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visionary · Jul 11, 2005

queenm04 said:
WOW Visionary

Your story says to me that God is faithful.

Lets praise Elohim, that is a BIG Testimony!!!Thanks for sharing!!!

They were an answer to a little eleven year old who prayed. Both times, the night of conception, I received a tap on the shoulder and "Tonight" with a quick reminder of the prayer.

queenm04 · Jul 16, 2005

Could we ascribe that to Intimacy with Yahweh - Lyk having a relationship with Him - I would not want to underplay His Grace here!! Am just saying that at times when we are in a closer walk with Him He whispers things pointing 2 our divine direction.

ShirChadash · Jul 18, 2005

What an awesome thread!! :clap:

to all that Scripture!!

visionary · Jul 18, 2005

Yeshua is Lord of Lords.... then it also makes sense that every time you read Lord, it is talking about Yeshua....

Numbers 21:6 And the LORD sent fiery serpents among the people, and they bit the people; and much people of Israel died. 7 Therefore the people came to Moses, and said, We have sinned, for we have spoken against the LORD, and against thee; pray unto the LORD, that he take away the serpents from us. And Moses prayed for the people. 8 And the LORD said unto Moses, Make thee a fiery serpent, and set it upon a pole: and it shall come to pass, that every one that is bitten, when he looketh upon it, shall live. 9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

Can you picture Yeshua sending a message that is also the symbolic truth for the future?

Deuteronomy 4:30 When thou art in tribulation, and all these things are come upon thee, even in the latter days, if thou turn to the LORD thy God, and shalt be obedient unto his voice; 31 (For the LORD thy God is a merciful God he will not forsake thee, neither destroy thee, nor forget the covenant of thy fathers which he sware unto them. 32 For ask now of the days that are past, which were before thee, since the day that God created man upon the earth, and ask from the one side of heaven unto the other, whether there hath been any such thing as this great thing is, or hath been heard like it? 33 Did ever people hear the voice of God speaking out of the midst of the fire, as thou hast heard, and live? 34 Or hath God assayed to go and take him a nation from the midst of another nation, by temptations, by signs, and by wonders, and by war, and by a mighty hand, and by a stretched out arm, and by great terrors, according to all that the LORD your God did for you in Egypt before your eyes? 35 Unto thee it was shewed, that thou mightest know that the LORD he is God; there is none else beside him. 36 Out of heaven he made thee to hear his voice, that he might instruct thee: and upon earth he shewed thee his great fire; and thou heardest his words out of the midst of the fire.

visionary · Jul 19, 2005

I have to keep backing up because I keep finding evidence of Yeshua still in Genesis that have not thought of at first. Take Jacob and his night of wrestling. Who was he wrestling with... is it not the same one that we wrestle with?

Genesis (B'resheet) 32:22 He got up that night, took his two wives, his two slave-girls, and his eleven children, and forded the Yabok. 23 He took them and sent them across the stream, then sent his possessions across; 24 and Ya'akov was left alone. Then some man wrestled with him until daybreak. 25 When he saw that he did not defeat Ya'akov, he struck Ya'akov's hip socket, so that his hip was dislocated while wrestling with him. 26 The man said, "Let me go, because it's daybreak." But Ya'akov replied, "I won't let you go unless you bless me." 27 The man asked, "What is your name?" and he answered, "Ya'akov." 28 Then the man said, "From now on, you will no longer be called Ya'akov, but Isra'el; because you have shown your strength to both God and men and have prevailed." 29 Ya'akov asked him, "Please tell me your name." But he answered, "Why are you asking about my name?" and blessed him there. 30 Ya'akov called the place P'ni-El [face of God], "Because I have seen God face to face, yet my life is spared."

Who else could this have been but Yeshua? We know that we can not see the Father and live.

visionary · Jul 20, 2005

Do we really realise that God on Mount Sinai was Yeshua, Lord of Lords?

Deuteronomy 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Do we see the same God at Mount Sinai as the one walking the streets of Jerusalem with His disciples?

1 Timothy 6:15 Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords;

Revelation 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Revelation 19:16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.

visionary · Jul 24, 2005

Every time I turn around I find Yeshua actively involved in the Old testament, and what is worse is that after I leave Genesis, I still find more evidence of Him.

Melchisedec

Yeshua has always been our High Priest even from the beginning.

Genesis 14:18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he [was] the priest of the most high God. 19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed [be] Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth: 20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.

Does it not say somewhere that it was "even from the foundation of the world"?

Psalms 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

What he did at the cross is just another step towards completing the work promised in the temple services.

Hebrew 5:6 As he saith also in another [place], Thou [art] a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

queenm04 · Nov 18, 2005

MORNING GLORY (November 18, 2005) The Sovereignty Of God
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Todays study, teaching comes from Tebogo Rameetsa from Romans 9:15-16. Thank you Tebogo.

15 For He says to Moses,

âI will have mercy on whom I have mercy.

And I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.â

16 It does not, therefore, depend on manâs desire or effort, but on Godâs mercy.

An author named Olokunle Morolani writes: We all tend to have different experiences in life. While some have a smooth sail all through life, some struggle all the way. Some however, might live a life of struggle for a while, only for things to change abruptly for the better. Some other people tend to have things going well, only for events to nose dive and everything comes crashing down.

I think in all of lifeâs experiences, very few things have proven more preoccupying than the question of pain. Why is it that some people seem to be just born to suffer and go through life the hard way while others are just completely blissful in their existence? If there is a God who is in control of everything and loves us all the same, why is it that some people seem to be forever living in His grace and providence and some appear to be cursed?

Reading the passage by Morolani, he goes on to say that for some people, itâs pretty much what they have done in their past. Itâs a seed they have sown, that has now come to its season of bloom. On the other hand, how does that address the people that really in all honesty, have never done anything to deserve all the atrocities they suffer?

A scripture cames to mind, of Jesus walking with his disciples thru a city and they come across a blind man about whom the bible says he was born blind.

The disciples, obviously subscribing to the beliefs of that day and age, even of this day and age, ask the question, âWhy is this man blind? Is it because of his own sin or that of his ancestors?â

These are obviously doctrinal men, because they are obviously using as reference, the scripture that says, âThe sins of the father shall be visited upon the sons even to the third and fourth generation.â

They know the fundamentals of their faith. What they asked is not an ignorant question at all. Itâs one that would cause any self-respecting teacher of the Torah to stand back and think carefully about which answer heâs gonna give.

I still find it interesting how Jesus responds, âIt was neither because of his sin or that of his ancestors. He was born this way so that the glory of God would be revealed.â

HUH??? Jesus is saying that this man was born in pain just so God would be glorified???

Before you start assuming that God is unfair, go back to the passage in Romans chapter 9. Just a few verses earlier, Paul deals with exactly this question. He makes an example of a potter who sits and decides exactly how he wants his clay to turn out. A potter molds clay to come out how he wants it, and the clay cannot question why it is made into honorable vessels or into humble vessels. It just is!

Listen to what he says to the Pharaoh of Egypt a couple of verses before the passage at the top! âI created you for this moment! I hardened your heart so that through you my power would be revealed.â

God does not apologize once for the way He made you. He doesnât owe you any favors. He doesnât give excuses or ask you to give Him other chance to do better. Heâs made you the best that heâs gonna make you. He made you for a specific purpose. He made you for a specific moment. And that moment may not be clear to you in your humble beginnings or your humble ending, but itâs as real as His name is El Shaddai. When He chooses to bless you, he does that, just because He can! When He chooses to lift you up, He does that completely out of His grace!

After reading this passage, I asked myself, could anybody really be blamed for feeling resentful of God? Can anybody be justified for feeling victimized, unloved, and uncared for? Could the blind man hold a grudge for being born that way?

I went back a coupla verses again, and read a verse where Paul refers to a promise made to Abraham:

âWhen I return this time next year, You will have a son, and through him Will my people be established.â (I used my own paraphrasing here. Got no Bible close. Look it up.)

Then Paul goes into a lengthy discussion of how not everybody born of Abraham is Israel, but everybody born of Isaac is. Remember, Abraham had two sons. Ishmael and Isaac. Ishmael was born to Abraham and his slave woman, Hagar, but Isaac was born because of the promise of God. Only through him, could the covenant be established. Only through him, could Israel (Jacobâs other name) be born. Only through him, could the average person, who amounted to nothing in everybody elseâs eyes, the very person who was victimized, bruised, hated, cheated, mistreated be elevated and lifted up, and called âchild of the Most High God.â

How does it tie in with the first part? Easy!

I once heard (and I donât know how true this is, because I havenât had the time to do the research) that in the Jewish custom, in the modern day Passover celebration, the Priest wears a belt around his waist with three pouches tied to it. In each of these pouches, there is a piece of bread. These pieces of bread are named Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, in that particular order. At a particular point in the ceremony, the Priest then removes the middle one, Isaac, and breaks it.

One Rabbi was asked what this practice means. Why do you break the Isaac, and he responded, âI donât know. We just do!â

An author called Richard Booker says, âThe New is in the Old contained

The Old is in the New revealed.â

Letâs play a little substitution game, here: Abraham, The Father.

Isaac, The Son

Jacob, Israel.

To the theologians, the last substitution does not makes sense yet, but I hope it will in a moment.

Remember when Abraham and Isaac went up the mountain to make a sacrifice to God? Thatâs where Isaac can be seen as a type of Christ the best. But thatâs a whole new message for another time. By breaking Isaac, they are typifying the death of Christ on the cross and they donât even know it!

Abraham assumes the role of God, who is willing to give His only Sonâs life as a sacrifice.

Further mathematical substitution: Only through Christ could the covenant be established. Not everyone that was created by God is part of the covenant! Scary! But those who are born of The Son, can be called Israel (Jacob). Still doesnât make sense? Of course, it makes sense that Jacob would be a type of the Holy Spirit to complete the Tri-Un Godhead. But pay attention to this. The Bible says that were born-again by the water, the Spirit and the blood. And it says further that in order to be pleasing in Godâs eyes, we must reckon ourselves dead unto ourselves and alive in His Spirit. Jesus said, âI will send U a comforter, who will dwell inside of U.â

So if I am dead unto myself, and the Spirit lives through me, It is no longer I but God (The Spirit) who lives in me.

I was born to complete Godâs covenant. To house the Spirit of the Lord! So, if I was born to such important service, WHY WOULD I EVER DREAM OF QUESTIONING GODâS INTENTIONS FOR MY LIFE??? Will it convince Him otherwise? Will it force Him to change His mind?

I am not omniscient. I do not see all or know all. I donât even know whatâs gonna happen in the next second! Oops, there it goes! It didnât hurt that much, did it? All because itâs in His hand.

Why should I not be content to know that whether You created me honorable or humble, that You created me for Your glory to be revealed, and You will use me for Your will? I repent of all the times where I stood arrogantly before the potter and said, âWhy canât you make me with a handle for easy use?â Whether or not things are working in my favor, His command is for me to rejoice always. Whether or not I feel like it in the morning, my purpose is to serve Him as my King. Whether or not I feel like it on a Sunday (or any other day for that matter), my responsibility is to worship Him in spirit and in truth.

Quit trying to be in total control of your circumstances. There is one in the driverâs seat who knows exactly where the road is leading. Heâs traveled it so many times before. Remember when you used to just fall asleep in the back of your fatherâs car? You could do that because you knew he would take you exactly where you needed to go. Well, you have a new Father, now. One who will never let you down. One who never really promised a comfortable flight, because He is interested in your reaction to the storm. Do you trust Him enough to rest? But He did promise you a soft landing. He will never leave you nor forsake you. Humble or honorable.

verse 16: It does not depend on my effort, but completely on Your mercy, as You choose to give it.

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plum · Nov 18, 2005

what amazing insights! all of you!

visionary · Nov 19, 2005

Yeshua asked a very good question.... Did David have a vision in which he saw Yeshua? Did David know that Yeshua would one day be born out of his family tree?

Luke 20:44 David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?

How come the people knew that Yeshua was the son of David?

Matthew 15:22
And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.

Matthew 20:30
And, behold, two blind men sitting by the way side, when they heard that Jesus passed by, cried out, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou son of David.

Matthew 20:31
And the multitude rebuked them, because they should hold their peace: but they cried the more, saying, Have mercy on us, O Lord, thou son of David.

Matthew 21:9
And the multitudes that went before, and that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna to the son of David: Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord; Hosanna in the highest.

The verse that Yeshua used to create this theological complexity which the scribes and pharesee did not want to answer comes from...

Psalms 110:1 A psalm of David: ADONAI says to my Lord, "Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool."

It was something that the discriples remember well, for it is mentioned in several the gospels...

Matthew 22:45
If David then call him Lord, how is he his son?

Mark 12:37
David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son? And the common people heard him gladly.

Luke 1:32
He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

Luke 20:44
David therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?

J4Jesus · Nov 19, 2005

visionary said:
Talking about Abraham, He had three visitors, on of them was probably Yeshua.

I agree with you on this.

Athanasian Creed · Nov 28, 2005

visionary said:
(snip)

There is another time in the three years that he introduced Himself as "I am" and they knew and didn't like it... but I can't find it.

John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Ray :wave:

Athanasian Creed · Nov 28, 2005

Excellent question visionary!!! :clap:

Jesus is found throughout the Old Testament -

Genesis 18:1-2 And the LORD appeared unto him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, lo, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground,

Some believe that the the 3 "men" were the Persons of the Elohim however following the passage into chapter 19 you will discover that 2 of the "men" were angels.

Genesis 19:24 Then the LORD rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the LORD out of heaven;

Following the story of Lot and Sodom and Gomorrah we come across this very interesting verse where 2 Persons of the Elohim are mentioned, the LORD on earth (the pre-incarnate Christ) and the LORD in heaven (the Father)

Since Jesus said no one has seen God (the Father) at any time (John 1:18), Who is it that we see appearing in the theophanies - either in the form of a man as He did with Abraham, or as the Captain of the Lord's host, the Angel of the Lord, the fourth Man in the fiery furnace, Melchizedek, etc. Jesus declares that it is He Himself Who has "declared" or manifested God. He is the One Who conversed with Moses on Mt. Sinai and revealed His glory unto Him -

Exodus 34:5-8 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD. And the LORD passed by before him, and proclaimed, The LORD, The LORD God, merciful and gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth, Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation. And Moses made haste, and bowed his head toward the earth, and worshipped.

Ray :wave:

visionary · Nov 28, 2005

Athanasian Creed said:
John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

Ray

That is a good one... but guess what... I found it...the one I am thinking of was...

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. 59Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by.

visionary · Dec 5, 2005

Then when the angel of the Lord appeared to Moses in the flame of fire out of the bush, he said, I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God (Ex. 3:6).

Why is Yeshua an angel of the Lord here?

visionary · Dec 5, 2005

When the angel of the Lord appeared to Jacob in a dream, he said: I am the God of Bethel, where you anointed a pillar and made a vow to me (Gen. 31:13).

It is not the first time Yeshua has been discribed as an angle of the Lord.

visionary · Dec 5, 2005

Genesis 48:15 And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did walk, the God which fed me all my life long unto this day, 16 The Angel which redeemed me from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name be named on them, and the name of my fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them grow into a multitude in the midst of the earth.

THere it is again... The angel... is this just a bad translation or what?

Yusuphhai · Dec 7, 2005

Be all the Bible One Word(Logos,Christ)?

stone · Aug 2, 2006

this is close

*bump*

visionary · Aug 3, 2006

Numbers 23:19
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

Now add this verse to all that has been gathered....

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