (unsavory) views of the government and its institutions.

They're bad at a lot of things, but one of the things we need them for - in fact, the main reason we have government - is to run a criminal justice system. Otherwise, you have people running around with vendettas on each other, and innocent people suffering at the hands of the vengeful.

Im_A · Oct 29, 2009

twistedsketch said:
Oh, I'd agree that a guilty person who is able to get off on technicalities should get his just desserts on way or the other. If he were to die outside the system he's so good at gaming, I wouldn't have any complaints. But the problem with vigilante justice being embraced so much is that innocent people get caught up in that too. I've read one too many stories of guys being accused of rape who were then beaten into a bloody pulp, only for it to turn out that the alleged victim was lying the whole time. This is why we need trials, to reduce that as much as possible.

I agree with that. I remember having to hold back because of someone special to me being raped and after I found out. It is easy to think, "Go and do something to him".

The consequences is the downer note to me for being a vigilante. Regardless of how pure the heart of a vigilante is, there's legal consequences for taking the law into your own hands, which in A LOT OF CASES, I deem as unfair to the vigilante but like you stated(on a different angle tho) hopefully it reduces the mistakes as much as it can even though it is a very imperfect solution. Sometimes it seems confusing which one is the 'lesser evil'.

Takkles · Jul 16, 2013

After donating and working with love146 for a while now, I have no idea. All we can do is fund raise and donate at the moment, helping in any way we can.

trentlogain2 · Jul 17, 2013

What do you think is the solution to this worldwide problem?

Another Natalie Grant song.

Natalie Grant - I Will Not Be Moved - Official Music Video - YouTube

you know, for someone like Grant who seeks justice and compassion for children involved in this horrible crime, she's also a pretty good musician.

Touma · Jul 17, 2013

If you watch porn, quit watching it or looking at it. There are quite a few people who are in the porn industry because of sex slavery.

AmericanSamurai · Jul 17, 2013

Wow, you know its an old thread if its got Kevlite in it. Also that GQ Chris guy, LOL.

Sketcher · Jul 17, 2013

Touma said:
If you watch porn, quit watching it or looking at it. There are quite a few people who are in the porn industry because of sex slavery.

Not that I'm defending porn, but do you have research to back that up? Are there any well-known porn stars who got their start because they were trafficked, or participated in or profited from trafficking?

HighwayMan · Jul 18, 2013

There is just too much of it going on, especially in underdeveloped countries where the good guys are outnumbered by the bad guys 1 to 1000.

Touma · Jul 22, 2013

Sketcher said:
Not that I'm defending porn, but do you have research to back that up? Are there any well-known porn stars who got their start because they were trafficked, or participated in or profited from trafficking?

http://www.protectionproject.org/wp.../11/TPP-J-HR-Civ-Socy_Vol-5_2012-w-cover1.pdf

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2555734047001/is-the-porn-industry-connected-with-sex-trafficking/

The Connections Between Pornography and Sex Trafficking | Covenant Eyes

http://www.cwfa.org/brochures/CWA_Pornography-and-SexTrafficking.pdf

There was a recent bust (with in the last year) of some MS-13 thugs who were offering young girls the chance to be 'models', which lured them away from home and they were sold into sexual slavery.

The connection is there, but many want to ignore it because they have to give up their precious porn.

MehGuy · Jul 22, 2013

The amateur stuff can't be tainted.. for it's pure.

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