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I have been a Christian for 9 months. I have found a church that is increadibly supportive and loving and I am very greatful for all their support.
I have been diagnosed bipolar since 1992 and believe that I have actually had this illness all of my life. The first time I was suicidal was when I was 9 years old and my mood often transitions rapidly from mania to depression. When I describe myself I say, "I am bipolar" rather then saying, "I have bipolar". I do that because I believe that my illness has a direct influence on my personality, my decisions and my view of life. I don't know how to seperate who I am from this illness that effects every aspect of my life, and always has.
The people at my church often say that God will heal me of being bipolar. I have mixed emotions about that. I would like to not have extreme mood swings on one hand, but I don't know who I am without my illness, it has been a part of my life for so long.
I believe that God made me who I am just as someone who is born with physcial abnormalities would believe that God made them that way for a reason. When people tell me that it is not God's will for me to be bipolar I feel as if they are saying that I was not fearfully and wonderfully made, that I need to be changed because this is not what God intended for me. But, if that is true, why have I had this illness all of my life? Sometimes I feel like people are saying that I was made defective and not made the way God intended.
There is a verse in the Bible that also bothers me a little, James 1:5-8
If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double minded man, unstable in all his ways.
Being double minded is the very definition of bipolar disorder. Being unstable is something I transition in and out of on a regular basis and the impulsive nature of the illness brings doubt that moves like the waves of the sea.
I want to be fearfully and wonderfully made just like everyone else. If I ask God to heal me of this illness that defines who I am, it is like saying that I am defective and not made the way God wanted me to be.
It's not that I WANT to be bipolar or that I would have chosen this illness if I had had a choice, but I AM BIPOLAR. It is my thinking. It is my personality. It colors my point of view and it influences my decisions. Even my decision to come to accept Christ was directly influenced by being bipolar.
Is it wrong of me to think this way? should I believe that I was not made this way? Should I belive that I was made defectively?
I wrestle with these questions daily and would appreciate your feedback.
 

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1Corinthians 15

42 So it is with the resurrection of the dead:
Sown in corruption, raised in incorruption;
43 sown in dishonor, raised in glory;
sown in weakness, raised in power;
44 sown a natural body, raised a spiritual body.

...

50 Brothers, I tell you this: Flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, and corruption cannot inherit incorruption. 51 Listen! I am telling you a mystery:
We will not all fall asleep,
but we will all be changed,
52 in a moment, in the blink of an eye,
at the last trumpet.
For the trumpet will sound,
and the dead will be raised incorruptible,
and we will be changed.
53 For this corruptible must be clothed
with incorruptibility,
and this mortal must be clothed
with immortality.
54 When this corruptible is clothed
with incorruptibility,
and this mortal is clothed
with immortality,
then the saying that is written will take place:
Death has been swallowed up in victory.[o]
55 Death, where is your victory?
Death, where is your sting?[p]
56 Now the sting of death is sin,
and the power of sin is the law.
57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory
through our Lord Jesus Christ!

Though we are fearfully and wonderfully made, we are made not for this world, but the next one. This world is imperfect and corrupted, so this sickness is not part of how God has made you. God is good and his works are good, so bipolar disorder cannot be one of his works. You will be healed! Though you may have to wait until Christ comes again to be free of it, rest assured God did not make you bipolar to define who you are, but to define who you are becoming in Christ, in spite of your illness.
 
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Scripture says that all of us were fearfully and wonderfully made. That is how God made us. Having bipolar disorder does not negate that.

The people who tell you that God will heal you, and that He does not want you to be Bipolar have not read 2 Corinthians. Paul prayed three times for God to remove the thorn in his flesh, and God told him "No." He told Paul, "My grace is sufficient for you."

Having said all that, I will say that God does not want any illness, physical or mental, to define who we are. He wants us to be defined by Him, and Him alone. When we learn who we are in Christ, we come to see ourselves from His point of view.

Here are some Truths about who we really are.

Who I Am In Christ
If you are a Christian, then the statements below are true of you.
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I am accepted...
John 1:12
I am God's child.
John 15:15
As a disciple, I am a friend of Jesus Christ.
Romans 5:1
I have been justified.
1 Corinthians 6:17
I am united with the Lord, and I am one with Him in spirit.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20
I have been bought with a price and I belong to God.
1 Corinthians 12:27
I am a member of Christ's body.
Ephesians 1:3-8
I have been chosen by God and adopted as His child.
Colossians 1:13-14
I have been redeemed and forgiven of all my sins.
Colossians 2:9-10
I am complete in Christ.
Hebrews 4:14-16
I have direct access to the throne of grace through Jesus Christ.

I am secure...
Romans 8:1-2
I am free from condemnation.
Romans 8:28
I am assured that God works for my good in all circumstances.
Romans 8:31-39
I am free from any condemnation brought against me and I cannot be separated from the love of God.
2 Corinthians 1:21-22
I have been established, anointed and sealed by God.
Colossians 3:1-4
I am hidden with Christ in God.
Philippians 1:6
I am confident that God will complete the good work He started in me.
Philippians 3:20
I am a citizen of heaven.
2 Timothy 1:7
I have not been given a spirit of fear but of power, love and a sound mind.
1 John 5:18
I am born of God and the evil one cannot touch me.

I am significant...
John 15:5
I am a branch of Jesus Christ, the true vine, and a channel of His life.
John 15:16
I have been chosen and appointed to bear fruit.
1 Corinthians 3:16
I am God's temple.
2 Corinthians 5:17-21
I am a minister of reconciliation for God.
Ephesians 2:6
I am seated with Jesus Christ in the heavenly realm.
Ephesians 2:10
I am God's workmanship.
Ephesians 3:12
I may approach God with freedom and confidence.
Philippians 4:13
I can do all things through Christ, who strengthens me.
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The thing about having a mental illness is that it resides in my brain. Since that is where I think and where I speak to myself, it is very hard to seperate my identity from the influence of my illness.
I have several other medical issues, but none of them plays such a central role in how I see myself. For exampl, As a bipolar person I am very impulsive. It can be increadibly hard to control my actions even when that little voice inside of me says I should control my actions. More often then not, the symptoms of bipolar dictate my behavior as well as my thinking. It is the very nature of the illness, if I could control myself, I supose I wouldn't be bipolar.
 
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I have a few things to share with this post but have been too tired to form my thoughts, I ran across this translation of this verse and wanted to share.

The Lord will work out his plans for my life - for your faithful love, O Lord endures forever. Don't abandon me, for you made me.

~ Psalm 138:8, NLT
 
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I have been a Christian for 9 months. I have found a church that is increadibly supportive and loving and I am very greatful for all their support.
I have been diagnosed bipolar since 1992 and believe that I have actually had this illness all of my life. The first time I was suicidal was when I was 9 years old and my mood often transitions rapidly from mania to depression. When I describe myself I say, "I am bipolar" rather then saying, "I have bipolar". I do that because I believe that my illness has a direct influence on my personality, my decisions and my view of life. I don't know how to seperate who I am from this illness that effects every aspect of my life, and always has.
The people at my church often say that God will heal me of being bipolar. I have mixed emotions about that. I would like to not have extreme mood swings on one hand, but I don't know who I am without my illness, it has been a part of my life for so long.
I believe that God made me who I am just as someone who is born with physcial abnormalities would believe that God made them that way for a reason. When people tell me that it is not God's will for me to be bipolar I feel as if they are saying that I was not fearfully and wonderfully made, that I need to be changed because this is not what God intended for me. But, if that is true, why have I had this illness all of my life? Sometimes I feel like people are saying that I was made defective and not made the way God intended.
There is a verse in the Bible that also bothers me a little, James 1:5-8
If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask of God, who gives to all liberally and without reproach, and it will be given to him. But let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for he who doubts is like a wave of the sea driven and tossed by the wind. For let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord; he is a double minded man, unstable in all his ways.
Being double minded is the very definition of bipolar disorder. Being unstable is something I transition in and out of on a regular basis and the impulsive nature of the illness brings doubt that moves like the waves of the sea.
I want to be fearfully and wonderfully made just like everyone else. If I ask God to heal me of this illness that defines who I am, it is like saying that I am defective and not made the way God wanted me to be.
It's not that I WANT to be bipolar or that I would have chosen this illness if I had had a choice, but I AM BIPOLAR. It is my thinking. It is my personality. It colors my point of view and it influences my decisions. Even my decision to come to accept Christ was directly influenced by being bipolar.
Is it wrong of me to think this way? should I believe that I was not made this way? Should I belive that I was made defectively?
I wrestle with these questions daily and would appreciate your feedback.
I would say "they tell me I'm bi-polar, I would never own any diagnosos, I suppose the woman who reached out and touched the garment of Jesus could of agreed with her doctors and just excepted that her bleeding couldn't be healed, BUT SHE DIDN"T! that is where healing begins, not excepting what your told to be your lot in life, I would reject any and all negative findings and reports, and say the report of the Lord is I can be healed and made whole, not one healing in the bible can be found where there is not faith connected. I believe you can be totally set free from bi-polarism, in fact I think it would be much easier to heal then what I was set free from.
 
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The thing about having a mental illness is that it resides in my brain. Since that is where I think and where I speak to myself, it is very hard to seperate my identity from the influence of my illness.
I have several other medical issues, but none of them plays such a central role in how I see myself. For exampl, As a bipolar person I am very impulsive. It can be increadibly hard to control my actions even when that little voice inside of me says I should control my actions. More often then not, the symptoms of bipolar dictate my behavior as well as my thinking. It is the very nature of the illness, if I could control myself, I supose I wouldn't be bipolar.

If any of us could completely control ourselves, we wouldn't really be human. Maybe you should pray that God will just use your bipolar disorder, to work through its weaknesses for his will...
 
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The thing about having a mental illness is that it resides in my brain. Since that is where I think and where I speak to myself, it is very hard to seperate my identity from the influence of my illness.
I have several other medical issues, but none of them plays such a central role in how I see myself. For exampl, As a bipolar person I am very impulsive. It can be increadibly hard to control my actions even when that little voice inside of me says I should control my actions. More often then not, the symptoms of bipolar dictate my behavior as well as my thinking. It is the very nature of the illness, if I could control myself, I supose I wouldn't be bipolar.

When I tell my therapist or psychiatrist that I have done something impulsively, neither lets me use my bipolar disorder as an excuse. I am still told to take responsibility for my behavior. I have been taught coping strategies to deal with the symptoms, and to help me resist the temptations that cause me to behave impulsively.

Two years ago, I got sober from alcoholism, after a horrific two year relapse. I also have Binge Eating Disorder, and have been a cutter. I use my coping strategies to resist those urges. The most unnatural thing for an alcoholic to do is to NOT drink when the urge hits them. Yet, as someone with bipolar disorder, I have successfully NOT had a drink in two years.

It is possible to change your self-perception and to resist the urges to behave impulsively. It's not always fun, but as God told Paul in 2 Corinthians, "My grace is sufficient for you." Paul also taught us in Philippians, "I can do all things through Christ who gives me strength." There is no disclaimer for either verse. And, I am living proof that it is possible to change one's behavior and not give into impulses.

22 years ago, I was out of control, hurting my family, and destroying my home. Now, I have a loving relationship with my children, and I treat them with dignity and respect. I am active in my church's Ladies Bible Study, and am being transformed by God's Word every time I work on that study.
 
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