Where does the Bible say it is always God's will to heal?

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And how does 1 John 5.14-15 (below) fit into your equation. I have asked this several times and have yet to get an answer. Would you please not evade the question and let us know what you think.
14</SPAN> Now this is the confidence that we have in Him, that if we ask anything according to His will, He hears us. 15 And if we know that He hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of Him.
What do you mean "my equation"?

Absolutely - I John 5:14,15 says if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us, whatever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we have asked of him.

If we use the circumstances of man to determine the will of God, then, yes, by this logic, we might well say "he wasn't healed; it wasn't God's will".

We could also use that logic to say "Adam ate the forbidden fruit, and by his choice sin entered into the world, therefore because Adam chose this, it must have been God's will for Adam to disobey God." You cannot look at an earthly circumstance, and state cut-and-dried "this must have been the will of God". The fact is, a lot of things happen between God's desire and man's circumstances.

I'm sure Jesus never willed Peter to deny Him, but Peter denied Jesus just the same. The fact is, we have to use God's WORD, not man's situations, to ascertain God's will.

What does it mean, "according to God's will"?

What is "the will of God" ?

This is a big question, and one easily answered.

A will is a written document someone has left after they have died which shows both the rights and responsibilities of those who are the heirs to the estate. The Bible states that WE are heirs of God, and joint-heirs of Christ. The Bible says that God left a testament [covenant] and that Christ is the testator [the executor of the will].

We have to read the will, understand the will, and live by the will, if we are to know what the will of the Lord is.

The heirs cannot say, "I didn't get my money; it must not have been according to the will for me to receive it."
The heirs cannot say, "I didn't receive my property; it must not have been provided for me by my father."
The heirs cannot say, "I couldn't find the key to the house; I guess father didn't want me to have it, after all."

The final authority is what is written in print.

You have to know what is written before you say "this is the will"; the circumstances are irrelevant to knowing what the will is.

The will states that healing is left to us as our inheritance.
The will states that prosperity is left to us as our inheritance.
The will states that salvation is left to us as our inheritance.

God is a good Father. He will NOT provide healing for one of his children, and deny it to another.

If you believe that God does something for one that he is unwilling to do for another, then you completely undermine everything the Bible states about how God makes available

the same healing
the same salvation
the same prosperity
the same peace
the same righteousness
the same heaven
the same gifts

to all believers.

The Bible says "whosoever". I believe that word with all my heart.

I don't examine people's circumstances to find out what the will of God is. I look at the will itself - the Bible.

And if anything happens that contradicts that Bible -

Well, then, it must not have been ...

"The will of God".
 
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I was going to stay away from the computer because I have things to do around the house, but as I was washing the dishes, the Lord sent me back over here, and this is what he told me to add:

If a track athlete does not win a race, the coach does not come over to them and tell them how many races they CAN'T win. The coach reminds them that they will win this next race - a good coach, anyway.

If a Christian has not received a promise from God, you encourage them to still believe the promise, run for the finish line, shoot for the basketball goal, whatever the situation calls for.

The point is that you DO NOT speak in terms of defeat or loss when reminding people of the goal. You have to think in terms of winning, healing, receiving, making it, having provision, knowing God will come through.

How long would a coach keep his job who constantly reminded the team that they might not win this game tonight, every time they had a pre-game warmup? The point of dealing with people when they face challenges is to remind them of how they will win! Corinthians says "thanks be to God, who always causeth us to triumph in Christ Jesus."

What many of us have to do is what Paul did ...

Brethren, I count not myself to have apprehended: but this one thing I do, forgetting those things which are behind, and reaching forth unto those things which are before, I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

You have to press - BELIEVING THAT YOU ARE GOING TO MAKE IT.

Quit finding reasons to reach BACK, Jim. You have to reach FORTH.
 
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And behold, a leper came and worshipped Him, saying, "Lord, if You are willing, You can make me clean."

Matthew 8:3 Then Jesus put out His hand and touched him, saying, "I am willing; be cleansed." Immediately his leprosy was cleansed.

Sure, I agree, it was Jesus’ will to heal that particular leper on that particular day, but that is not the question the OP asked.

~Gene Poole
Christianity without signs and wonders is just another religion.
 
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Sure, I agree, it was Jesus’ will to heal that particular leper on that particular day, but that is not the question the OP asked.

The Scripture doesn't add the statement on the bottom that you just added.

Whatever happened to that old motto -

Where the scripture speaks, we speak. Where the scripture is silent, we are silent.
 
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Genesis 15:26 says "If you dilligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you."

This is one of the blessings enjoyed when one is in obedient, covenant relationship with God.
 
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Sure, I agree, it was Jesus&#8217; will to heal that particular leper on that particular day, but that is not the question the OP asked.

~Gene Poole

Christianity without signs and wonders is just another religion.
Isaiah 40:7-8 The grass withers, the flower fades, Because the breath of the LORD blows upon it; Surely the people are grass. The grass withers, the flower fades, But the word of our God stands forever."

The unfailing Word of God and the ulfaltering resource of the Spirit of God.

Matthew 5:17

Matthew 8:16-17

Jesus came to fulfill the OT.

Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever.

Matthew 8:3

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Jesus is forever willing to put out His hand.

The Scripture doesn't add the statement on the bottom that you just added.

Whatever happened to that old motto -

Where the scripture speaks, we speak. Where the scripture is silent, we are silent.

2 Kings 6:15-17

2 Kings 6:21-23

2 Kings 6:24-33

2 Kings 7:1

2 Kings 7:3

Elijah was able to transmit the move of God by decree.

Judges 13:25 The Spirit of the LORD began to move upon him at Maheneh Dan between Zorah and Eshtaol.

Hebrews 13:7

Jeremiah 33:3

2 Kings 6:17

Where the Scripture speaks, we speak the word of God. Where the scripture is silent, we call on Him, and He will answer us in ways that will astound us.
 
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Genesis 15:26 says "If you dilligently heed the voice of the LORD your God and do what is right in His sight, give ear to His commandments and keep all His statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you which I have brought on the Egyptians. For I am the LORD who heals you."

This is one of the blessings enjoyed when one is in obedient, covenant relationship with God.

OH yeah, and also, "I will take sickness and disease from the midst of thee." And I bet the way some people read that one is, "yeah, God will take sickness from the MIDST of you, but he might put it on the FRONT or the BACK of you." ^_^
 
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OH yeah, and also, "I will take sickness and disease from the midst of thee." And I bet the way some people read that one is, "yeah, God will take sickness from the MIDST of you, but he might put it on the FRONT or the BACK of you." ^_^
^_^
 
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Jimbeaux the preacher has led you astray with his teachings and caused you to stumble and fall. <---- ohhh I like that one. ^_^:p

That has been my estimation for some time.
I would like to think that he does it in ignorance... but I think not.

If my children (or anyone else) got sick... I would ward them away from this forum specifically for this reason.
 
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And behold, a leper came and worshipped Him, saying, "Lord, if You are willing, You can make me clean."

Matthew 8:3 Then Jesus put out His hand and touched him, saying, "I am willing; be cleansed." Immediately his leprosy was cleansed.
Wisdom from a young person. How refreshing and encouraging. Bless you young saint. The Lord is well pleased with your faith! I can just feel Him smiling!
 
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Wisdom from a young person. How refreshing and encouraging. Bless you young saint. The Lord is well pleased with your faith! I can just feel Him smiling!
Thank you! I am quite pleased to provide refreshing and encouraging Scriptures. :D Perhaps, but the Lord will be even more pleased with you and your faith in God! ;)

Luke 18:13 'God, be merciful to me a sinner!'

John 17:15 "I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one.

I believe we should also be familiar with other prayers in the Scriptures. :thumbsup:

God bless. :)
 
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Acts 10:
38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Hebrews 13:
8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

James 1:
16 Do not err, my beloved brethren.
17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights,
with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.

Psalms 34:
19 Many are the afflictions of the righteous: but the LORD delivereth him out of them all.

Psalms 34:
17 The righteous cry, and the LORD heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.

John 14:
12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.

John 15:
7 If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.
8 Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

John 16
23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you.
24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

Mark 16
17And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

James 5:
14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
15 And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.

Mark 11:
24 Therefore I say unto you, What things soever ye desire, when ye pray, believe that ye receive them, and ye shall have them.

Matthew 7:
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you:
8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

AMEN!

Hi Dids,

Thank you for the scriptures. I appreciate it.:thumbsup:

Two questions sir, how do you factor in the situations when a believer prays for healing and none happens? And how can the verse that you provided (Acts 10:38) where Jesus was doing God's will by healing those who were demon-possessed, be used to justify the idea that all believers are all supposed to be able to pray for healing and it should happen? As far as I can tell, that was the will of God for Jesus, but I cannot say with certainity that it was God's will for all our prayers for healing to result in actual healing.

The biggest problem I have accepting your position, is that there are times when we pray for a healing, and none manifests.

Thank you for your answers, it is helping me learn more about this issue.:thumbsup:
 
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Hi Dids,

Thank you for the scriptures. I appreciate it.:thumbsup:

Two questions sir, how do you factor in the situations when a believer prays for healing and none happens? And how can the verse that you provided (Acts 10:38) where Jesus was doing God's will by healing those who were demon-possessed, be used to justify the idea that all believers are all supposed to be able to pray for healing and it should happen? As far as I can tell, that was the will of God for Jesus, but I cannot say with certainity that it was God's will for all our prayers for healing to result in actual healing.

The biggest problem I have accepting your position, is that there are times when we pray for a healing, and none manifests.

Thank you for your answers, it is helping me learn more about this issue.:thumbsup:

My answer to that question is the same as if someone wonders why we prayed for someone who doesn't get saved.

You can't determine the will of God by the circumstances of man.

You determine the will of God by the word of God.
 
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My answer to that question is the same as if someone wonders why we prayed for someone who doesn't get saved.

You can't determine the will of God by the circumstances of man.

You determine the will of God by the word of God.
Learning from great faiths in the Bible, circumstances did not control them; but rather how their reaction to circumstances that determined what kind of people they were and most importantly, how faithful they were.

There is confusion between the determined Will of God and a Christian's responsibility as a Christian. The true gospel is not about making people feel better about themselves, but about making people realize that they are eternally lost and only the true gospel gives them eternal hope. The Bible does not teach that He will always physically, emotionally and mentally heal those who come to Him in faith.
 
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In answer to the OP, and apologies if the Scripture has already been mentioned:

But the answer to the question "where in the Bible does it say God's will is always to heal" is:

Let your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

Blessings,
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My answer to that question is the same as if someone wonders why we prayed for someone who doesn't get saved.

You can't determine the will of God by the circumstances of man.

You determine the will of God by the word of God.

Why do we have to &#8220;determine the will of God&#8221; for anyone but ourselves, QC? There seems to be this silly idea afloat that says we are supposed to &#8220;know&#8221; everything about God and His doings in the world as if that were actually a possibility (which, of course, it&#8217;s not Romans 11.33-34).
If I pray for someone&#8217;s healing and they are not healed, all I have to do is simply trust God that knows what is best. Trust is my default, not comprehension. You to feel duty bound you have to &#8220;explain&#8221; God&#8217;s actions or God&#8217;s will or to defend why your theoryology is not working out so well in real life.
At the risk of become tiresome in repeating the same scripture over and over, when I pray any prayer that is 1). &#8220;according to God&#8217;s&#8221; will I can be assured of two things, if I want to include 1 John 5.14-15 among my proof texts: 2). God will hear me, and 3). I will have the petitions I have desired of Him.
But, working backward, if I 3). do not have the petitions I have desired of Him, then I can be assured that 2). My prayer was not heard because 1) it was not &#8220;according to His will.&#8221;
Then what do I do? I trust God. But it appears you retreat to your study and start digging through the Bible (with the help of some faith booklets) to find the some sort of unsatisfying explanation for why God doesn&#8217;t do what He is told.
Thanks but no thanks. I am more content to simply trust God.
~Gene Poole

BTW, is anyone ever going to be able to explain why 1 John 5.14-15 is not in &#8220;faith&#8221; Bibles.


Christianity without signs and wonders is just another religion.
 
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The Scripture doesn't add the statement on the bottom that you just added.

Whatever happened to that old motto -

Where the scripture speaks, we speak. Where the scripture is silent, we are silent.
^_^

That's an old Church of Christ motto printed on a church sign of the Church of Christ I attended for a few weeks on my journey to God &#8212;it said, proudly, &#8220;where the Bible speaks we speak and where the Bible is silent we are silent.&#8221; Only, it was just a self-serving motto that made those people feel good about themselves. And the amazing thing is, they believed it. they really did think it identified them &#8230; only, for them, it really wasn&#8217;t true because they were not rightly dividing the Word of Truth. They were, in fact, being silent where the Bible spoke, especially about the work of the Holy Spirit and they were speaking where the Bible was silent.

So, it was just words on a sign. It sounded true but it wasn&#8217;t.

Ergo, extrapolating a word spoken by Christ to a particular leper on a particular day as being a great universal principle for all men and the cornerstone (and possibly the only hint that it is God&#8217;s will to always heal all people at all times). If you ask me, that&#8217;s pretty flimsy footing for a creed (unless it&#8217;s all you&#8217;ve got).

~Gene Poole


Christianity without signs and wonders is just another religion.
 
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