Does the Christian god consider suicide a sin? What about euthanasia? Is euthanasia considered a sin? If not, why oppose peoples free will to die with dignity?
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That is a really good question.
Now God is smart.. and he looks at things very closely. I think that when someone asks for a Euthanasia suicide, God will know that they chose to die, and that their intention was suicide.. I guess it can't be considered suicide but at the same time it is.
Though I can't speak for God, I truely believe that He would be upset if someone went through this, and he would take it as a suicide.
Now God is smart.. and he looks at things very closely. I think that when someone asks for a Euthanasia suicide, God will know that they chose to die, and that their intention was suicide.. I guess it can't be considered suicide but at the same time it is.
Though I can't speak for God, I truely believe that He would be upset if someone went through this, and he would take it as a suicide.
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suicide is betrayal of yourself. God created you to live and you're wanting to die. you are going against His will. So yes I think it is a sin.
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Suicide is murder of self. Christians believe that murder is wrong. We believe that our time of death should be placed in the hand of God.
Euthanasia in murder clear and simple.
People can decide to suicide or to take part in euthanasia that is their decision. It is our calling to warn people that what they are doing is against the will of God.
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Murder means you personally and deliberatly go about killing a human being. This human being can be yourself or any other, regardless of any circumstance whatsoever.
The right to life exists. There is no such thing as a right to die. Any undertaking of someone deliberately undertaking the killing of another human being in their own hands will have the weight of God's wrath on him. It is well deserved too.
I believe it was John Locke, and English philospher on government and politics, that said that said that man was "endowed by his Creator the right to life, liberty, and property [retainment of his /property]".
The right to life exists. There is no such thing as a right to die. Any undertaking of someone deliberately undertaking the killing of another human being in their own hands will have the weight of God's wrath on him. It is well deserved too.
I believe it was John Locke, and English philospher on government and politics, that said that said that man was "endowed by his Creator the right to life, liberty, and property [retainment of his /property]".
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Not only is suicide and euthanasia considered murder, but it can also be considered stealing -- stealing a life that God made.
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Today, euthanasia can mean taking someone off of life support. That's a very recent medical concept, keeping someone alive so artificially.
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I believe suicide is not a voluntary decision and therefore it can not be a sin.
Most people who commit suicide go through a long and excruciating process, during which they do anything they can to ease the pain. Including, reaching out to god(s) in anyway they know and can. Only after all their attempts fail and the only response they get from gods is a heart breaking silence that they take their own life in desperation.
Almost no one chooses to commit suicide; people who take their own lives are pushed off the edge by overwhelming circumstances.
The fact that tens of thousands of people in the U.S. alone commit suicide each year makes it very difficult for me to believe in a loving god. Because if suicide is a sin as some of you suggest, then it seems that god is driving people to commit a sin by giving them more than they can handle. Or just stands by and allows the evil in this world to drive people into committing the sin of suicide.
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I agree. Some have chemical imbalances that can only be changed through medications. Some take medications that cause suicidal thoughts. (Printed on the labels)
People feel trapped for so many reasons... abuse, limited opportunities, rejection, support system withdrawn, no way to provide for their families, lack of vision/hope for their futures...
But euthanasia usually refers to someone else making the decision, or someone accepting the patient's signature to make that decision, and I think that's where it gets scary. There's a lot of corruption in this world... a lot of people who would force a weak person to sign something.
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Moses hit a point of despair, with suicidal thoughts...
Samson committed suicide...with no commentary after the story about his decision.
Nu 11:15
So if You are going to deal thus with me, please kill me at once, if I have found favor in Your sight, and do not let me see my wretchedness.
And God responded with an offer to assign others to share his burden.So if You are going to deal thus with me, please kill me at once, if I have found favor in Your sight, and do not let me see my wretchedness.
Samson committed suicide...with no commentary after the story about his decision.
Jud 16:30
And Samson said, "Let me die with the Philistines!" And he bent with all his might so that the house fell on the lords and all the people who were in it. So the dead whom he killed at his death were more than those whom he killed in his life.
Israel decided he was ready to die...
Ge 46:30
Then Israel said to Joseph, "Now let me die, since I have seen your face, that you are still alive."
Job 3:21
Why is light given to him who suffers, and life to the bitter of soul, who long for death, but there is none, And dig for it more than for hidden treasures
http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=zec+11:9&translation=nas&st=1&new=1&sr=1&l=en
Joh 11:16
Therefore Thomas, who is called Didymus, said to his fellow disciples, "Let us also go, so that we may die with Him." (voluntary martyrdom)
Ge 50:5
Ec 7:1
A good name is better than a good ointment; the day of one's death is better than the day of one's birth.
And Samson said, "Let me die with the Philistines!" And he bent with all his might so that the house fell on the lords and all the people who were in it. So the dead whom he killed at his death were more than those whom he killed in his life.
Israel decided he was ready to die...
Ge 46:30
Then Israel said to Joseph, "Now let me die, since I have seen your face, that you are still alive."
Job 3:21
Why is light given to him who suffers, and life to the bitter of soul, who long for death, but there is none, And dig for it more than for hidden treasures
http://www.studylight.org/desk/?query=zec+11:9&translation=nas&st=1&new=1&sr=1&l=en
Joh 11:16
Therefore Thomas, who is called Didymus, said to his fellow disciples, "Let us also go, so that we may die with Him." (voluntary martyrdom)
Ge 50:5
Ec 7:1
A good name is better than a good ointment; the day of one's death is better than the day of one's birth.
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Well, Jesus walked into his own death.
So there is that.
But would that be considered Suicide?
Mayters chose to die over betraying God, so I guess, the Right to Chose your own death, or place your life in your own hands, is a freedom that should not be denied.
Missinoaries chose to go into life threating situations to spread the word of God, and some of them did indeed die, but they died knowing full well this was a very possible outcome of their choice.
So where do we draw the line at "Suicide"?
Would it be suicide to go out and kill people, and then confess to the law enforcment that I did it, knowing that the punnishment is death.
Is it suicide to serve in the Army, and then getting killed in combat. After all, you knew this was a strong Outcome.
Would it be murder to draft someone into the army and then they die in combat?
There are all types of questions that arise when we think about this.
Truly, isn't choosing the time our own death, the greatest freedom we could have, to choose how, when and were, that should never be sought to be taken from us.
We all know that Death is an inevitibility, so is not birth a form of suicide or even murder, knowing that this child born will one day die, to make a life, only to know that this life will die.
I know many of you will look at this and say "That's just silly" but where is the line drawn, and why is it drawn there, what makes one thing right, and another wrong, were does it become acceptable, and unacceptable?
I do not support Life Support, nor do I have any problems with Doctor Assited Suicide. I believe the "Right to Life" becomes wortles when we are "Forced to Life" it is no longer a "Right" when it is forced upon us.
Just as a "Right to Arms" would be wrong if we were "Forced to Arms" it is no longer a Right or a Freedom, when it is forced upon us.
Just something to think about.
God Bless
Key
So there is that.
But would that be considered Suicide?
Mayters chose to die over betraying God, so I guess, the Right to Chose your own death, or place your life in your own hands, is a freedom that should not be denied.
Missinoaries chose to go into life threating situations to spread the word of God, and some of them did indeed die, but they died knowing full well this was a very possible outcome of their choice.
So where do we draw the line at "Suicide"?
Would it be suicide to go out and kill people, and then confess to the law enforcment that I did it, knowing that the punnishment is death.
Is it suicide to serve in the Army, and then getting killed in combat. After all, you knew this was a strong Outcome.
Would it be murder to draft someone into the army and then they die in combat?
There are all types of questions that arise when we think about this.
Truly, isn't choosing the time our own death, the greatest freedom we could have, to choose how, when and were, that should never be sought to be taken from us.
We all know that Death is an inevitibility, so is not birth a form of suicide or even murder, knowing that this child born will one day die, to make a life, only to know that this life will die.
I know many of you will look at this and say "That's just silly" but where is the line drawn, and why is it drawn there, what makes one thing right, and another wrong, were does it become acceptable, and unacceptable?
I do not support Life Support, nor do I have any problems with Doctor Assited Suicide. I believe the "Right to Life" becomes wortles when we are "Forced to Life" it is no longer a "Right" when it is forced upon us.
Just as a "Right to Arms" would be wrong if we were "Forced to Arms" it is no longer a Right or a Freedom, when it is forced upon us.
Just something to think about.
God Bless
Key
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Deliberate suicide and euthinasia is wrong I believe.
But there is a grey area, I believe that is. Such as for Cancer patients and people with terrible painful diseases. If a person is suffering greatly and is already dying it is a very hard position to be in, because if it wasnt for the circumstances the person would want to live. So i believe a person wanting to end their pain due to terminal disease isnt't totally suicide. The same way during war, when a wounded soldier is on the floor dying in extreme pain. ESPESIALLY for the soldier that is FORCED to fight in the war(many countrys do this, even the US back when the draft was in effect)..taking yourself out because of that wouldnt be suicide in my eyes, because of the circumstances. There are many war suicides in the Old Testament that are portrayed as noble. Of course then you go into the arguement between suicide and martyordom.
However if the person is perfect health wise. And wants to die willfully for selfish reasons then that is definatly suicide.
But there is a grey area, I believe that is. Such as for Cancer patients and people with terrible painful diseases. If a person is suffering greatly and is already dying it is a very hard position to be in, because if it wasnt for the circumstances the person would want to live. So i believe a person wanting to end their pain due to terminal disease isnt't totally suicide. The same way during war, when a wounded soldier is on the floor dying in extreme pain. ESPESIALLY for the soldier that is FORCED to fight in the war(many countrys do this, even the US back when the draft was in effect)..taking yourself out because of that wouldnt be suicide in my eyes, because of the circumstances. There are many war suicides in the Old Testament that are portrayed as noble. Of course then you go into the arguement between suicide and martyordom.
However if the person is perfect health wise. And wants to die willfully for selfish reasons then that is definatly suicide.
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when sum1 takes there life i belive he looks at the persons whole life not just how they ended it. hes vary cleaver and he knows tht for sum1 to hate life so much they chooz to end there own, ther definatly not in a normal state ov mind and i belive he considers this during his judgement
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I believe that when a person's time to die comes then it comes, no matter how it happens. Many will say suicide is bringing that time prematurely, in effect murder. But consider this, if it isnt a person's time to die then it is possible that the attempt will fail. When God calls us home, we go, no matter the way it is done. God will judge us all, and it is for God and Jesus alone to say "you are forgiven your sins against me" (meaning sins against God)
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I do think that a lot of Christians believe suicide is a sin, but I am not convinced that the Christian God has such a clear-cut definition of it. The ten commandments are a small portion of the entire Bible. In Leviticus 20:15, 16, we are told to give the death penalty to those who practice inappropriate behavior with animals.
Exodus 20:13 You shall not murder. (avenge, assassinate)
But... as for Christian culture... I don't know anyone who feels comfortable with killing at all, and very few agree with even the death penalty.
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Greetings
When a person chooses to take there own life sometimes they think there escaping the problems there facing, but to die without forgiveness of your sins thru Jesus is to wake up in the Falmes burning in Hell.
There is a record of a guy in the Bible who committed suicide, yes there is one in there, his name was Samson, read it for your self, he prayed about it and God granted him his prayer and many died because of it, was it wrong I don't think God thought it was, he answered his prayer.
Here is the Story from the Bible.Judges 16:25-30;
JUDG 16:25
And it came to pass, when their hearts were merry, that they said, Call for Samson that he may make us sport. And they called for Samson out of the prison-house; and he made them sport: and they set him between the pillars.
JUDG 16:26 And Samson said to the lad that held him by the hand, Suffer me that I may feel the pillars upon which the house standeth, that I may lean upon them.
JUDG 16:27 Now the house was full of men and women: and all the lords of the Philistines were there: and there were upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport.
JUDG 16:28 And Samson called to the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.
JUDG 16:29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was supported, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.
JUDG 16:30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were in it. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.
3000 who were on the roof dies, and there were many many more there, notice he killed more there then he did in his whole life, all because he killed himself. Remember God said he Changes not, so right or wrong it all comes down to do you know your sins are forgiven.
How sad to think your escaping only to wake up burning in Hell.
Do you know your sins have been forgiven? how about that one your speaking of, have you told them about being forgiven. This is what we really need to do when Someone is thinking about doing a thing like that.
If it was a sin that can't be forgiven then we have to say Samson is in Hell and that would make the answer to his prayer evil and make God evil, this is not the case I'm sure.
Having ones sins forgiven should be on everyones mind because death is on all our backs waiting our turn.
Peace to all in Jesus Christ
Come to him everyone who needs forgiveness and he will take them away, just ask.
Rev Malone
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I totally agree with what you said there.
And I would add a few things.
Is it suicide when someone does activities which they know will shorter their life, such as eating a very unhealthy diet and failing to exercise?
Or what about smokers? Could what they are doing be condidered suicide, since what they are doing, in essance, is shortening the amount of years they have to live? In this day and age, it's impossible to say "Well they know it won't hurt them." They know, at the very least, that it increases their chances of things like cancer. They know that it could kill them, and yet they do it anyway.
Now let's take into consideration cases where a child is abused, molested, or raped. These events, when they occur in a family, obviously create problems for the victim. One of these problems might be severe depression. Now, if that child goes on to commit suicide because of these events, over which he or she had no control, why would it be a sin? Would that person be condemned to an eternity of suffering, simply because he or she could not cope with the feelings that resulted from the event? I liked what another person had stated before me, about how people try to cope, they want to live. Ultimately, though, they may be unable to cope. They may have gone through years and years of psychological counseling. They may have gone through years and years of trying different medications, all to no avail. This, now, is a person who had tried everything to get better; to be happy. Yet, they still are not. And all because, again, of an event occuring in their life over which they had no control. How is a person morally culpable for ending his or her life in light of this scenario?
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Good point, personally I would think that is the correct answer; I highly doubt one would be morally culpable for ending his or her own life in this instance.
Still there are those who might say that God knew that was all going to happen, and he was simply testing the abused child (for what reason, I can't say). Of course, that would put the idea of free-will pretty much out the window, because if God knew that was all going to happen, then God would have also known the results that would occur from the child being in an abusive situation like that (i.e. the child ending his or her own life). But if that's true, then perhaps that's how God wanted it to be in the first place!
It's all so confusing...
Take care,
J
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