What do creationists think about creationism targeting young children?

AV1611VET said:

Well --- aside from all that rigmarole --- I'd word it this way:

The answers cannot be achieved by science.

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Depends what the questions are. Questions of philosophy can't be answered by science, sure. Questions of nature and technology generally can, though.

Science is ahead of religion in this matter. Religion cant answer any questions. Not even about itself.

gaara4158 said:

Depends what the questions are. Questions of philosophy can't be answered by science, sure. Questions of nature and technology generally can, though.

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Again, the question I would ask my child (and require him to know) would simply be: What are the 4th and 5th words in the Bible?

Hespera said:

Science is ahead of religion in this matter. Religion cant answer any questions. Not even about itself.

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And it gets back to what I said recently:

Science is too myopic to be any kind of threat to the Truths of the Bible.

AV1611VET said:

Again, the question I would ask my child (and require him to know) would simply be: What are the 4th and 5th words in the Bible?

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Would you hold this to be more important than the socratic method or scientific inquiry?

AV sez..."And it gets back to what I said recently:

Science is too myopic to be any kind of threat to the Truths of the Bible."QUOTE////////////



Hespera sez:

No "threat" to the lost language of Atlantis, the seven cities of gold, the cyclops, the lost pyramid or the secret alien base in obama molars either, and for the same reasons.

gaara4158 said:

Would you hold this to be more important than the socratic method or scientific inquiry?

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Of course.

AV1611VET said:

Of course.

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So if logic itself contradicted the Bible, you would argue that logic is wrong?

gaara4158 said:

So if logic itself contradicted the Bible, you would argue that logic is wrong?

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Yup ---

Isaiah 55:8-9 said:

8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.
9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.

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AV1611VET said:

Yup ---

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You would contradict yourself to do so, since an argument against reason assumes reason.

gaara4158 said:

You would contradict yourself to do so, since an argument against reason assumes reason.

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Whatever --- as long as my children know the 4th and 5th words of the Bible, then they know Creationism 101.

AV1611VET said:

Whatever --- as long as my children know the 4th and 5th words of the Bible, then they know Creationism 101.

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LOL

gaara4158 said:

Word salad much?

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Contempt, the devouring beast in the field, laboring not but to perish without a doubt, the singularity unable to bare witness, blind to what is risen and sustaining meaning. Oh Star, where art thou in time?

In order to measure the Word it must be revealed, not unto the shadow measuring time but, unto the Bride. The Truth is not a choice and does not change, the Bride is risen not by darkness but by the revelation of the Groom. What is not known in darkness is ...unbecoming. The day of reckoning reveals the bitter root polluting the water of life pouring out in the field, pouring into the cup and the harvest is consumed by the love sustaining the field. Yahshua has overcome the strong delusion in the cup and is the Lord of the Harvest.

Come on, there is no doubt, the Father, as with the Bride, the Truth, labor in love. Yahshua is the sustaining Light, reckoning, revelation. There is no question why children are risen and no question why darkness witnesses the parable. Contempt is just a manifestation of that fact. If persons are as a child in question, rather than as man in darkness, persons shall know kids will be given answers to questions by what is risen, not by what is fallen, As the Bride and Groom are risen, so shall the children of God in Christ be given the body and blood sustaining life.

Seek the Holy Spirit my friend, do eat and be sustained. Try to put some oil on the next time you see salad on your table.

Judgment said:

Try to put some oil on the next time you see salad on your table.

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Ah! You should've said that the first time. I don't think the mods like you dragging this discussion to culinary matters, though.

(Serously, though, please tell me you speak like that in real life too. That would be awesome)

iremouth said:

And the man said give so I gave, and the never will be now because for all who are without shall be within in my name will it be done, for whom so ever wishes to be free will need to be taken to the pillars of light or they will never get pregnant, put out the light whence thou goeth to thy bed else death will rage on the land for ever, so it is written in the book of Fred, garbage breedeth garbage, out of garbage cometh more garbage, if thine head has been filled with the swill of con man thou wilst never see the heaven they promise, but they will however spend thy dough and laugheth they to their bank, for it is written that many will be told but few will cough up their dough, but even with the few that giveth they maketh plenty of shekels, I pray that thou wilt one day see sense.

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I see you are risen from a black hole and here you are praying to it. There is no intelligence praying to a black hole. Buy wisdom and sell it not. Your proverbial is in the wind. Look, the prophetic reality of contempt flows like a river that is polluted and as the river is people sealed in the void, the river is dried up and Babylon is fallen.

Even if persons are praying to a void expressed by contempt, principle is not lost. The Truth will be taught to the children by the Truth, there is no choice, the Truth does not change the meaning of life, it is sustaining love and is the full revelation. Persons that are posted in defense of a void and in contempt stand fast, they are just a tool of revelation that is easily used for good. Kids will overcome the void if they are honest enough and seek the Truth. Kids know when they are subject to persons that are void and in contempt. The kids that reject the void, reject contempt, they will be found by the Truth.

WilliamduBois said:

Ah! You should've said that the first time. I don't think the mods like you dragging this discussion to culinary matters, though.

(Serously, though, please tell me you speak like that in real life too. That would be awesome)

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In the Word of God in Christ, Oil represents the Holy Spirit anointment. Your offer is defined by persons offering ''word salad'' as an expression of what they do not bare witness of, that being the Holy Spirit. Persons in contempt offer contempt as a witness.

Seriously, the parable is upon my lips and as a witness of the Holy Spirit, the Holy Spirit is offered unto the harvests.

Judgment said:

I see you are risen from a black hole and here you are praying to it. There is no intelligence praying to a black hole. Buy wisdom and sell it not. Your proverbial is in the wind. Look, the prophetic reality of contempt flows like a river that is polluted and as the river is people sealed in the void, the river is dried up and Babylon is fallen.

Even if persons are praying to a void expressed by contempt, principle is not lost. The Truth will be taught to the children by the Truth, there is no choice, the Truth does not change the meaning of life, it is sustaining love and is the full revelation. Persons that are posted in defense of a void and in contempt stand fast, they are just a tool of revelation that is easily used for good. Kids will overcome the void if they are honest enough and seek the Truth. Kids know when they are subject to persons that are void and in contempt. The kids that reject the void, reject contempt, they will be found by the Truth.

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Please do not spam the boards with messages that mean nothing to anyone but you. You have been reported.

iremouth said:

Again we have returned to the question of the brain being damaged by religion, in this case I fear the worst, that holy spirit sure has a lot to answer for.

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In order to heal your brain damage in your case, the Holy Spirit needs to heal thy wound. One thing for sure, the religion of offering contempt represents the void persons need to exit.

Judgment said:

Ah, the question of parents and creation means nothing to you other than your claim of dominion which is based on your opposition to creation and your lack of knowledge pertaining to the intelligent design. Please do not spam the board with your claim of dominion, you lack authority and credibility. If you can't tolerate creation and do not know the intelligent design that is written in the Bible and you don't want kids to be taught by their parents, guess what? in order to find peace, you need to be separated.

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We tolerate creationists quite well on this board. That, and evolution, are the topics.

Parents can teach their children whatever they want, as it has always been. They cannot, however, insist on teaching other peoples' children any old thing they happen to make up, and Intelligent Design is arguably in the category of 'any old thing someone made up'.

It is not polite to tell any member to leave the board:

in order to find peace, you need to be separated.

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