Gifts of the Spirit

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messenjah

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Ok what do you guys think? If you are against it I would like to know why, cause I've heard the other side and I want to hear yours. If you are for it than how do you do it? I.e Speak in Tongues, prophecy, discernment. Please help. I learned that I don't really know that much about this topic and I would like to learn.
 

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>>If you are for it than how do you do it? I.e Speak in Tongues, prophecy, discernment.

Charismatics have a lot of teaching on the charisma's or the gifts of the Holy Spirit.

There are nine fruits, love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfullness, gentleness and self control. Also, there are nine gifts given for the purpose of ministry: adminstration, helps, giving, hospitality and so forth. It is actually the work of the Holy Spirit in us, but He uses us to minister to one another. For example, the Bible says that as we have been comforted by God, so we are able to comfort others. We can share the comfort God has given to us with others. In the same way, the healing power of God flows though us to others. We use to have a saying that God will give to us, what He can get through us to others.

I think they way it breaks down is that there are nine fruits, nine ministry gifts and nine adminstration gifts:

word of wisdom
word of knowledge
faith
gifts of healings
working of miracles
prophecy
discerning of spirits
tongues
interpretation of tongues

apostles
prophets;
evangelists;
pastors
teachers;
miracles
gifts of healings,
adminstration
diversities of tongues

Really, the most important is discernment. We have to know what is of God, what is of the enemy and what is a work of our flesh. Thanks, JohnR7
 
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Ok what do you guys think? If you are against it I would like to know why, cause I've heard the other side and I want to hear yours. If you are for it than how do you do it? I.e Speak in Tongues, prophecy, discernment. Please help. I learned that I don't really know that much about this topic and I would like to learn


We always have to know that the ‘gifts’ is a present, its for free, but the purpose is not to get our self exalted, but its there to help edify the Body of Christ. Never make the mistake to weigh up a person according to the gifts that he/she may have but only on the fruit of the spirit.
If you can see the gifts as a ‘tool’ to get the ‘job’ done you won’t fall into all kinds of miss understandings about the gifts.
The referring of the Christians to the term of the “body of Christ, is a parallel to show us how we have to work together. Just as a part of a body cannot function without being connected to the body, is the same why one Christian cannot function or grow without being connected to a church.
1 Corinthians 12:12 For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body:
Not every one in the body is the same. We all have a different ministry and different GIFTS to go with YOUR ministry. The gifts God gave us are for the purpose to EDIFY THE BODY OF CHRIST.

It’s just the same as with the human body. The eye has a gift to can see, so does the hand have the gift or ability to touch. The feet can bring you to places by walking. If you can look at the gifts as abilities you will understand how the gifts work. We don’t just have legs and no arms or only eyes and no mouth. God created our body to work in harmony, like the eyes can’t refuse to see where the foot has to go. Because of the difference we cannot exalt our self and think that we are better than our brother of sister. In God’s eye’s we are equal because we all have the same commandment to edify. Every body have to be renewed his/her mind to discover the will of God for our selves. What is good for your body, acceptable for your soul, and perfect for your spirit?

Romans 12:2 And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. 3 For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: 5So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 6 Having then gifts differing according to the grace that is given to us, whether prophecy, let us prophesy according to the proportion of faith; 7 Or ministry, let us wait on our ministering: or he that teacheth, on teaching; 8 Or he that exhorteth, on exhortation: he that giveth, let him do it with simplicity; he that ruleth, with diligence; he that sheweth mercy, with cheerfulness. 9 Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good. 10Be kindly affectioned one to another with brotherly love; in honour preferring one another; 11 Not slothful in business; fervent in spirit; serving the Lord; 12Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer; 13Distributing to the necessity of saints; given to hospitality. 14Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not. 15Rejoice with them that do rejoice, and weep with them that weep. 16Be of the same mind one toward another. Mind not high things, but condescend to men of low estate. Be not wise in your own conceits. 17Recompense to no man evil for evil. Provide things honest in the sight of all men. 18If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men. 19Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord. 20Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head. 21Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

Luke 24:19Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people
John 4:44 For Jesus himself testified, that a prophet hath no honour in his own country
 
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TruelightUK

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Originally posted by messenjah
If you are for it than how do you do it

Well, I'm certainly "for it"!

"How do you do it?" - Well, basically you don't unless God gives it to you! Strictly speaking, it would be more accurate to refer to tongues, prophecy etc. as 'manifestations' of the Holy Spirit - the more He is present and active within us, the more His 'gifts' will be active in and through us. Scripture tells us that Christ gives specific gifts to members of His Church as He determines, for our common good - we don't earn them, buy them or learn them, but receive them by faith. Often - but not exclusively - via the laying on of hands by those already baptised in the Spirit and operating in the Gifts. And it is worth remembering that the various operations of the Spirit are, essentially, gifts to the Church not to particular individuals - they are not our personal property, nor some sort of 'good conduct medal', but something He gives to the Church through us! But Paul also tells us to "earnestly desire" these gifts, "especially to prophecy", so it is perfectly okay to pray and ask God to bestow them upon you - but always with the primary motivation of being a more effective channel of His blessings to others. And, as Jesus said, if we ask for a fish he won't give us a scorpion - but He delights in giving His Spirit to those who ask.

I hope that helps answer your question.

Anthony
 
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