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I know that everyone has heard about the whole Scientology deal where a mother cannot make a sound while she is giving birth and cannot talk to her baby for a week after birth--- (btw I don't know where this topic is best suited, so mods if neccessary move the thread to a more appropriate place)

I have never read any real evidence saying that doing the above things was better for the baby's development. The only real things that I have read, and is an ongoing study, is about how a quiet and relaxed environment is better for premature babies, because then there isn't any overstimulation that could lead up to future behaviors that are predictable for premies.

I'm thinking that this silent birth stuff is kinda kooky-- what are the rest of your thoughts?
 

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I'm with kooky...lol
I can't imagine how you'd have a silent birth unless you're on some kind of painkillers.
And your baby can hear your voice while in the womb, so I'm not sure why anyone wouldn't want to talk around their baby.
I'm not saying that your house should be "Grand Central Station", but there's no reason the baby can't be around family and friends in a normal environment.
 
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rediculous, I can just imagine the poor frigtened baby in a new world denied the one comforting sound we can give it (moms voice, heard in utero, should be heard out)

Now noise in birth....,well it isn't likely to be good in joining your kid in crying...but it hurts!
 
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Actually, the way I understand it is that the idea of "silent birth" does not actually apply to the mother (in scientology, I'm not sure about other religions). How it was explained to me was that the people around the laboring mother are to be silent, or to speak in soft, soothing tones. Mama is allowed to cry out if she wishes to. This may be incorrect, but that's how it was explained to me after I made a similar complaint! I wasn't a screamer during labor, but there was NO way that I would be silent! lol
 
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I read that the mother is allowed to make noises, but neither she nor anyone present at the birth can actually say anything. For two weeks after the birth, no one can talk to the baby.

It makes no sense and I would think it would be more disturbing to the baby to have everyone give him or her the silent treatment. The kid could hear his mother's voice (and other voices and sounds) in the womb, so it seems like it would be weird to be born and then hear no voices for so long. I wouldn't be surprised if it were somehow actually detrimental; we know that physical contact is extremely important for babies, so I would think being spoken to might be a similar thing.
 
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I wonder why they have that rule in place (no talking to baby for first week), as it has been pointed out, the baby can hear the mothers voice in the womb, and after birth babies are soothed by their mothers voice because it's familiar to them.

My husband tells me that apparently it's to stop the baby bonding with the mother??? Which is a bit silly really because kids who have to spend the first few weeks away from their mothers because they're very ill (babies that is) still bond, and adopted kids bond with their parents. . . . . .. . .. .
 
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Yes I think the whole concept is goofy myself. I didn't realize that it goes through the first week or two. That is very weird. I loved talking gently to my babies when they were first put in arms and sitting and holding and cooing with them. I can not imagine missing that experience. Then when you are talking and they track your voice and all of that. You are just delaying that reponce it seems to me. Well the two people I know that got a little caught into the Scientology thing had some wacky ideas at first. Glad they came to their senses.
 
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Heehee.... well since its a man who wrote the Silent Birth idea after being involved in a birth (I think of his own child) ..... I think that the Silent Birth has more to do with him not liking the stress that the birth room causes than it does with what is best for mom and child. But they can repaint it however they want, you know... ;)

Scientology's creator, sci-fi writer L. Ron Hubbard, once said: “Maintain silence in the presence of birth to save both the sanity of the mother and child.”
 
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There have been studies done that prove that babies who have are born in a quieter, less bright environment, spoken to quietly and lovingly, and then who are given a warm bath right away, are more relaxed & happier newborns. I think that just makes sense.

This "silent birth" stuff sounds Ridiculous to me. Not talking to your baby is... geesh, so insane in so many ways! A mother's instinct draws her to protect and hold her baby while talking & crooning to her baby... and that calms the baby down.

OY. Crazy people. :doh:
 
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What I don't understand is why the mother can't speak to her child-- just because a mother is separated from her child by touch such as in an incubator doesn't mean that there won't be bonding-- psychologically, bonding can still happen because the child has recognize the mother's voice. It has been noted that a baby can recognize and physicaly turn in the direction of their mother's voice when the baby is only several minutes old! So what I don't understand is, why do you deny that?

Scientologists and other proponents of silent birth also maintain that with a mom making noise during the birth, or a husband talking to his wife to coach her during birth will later on be psychologically detrimental to the baby's welfare later in life-- sounds like crock to me! Noone can remember their birth--- you don't even have a good sense of memory at that time. I can understand someone being traumatized by abuse or something at just several months of age (that kind of experience would continue to expound on itself as the child continues through toddlerhood and so forth) but when you just went *pop* outta the womb! nonsense.

I don't see this Ron Hubbard person carrying the anatomy of a woman, or a psychology degree.

I think what is supposed to be more important is that afterwards, the baby is placed in a soothing environment-- birth is very unlikely going to be soothing, getting your body squashed through the birth canal, after having to leave the environment of being surrounded by amnionic fluid!
 
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Browneyes84 said:
Noone can remember their birth--- you don't even have a good sense of memory at that time. I can understand someone being traumatized by abuse or something at just several months of age (that kind of experience would continue to expound on itself as the child continues through toddlerhood and so forth) but when you just went *pop* outta the womb! nonsense.
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Ok it was my mom and dad that started looking into it. They(scientolgist) do this counceling thing, kinda like hypnosis, and they will take you back to the womb eventually, then to prior lives and stuff. You go through stages and work your way back. I don't know the whole thing, my parents were a little vague on that part, because they aren't suppose to talk to people about it. I am just glad they figured out it was more than a little kooky.
 
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Digressing a bit. I remember my son's birth. I had had 24 hours of very painful back labor. At the end of it, they very nearly lost both my son and myself. His heartrate dropped completely down and my blood pressure suddenly shot through the roof. They did the emergency c-section. My husband said it looked like 'Alien' because the moment my son's head popped out of my abdomen, he was screaming and he wasn't even out yet. He screamed for five minutes straight. They had to check both him and his heart because they thought he had Down Syndrome. Anyhow, five or ten minutes later they brought this screaming baby to me. He was upset and was still letting the world know it. The moment I opened my mouth and spoke to him, he instantly quieted, opened his eyes and actually turned toward me even though I couldn't hold him. Everybody was in awe. My voice didn't even sound like me to me. I'd been through a horrible experience and had pretty much lost my voice but he knew it and it comforted him. I still get teary eyed when I remember how precious that moment was.

How could anybody take that away from an innocent baby? A baby knows his mother's voice. That voice is a comfort and a baby should not be deprived unless there is some circumstance making hearing her voice impossible.
 
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Most of my dialating was painless for me so my room was very quiet. HOWEVER...I then had an emergency C-section etc. My little guy was completely quiet and didn't cry. He was such a calm, quiet baby.
With my second - it was a planned C-section and he came out crying and still cries to this day.
I don't think it matters too much how quiet the room is...I think if God's will for you is to cry - you'll cry. If he wants you quiet - you'll be quiet. I don't think it matters much...What's next...wall color in a birthing room matters?
 
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I think that's ridiculous not to be able to talk to your newborn for 2 weeks. I personally, found it more "soothing" for the people in the delivery room with me to reassure me and tell me I'm doing great, then to not talk at all. I would think something was wrong if they didn't say anything. My daughter was and still is a very happy and healthy baby and we didn't go through a silent birth.
 
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