Is it OK for Christians to Drink Alchohol?

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Sascha Fitzpatrick

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It is ok for me to drink - but I am careful where and when I drink. Usually either when I am at Brads (my FH) or out at dinner with him.

I have a lot of Salvation Army friends (I attend there), so out of courtesy to them, I have made the decision to not drink in their company.

A couple of my relatives have drinking problems (neither drink anymore), so I will not drink when in their company.

I keep it to one probably a month (at most), and always make sure I am in safe surroundings with someone I can trust. I find myself getting 'tired' after one, so I make sure I don't have to drive anywhere, and that I can fall asleep safely if needs be (my friends laugh that I get so tired after one).

Just be careful - don't be stupid with it, and be aware of who may be influenced by your drinking... :)

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Temperance is, unfortunately, one of those words that has changed its meaning. It now usually means teetotalism… [In the past,] temperance referred not specially to drink, but to all pleasures; and it meant not abstaining, but going the right length and no further. It is a mistake to think that Christians ought all to be teetotalers; Mohammedanism, not Christianity, is the teetotal religion.

Of course it may be the duty of a particular Christian, or of any Christian, at a particular time, to abstain from strong drink, either because he is the sort of man who cannot drink at all without drinking too much, or because he is with people who are inclined to drunkenness and must not encourage them by drinking himself. But the whole point is that he is abstaining, for a good reason, from something which he does not condemn and which he likes to see other people enjoying. One of the marks of a certain type of bad man is that he cannot give up a thing himself without wanting every one else to give it up. That is not the Christian way. An individual Christian may see fit to give up all sorts of things for special reasons—marriage, or meat, or beer, or the cinema; but the moment he starts saying the things are bad in themselves, or looking down his nose at other people who use them, he has taken the wrong turning.

—C.S. Lewis. Mere Christianity, p. 78-79



Genesis 14:18 Melchizedek offering wine to Abram
Nehemiah 2:1 refers to the king drinking wine (Nehemiah was required to taste it first to make sure it was not poisoned)
Esther 5:6; 7:1-2 speaks of wine that Esther (the godly Jewess) drank with the king
Job 1:13 refers to righteous Job’s family drinking wine
Daniel 10:3 drinking wine as a blessing after fasting
1 Tim 5:23 Paul tells Timothy to drink some wine for his stomach’s sake
Deut 14:26 implies that it is a good thing to drink wine and strong drink to the Lord
Psalm 4:7 compares joy in the Lord to the abundance of wine
Psalm 104:14-15 credits God as the creator of wine that “makes a man’s heart glad”
Prov 3:10 blessings of abundant stores of wine
Isa 25:6 The Lord prepares a banquet with “well-aged wines... and fine, well-aged wines” for his people
And Matthew 11:19 Implies that Jesus drank alcohol
 
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walkingfeet said:
At Passover Jews cannot eat yeast, wine is made with yeast!!!

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Exo 12:15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

errr that's leavened bread. The whole reason was because it took a lot of time to make bread with yeast and they were in a big rush. This has nothing at all to do with wine or any alcohol on hand... at all.
 
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holo said:
No, it's not. That was my beer.

big sigh...do I have to bring Bible verses into this again


Luke 3
10"What should we do then?" the crowd asked.
11John answered, "The man with two tunics should share with him who has none, and the one who has food should do the same."

I think we all understand where John was going with this. ;)
 
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OreGal said:
big sigh...do I have to bring Bible verses into this again


Luke 3
10"What should we do then?" the crowd asked.
11John answered, "The man with two tunics should share with him who has none, and the one who has food should do the same."

I think we all understand where John was going with this. ;)


^_^
 
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sara700 said:
I read that the wine back in Biblical days was much weaker than alchoholic beverages are today.

That's an urban myth.

Wine powerful enough to explode old wine skins, like Jesus talks about, is very powerful indeed.

Just ask anyone who knows how to make the stuff. The natural yeast on the grapes ferments the natural sugar in the grapes to about 13% alcohol.

This kills the rest of the yeast, thus ending the fermentation process.

Cheers.
 
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So are you saying that it is impossible to make a wine that less than 13% alchohol with the methods they used in those days?

Also please don't take offense to this question, but are you a Christian? I got advice from this lady once and later found out when I wished blessings over her and her family; that she didn't want my blessings b/c she worshipped the divine feminine, witchcraft and all that. I just want to make sure my sources for info. are other Christians from now on.
 
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I just talked about this in another thread.

Much of the confusion as to whether wine was fermented or unfermented stems from the word "wine" being used in translation of the Greek word "oinos", which can denote either grape juice or intoxicating wine.

Bible translators of the Bible knew that the word "oinos" could refer to either fermented or unfermented wine. In Ephesians 5:18, Paul commands us to "be not drunk with wine (oinos)."

In the Bible, there are 247 references to wine and strong drink. Of 247 references, 36 are negative references. There are 17 warnings against abusing alcohol, 19 examples of people abusing alcohol.

The 3 references to selecting leaders caution that those who abuse alcohol should not be selected as leaders. They use the phrases "not given to much wine," "not given to drunkenness," and "not given to wine."

On the positive side, there are 59 references to the commonly accepted practice of drinking wine (and strong drink) with meals, 27 references to the abundance of wine as an example of God's blessing, 20 references to the loss of wine and strong drink as an example of God's curse, 25 references to the use of wine in offerings and sacrifices, 9 references to wine being used as a gift, and 5 metaphorical references to wine as a basis for a favorable comparison.

The Bible has several warnings against drunkenness, but only one caution against the responsible use of alcohol in celebration and with meals.

I am not going to be legalist about this. I am not a drinker of alcohol but I do drink wine every now and then. During a hot day in the summer, I probably drink a can of COLD beer.

I should add that Christians should not "lose any sleep" over disagreements in drinking. This is an area what theologists called "Peripheral Beliefs". It means its not worth fighting or lose any sleep because of these beliefs and practices that are not really that important. These might include debates over modes of baptism, appropriate dress, ecclesiastical organization, the appropriateness of smoking and drinking, being a Democrat, Republican, or a Socialist, etc.

I should add anothing point.. that most Christians usually follow a reason rather a rule against drinking, smoking or any other unhealthy lifestyle:
The most important Scripture in this regard is 1Corinthians 6:19, "Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?" Your body is a "good" and wonderful gift from God. Christians know that God is with them, they sometimes feel it is unnecessary to make needed lifestyle changes to stay healthy.

Paul said, "But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection ..." (1Corinthians 9:27). The key word here is "discipline." Starting and maintaining a proper diet and exercise program involves more than anything else, discipline and caring enough for yourself (again, "...as you love yourself") to take care of yourself. You have to remember that exercise should not become an obsession. Paul wrote, "For bodily exercise profits a little, but godliness is profitable for all things, having promise of the life that now is and of that which is to come" (1Tim 4:8). So Paul recognizes that physical exercise has some profit, it is important. But there are also more important things in life; namely our relationship to God.
 
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jtbdad said:
Pints? It comes in Pints?

It is clear that Jesus drank wine, and served it. It is also clear that what was referred to in scripture as wine was indeed alcoholic. I have never heard of anyone getting drunk on grape juice. As another poster commented Jesus is the perfect example and He is without sin. Therefore it seems logical to me that drinking alcohol is OK.

A special note to sara700 yes that it correct, because of the chemistry involved, any true wine will be at least 13% alcohol. And I assure you I am a Christian.

Ok, now back to the beer & pizza.

Oh yeah - and football!!
 
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