Kentucky Creation Museum

OldStyleBlues · Jun 3, 2009

Anyone been to this place? I was curious about it when I heard it was opening. I was in the area a few days back and had to see what all of the fuss was about. I found the place very slick. They evidently got a good graphic design team to put together the displays, and the animatronics and vignettes were ok. However all of this slickery is geared at children which I find shady.
What the Creation Museum is doing is 'dumming down' the children who so innocently look to the adults for truth. By telling children dinosaurs were on the Ark approximately 6000 years ago when the world rebuilt after the flood. And the age of the planet is approximately 8000 years old negates and insults not only the children's intellect but the body of investigative science which have natural history: palentology proof the dinosaurs became extinct 68 million years ago. What the adults are doing at this so called museum is force the young mind to brainwashing of facts never questioned but retold with authority. A museum by definition houses artifacts or authentic relics depicting, by association of displayed items, of reliable representation to viewers. A museum that intentionally ignores historical, geographical, undisputed bodies of scientific data to mislead or polarize young minds to avoid the chance to discover their own truth...is a disgrace and shameful display of naivite or outrageous ignorance. I know it's a free country and I do support the individuals right to worship/pray to whatever God they want, however the nonsense that this so called "Museum" is putting out is going to do more harm than good to impressionable children.

arunma · Jun 3, 2009

I have to agree with you. It sounds like this museum doesn't do justice to either Scripture or science (not that you would concern yourself terribly much with the former). I too think that this museum is a waste of resources and ought not to be open. But, as you say, it's a free country. Without resorting to uncharitabe insults, what sort of action would you suggest?

juvenissun · Jun 3, 2009

If anything exist, there must be a reason. Why do you think the "museum" still exist (profitable) today? Do you call those who gave money to it dumb, ignorant or even criminal?

You paid the ticket. But I don't think you will go again. So, when would you predict that it will be closed?

OldStyleBlues · Jun 3, 2009

Being as I support freedom of speech I say "No action" besides require them to pay taxes like every other business. At a $22 admission price why is this place tax exempt? I do feel that it is a waste of space, money and manpower. This place is a great educational injustice that is being inflicted upon thousands of children in this country, a large percentage of whom come from the Kentucky, Ohio and, Indiana areas. This is a slick Christian ministry that uses the hook of dinosaurs, the guarantee of an afterlife, and the horrors of hell to convince children and their families to believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible. Ken Hamm is becoming quite wealthy preying the gulible. As P.T. Barnum once said though "There is a sucker born every minute"

LifeToTheFullest! · Jun 3, 2009

OldStyleBlues said:
Being as I support freedom of speech I say "No action" besides require them to pay taxes like every other business. At a $22 admission price why is this place tax exempt? I do feel that it is a waste of space, money and manpower. This place is a great educational injustice that is being inflicted upon thousands of children in this country, a large percentage of whom come from the Kentucky, Ohio and, Indiana areas. This is a slick Christian ministry that uses the hook of dinosaurs, the guarantee of an afterlife, and the horrors of hell to convince children and their families to believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible. Ken Hamm is becoming quite wealthy preying the gulible. As P.T. Barnum once said though "There is a sucker born every minute"

Yeah, the Hovinds are doing the same over there in Florida with their 'Dinoland' fleece park.

AV1611VET · Jun 4, 2009

OldStyleBlues said:
This is a slick Christian ministry that uses the hook of dinosaurs, the guarantee of an afterlife, and the horrors of hell to convince children and their families to believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible.

Then put up a science museum to counter it.

You could have a section that starts with scientists who taugh a flat earth and geocentrism, then move to Aristotle, who stunted the growth of science for 2000 years; then move on up to alchemy, air having no mass, Phlogiston Theory, neat distorted mirrors that make a person look like they are Thalidomide babies, a trip through Chernobyl, and end with the grandaddy of them all --- a ride aboard the Challenger!

(Only hire blond, blue-eyed guides for added effect.)

Ectezus · Jun 4, 2009

AV1611VET said:
Then put up a science museum to counter it.

You could have a section that starts with scientists who taugh a flat earth and geocentrism, then move to Aristotle, who stunted the growth of science for 2000 years; then move on up to alchemy, air having no mass, Phlogiston Theory, neat distorted mirrors that make a person look like they are Thalidomide babies, a trip through Chernobyl, and end with the grandaddy of them all --- a ride aboard the Challenger!

(Only hire blond, blue-eyed guides for added effect.)

Science learns. Meanwhile the bible still says the earth is flat.

You lose.

MrGoodBytes · Jun 4, 2009

AV1611VET said:
Then put up a science museum to counter it.

You could have a section that starts with scientists who taugh a flat earth and geocentrism, then move to Aristotle, who stunted the growth of science for 2000 years; then move on up to alchemy, air having no mass, Phlogiston Theory, neat distorted mirrors that make a person look like they are Thalidomide babies, a trip through Chernobyl, and end with the grandaddy of them all --- a ride aboard the Challenger!

(Only hire blond, blue-eyed guides for added effect.)

So you basically want a museum to show superstitions and mysticism believers and nonbelievers alike supported hundreds of years ago until they were ultimately disproved by secular scientists, mixed with accidents mostly based on corporate greed or human error.

OldStyleBlues · Jun 4, 2009

They really shouldn't even be allowed to call that loony bin a "Museum"

AV1611VET · Jun 4, 2009

OldStyleBlues said:
They really shouldn't even be allowed to call that loony bin a "Museum"

Since you like Kentucky so much, OSB, wanna take a stab at this? 1

OldStyleBlues · Jun 4, 2009

Then again is it really a suprise that this place is in Kentucky?

Honkytnkmn · Jun 4, 2009

AV1611VET said:
Then put up a science museum to counter it.

You could have a section that starts with scientists who taugh a flat earth and geocentrism, then move to Aristotle, who stunted the growth of science for 2000 years; then move on up to alchemy, air having no mass, Phlogiston Theory, neat distorted mirrors that make a person look like they are Thalidomide babies, a trip through Chernobyl, and end with the grandaddy of them all --- a ride aboard the Challenger!

(Only hire blond, blue-eyed guides for added effect.)

I can't believe you forgot eugenics!

AV1611VET · Jun 4, 2009

Honkytnkmn said:
I can't believe you forgot eugenics!

Read it again ---

Honkytnkmn · Jun 4, 2009

AV1611VET said:
Read it again ---

Damn!

Can't believe I missed that!

Hespera · Jun 4, 2009

Honkytnkmn said:
Damn! Can't believe I missed that!

Is there some sort of point to be made with that list?

AV1611VET · Jun 4, 2009

Hespera said:
Is there some sort of point to be made with that list?

--- Ya, Honkytnkmn, what's the deal here?

Honkytnkmn · Jun 4, 2009

Well, I'm not against science myself. It was one of my favorite subjects in school. I think the point is, Science is always learning and trying to figure things out (as it should) but its not written in stone and the some of the most closely held and celebrated scientific (facts) have been proven wrong.

The problem I think science has today is it looks for all evidence inside the box. Science says we'll follow the facts and evidence and go where it points us as long as it doesn't point us outside the box to a creator.

Thats why you have people like Dawkins saying stuff like "details of our chemistry molecular biology you might find a signature of some sort of designer."

Then continuing on to say "Well... it could come about in the following way: it could be that uh, at some earlier time somewhere in the universe a civilization e-evolved... by probably by some kind of Darwinian means to a very very high level of technology and designed a form of life that they seeded onto... perhaps this... this planet. Um, now that is a possibility. And uh, an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the um, at the detail... details of our chemistry molecular biology you might find a signature of some sort of designer."

Basically science will go anywhere unless the evidence points to God, They won't go there.

AV1611VET · Jun 4, 2009

Honkytnkmn said:
Basically science will go anywhere unless the evidence points to God, They won't go there.

Yup --- that's a real sore spot with me --- telling me this and that didn't happen, God doesn't exist, etc. and so on.

I would have much more respect for them if they said, "In my opinion...," or, "So far, we haven't...".

MrGoodBytes · Jun 4, 2009

Honkytnkmn said:
Well, I'm not against science myself. It was one of my favorite subjects in school. I think the point is, Science is always learning and trying to figure things out (as it should) but its not written in stone and the some of the most closely held and celebrated scientific (facts) have been proven wrong.

The problem I think science has today is it looks for all evidence inside the box. Science says we'll follow the facts and evidence and go where it points us as long as it doesn't point us outside the box to a creator.

Thats why you have people like Dawkins saying stuff like "details of our chemistry molecular biology you might find a signature of some sort of designer."

Then continuing on to say "Well... it could come about in the following way: it could be that uh, at some earlier time somewhere in the universe a civilization e-evolved... by probably by some kind of Darwinian means to a very very high level of technology and designed a form of life that they seeded onto... perhaps this... this planet. Um, now that is a possibility. And uh, an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the um, at the detail... details of our chemistry molecular biology you might find a signature of some sort of designer."

Basically science will go anywhere unless the evidence points to God, They won't go there.

They would go there. They don't go there because no such evidence exists.

OldStyleBlues · Jun 4, 2009

Honkytnkmn said:
Basically science will go anywhere unless the evidence points to God, They won't go there.

The reason that is is that "God" is in the realm of the supernatural which is no concern of science. The natural world is the business of science. "God" belongs in theology studies and when you mix science and theology, you do both a great disservice. So if we're going to teach Creationism as an alternative to evolution then we should teach "stork theory" as an alternative to biological reproduction.

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