So, the question remains.. if God works through the State, why christians oppose State's law allowing gays to marry if God does not mind it. As far as I see, christians go against God while opposing State's laws.
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So, if civil law does not cancel church wedding, then even with the divorce papers from the State those two stay church married?
Does that mean the church people are climbing into the protected by God territory, the ground of the State? By what authority they do such a rebellion thing? Are they not afraid the wrath of God who commands to obey the State?
My religious beliefs tell me that I have to spread them all over the Earth with no concern for other people, either they want it or not
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Ok, now i have to chime in in defense of those against same sex couple marriages. It is part of our form of government to debate and vote. It isn't against God to do this since, according to the Bible, God put this government over us.
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Well, there is that.
I presumed Christians knew State marriage licenses were a civil marriage and doesn't necessitate a church marriage.
Of course there are those Christians who have said that the term, "Gay Christian", is an oxymoron.
So perhaps I should just stop presuming about what Christians know. :o
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The church wedding alone would not garner a couple the State and Federal rights that the civil contract wedding affords.
A couple could divorce through the State and consider themselves still married in the eyes of God and the church. Which can be said to be what sustains the scripture that decrees a person is committing adultery if they divorce and remarry while their former spouse is still living.
However, that church wedding does not then accord that couple those rights and benefits they formerly had when married by State contract. (civil marriage).
Oh, there's a hornets nest. (yes) But I didn't say that. The scriptures did. The commission of the disciples didn't include shoving the truth of Jesus down peoples throats.My religious beliefs tell me that I have to spread them all over the Earth with no concern for other people, either they want it or not
Matthew 28:16-20 Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and said to them, All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age.[
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Concerning the issue..If a gay conducted a repentance and quit living with the other party that does not mean he had changed his very essence, the substance of being gay. He will always be drawn towards SS even restraining factor remains for the rest of his life, in other words his life becomes a torture, not a joy.
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This is confusing. What is the point of getting a divorce if they will still be considering themselves as wed?
Well, all these writings which we, the smart ones do here, will let the others see what reasonable thinking is))
That’s your point of view, goes a bit off with the Christian majority view on the issue, but as everyone is entitled to have the right to have one, I still respect it))
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Yes, I quite agree.
The tragedy then becomes one that is the responsibility of those Christians who would rather see the life of torture for the sake of what they believe is a saved soul residing in an either celibate body, or one that goes through the motions of appearing straight.
As if that could fool God as to their true nature being suppressed for what then would be appearances and security of the Christian that would prefer the image and likeness, to the truth.
When the truth in God is Joy, that makes for quite the choice.
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Depends on the church, but most places, yes.
How should I know what divorced people think?
Uhuh.My religious beliefs tell me that I have to spread them all over the Earth with no concern for other people, either they want it or not
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Presumably people who get divorced don't consider themselves wed.[/quote]
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You'd be surprised. Or maybe you wouldn't be. Either way, there are a lot of Christians who think that the SSM issue would see their church marrying gay people, and, sadly, a disapppointingly large number of Christians who know very well that SSM is a civil matter, yet happily spread disinformation about how the evil gays want to force churches to conduct homosexual marriages against their beliefs.Well, there is that.
I presumed Christians knew State marriage licenses were a civil marriage and doesn't necessitate a church marriage.
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Well then that willful and intentional spreading of misinformation propaganda, makes gay civil rights equality, the sex lives of people not their business, secondary to those type Christian's sin of lying, perpetrating a fraud, and sowing discord among the community of Christ, while invoking the name of God in the process.
In which case, they might what to consider how they'll answer to God for having perpetrated that which God hates most and invoking his name and authority to do so.
They might also want to pay attention during thunder storms. Crispy critter status is God's way of saying; shouldn't a done that! Bad, bad you straight reformed piece of walking charcoal. Bad,bad!
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Not angry in the slightest. I don't take the attitudes of those described in my reply personally.
That was quirky humor at the end, to offset the visual I was getting imagining those types answering to God.
That was quirky humor at the end, to offset the visual I was getting imagining those types answering to God.
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Lost me there. Where I live our laws differ. My mother was single and would claim me as spouse on her income tax when I was a teenager, which was not against the law. My husband and I are married but we both claim single when it comes to tax (more is taken off of our paychecks and we get a bigger return at the end of the year < this again is not illegal).
Financial assistance to those with dependent children are needed at times, its called social assistance(welfare, either full or partial) here.
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Not necessarily civil. There are Churches here that marry SS couples. A denomination may be for the marriage of SS couples however each church in that denomination is able to decide on their own. So if a couple wants to marry the Minister would check with the congregation and if most of the congregation is for it then they are allowed to marry the couple, if not then they help out by referring the couple to someone who will marry them. Same with OS couples. A church refused to marry us 18 years ago(we belong to different churches and were common law for 3 years)...so we went and found one that would
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I get the second of those. The first, however, seems incorrect. But I presume that you are speaking of Canada where it could be exactly as you say.
Yes, well, I was trying to illustrate a fact of life. Those people who like to say that their marital status is not in any way affected by what the government decrees concerning marriage, family, and etc. have not thought it through.
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