Corporate greed? All I see is a bunch of greedy, self-righteous, spoiled brats who expect something for nothing. The constitution acknowledges that there are only three basic rights granted to us by God: The right to life, the right to own personal property, and the right to liberty, aka self-determination. Which one of those do corporations, as a whole, deprive you of?
The GOP is corporate-controlled?!? Where did you get that idea? Over the past few elections NY bankers have given about 80% of their political contributions to the Democrats. And with this past election, Obama received more money from Wall Street than any other presidential candidate EVER! (Btw, among the biggest contributors were Goldman Sachs and Citibank, who also just happened to be amongst the biggest beneficiaries of the huge federal bailout. Hmmm.)
I wonder why these Occupods walked right past the apartment building of George Soros, who keeps his money in off-shore bank accounts, in order to protest at the homes of Rupert Murdoch and David Koch, neither of whom are Wall Street bankers, or have received any bailout money, and whose businesses actually produce something! All this is in stark contrast to Soros, who made his money in currency speculation. In other words, he makes money by going around the world and deliberately causing panic within sovereign nations, just so he pocket the difference when their currencies collapse. Murdoch makes money by selling newspapers and making movies and TV shows, Koch makes money by making and selling fertilizer, and Soros makes money off the misery of others. Who should be the object of protest here?)
Who's definition of fair are we talking about? The Bible is quite clear that a flax tax applied to everyone is what's fair. The top 10%, on average, are each paying their fair share along with the shares of 6 other people/families. The bottom 50% aren't paying anything, not even their own fair share.
I just got out my pastors bible and looked up and read every scripture that has to do with tax and taxes;
Matt 5:46 17:24 21:31 22:19 17:25 22:17
Luke 23:2
Romans 13:7
And not one thing you said here turned out to be true...
This isn't the Bill O'reily show please facts only...
Sounds like you have humanity all figured out, corporations are Godly and the meek and infirm are the scum of the Earth
Proverbs 14:31 He who oppresses the poor reproaches his maker, but he who honors him has mercy on the needy.
Yeah, and it shouldn't have happened under Bush either. So what? Bad policy is bad policy, no matter which political party is implementing it.
Right, and Obama multiplied it and federal spending overall by a few hundred percent -- to no perceivable benefit to the economy. And then he introduced "quantitative easing" (QE1, QE2, QE3, and counting) -- to the U.S. dollar's detriment. And he poured over half a billion dollars into companies to supposedly develop "green energy" technology and "green jobs," which each went belly-up. One could go on and on. The U.S. federal debt has now topped $15 trillion (and at its current rate is expected to top $17 trillion by the end of Obama's first term). He effectively made the U.S. the brokest nation in history. If you took all of the U.S. debt and liabilities, stepped into a time machine and went backwards in history, spending $1000 per second as you went back, you would have to go back to ca. 2600 BC before you reached about the same amount that the U.S. now owes in debt. America hasn't just overspent itself, it's overspent practically all of civilizational history!
No, it was govt interference in the housing and mortgage market that's the problem. The Carter administration passed the Community Reinvestment Act, which forced banks to loosen their lending standards and thus to approve mortgages to borrowers they would not have otherwise, threatening them with huge fines if they didn't meet certain quotas (usually having to do with granting loans to minorities). The Clinton govt didn't think this went far enough and so further guaranteed these mortgages through the quasi-govt entities Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The banks essentially responded by saying, "Fine, if you're going to fine us if we don't approve these bad loans, but you'll also guarantee them, then why not? Of course, we'll comply and grant bad loans all you want." Which they did. Which resulted in the grossly inflated housing market. Which inevitably all came crashing down.
Oh brother. You lefties have ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, NPR, The New York Times, Newsweek, Time Magazine, etc, etc, ad nauseum, ad infinitum, and yet you STILL insist on bellyaching incessantly about the one, single cable news network that's marginally right-of-centre. I'm sorry, but you do realize that's kind of pathetic, don't you?
I sincerely hope that as you typed this, your proverbial tongue was planted firmly in your proverbial cheek. Otherwise, it's kinda tough to believe that anybody who identifies himself as a Christian would seriously regard businesses supposedly not paying their fair share in taxes as "the ultimate lie."
You honestly think people are going to be at all motivated to risk, in what many cases amounts to life-savings, in order to start up a business only to have the govt take half of what's earned? Gee, if raising taxes was all it took to solve economic woes, why not really get your economy booming by raising taxes to 100%?!?
We had people saying similar things here where I live in Alberta, Canada. Our provincial govt, led by the Progressive Conservatives (which has unfortunately been far more 'progressive' than it's been 'conservative' as of late), wanted to raise royalty rates on oil companies operating here. True conservatives warned that this would drive them away; that they would pull up stakes and move elsewhere to do business. Those on the political left were all for it, claiming that these evil oil companies weren't paying their fair share to begin with and that most wouldn't leave anyway because, where would they go? Alberta is a great place to do business, they argued, even if they did have to pay more and therefore didn't make as much per barrel as they had before. And besides, surely even those oil companies who did leave would be replaced by others.
No, I wouldn't take a doctor seriously if he was essentially asking ME such a question. But verticordious' point doesn't rely on his properly identifying in which historical document the rights to life, private ownership, and liberty are listed. His argument is merely that such rights as having your student loans forgiven, or a guaranteed job after earning a post-secondary degree are not listed anywhere.
These taxes were around 50% before the Bush tax cuts and we were operating with a surplus... America was doing just fine with that. What does capitol gains and inheritance tax have to do with starting a business?
