Origins of the Cosmos: Your Views

What's Your View on the Origin of the Universe?

  • Standard Big Bang Model, Inflation

  • M-Theory

  • Young Universe Creationism

  • Theistic Big Bang Model

  • Plasma Cosmology

  • Steady-State Theory

  • Inflationary Big Bang Model with Modification

  • Other (Explain)


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Lucretius

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What's your view on the origins of the universe? Because this is a science forum, I plan to discuss the scientific aspects of your ideas.

You might think this is just some sly way for me to sneak physics discussion into this forum and you'd be right, but nonetheless I hope the topic holds your interest and that we can get some fruitful discussion going on in here.

I'll start off my stating my position is that of the Inflationary Big Bang Model, with the changes made to it by String Theory (so that point-particles are no longer zero-dimensional points).
 

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I figured I should explain the options so:

1)Standard Big Bang Model, Inflation: The Standard Big Bang Model I am sure we are all familiar with. Inflation was a necessary addition to the theory to explain some cosmological problems, such as the horizon problem, and the reason for the uniform distribution of background radiation in our universe. The Inflationary Model states the universe underwent rapid expansion during it's earliest times (for a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a second). The model is Standard Big Bang from there.

M-Theory: M-Theory came about via the combination of five string theories. M-Theory's prediction on origins is that two p-branes collided in higher dimensional spacetime, resulting in the Big Bang (though not actually the Standard Big Bang Model as it is VERY theoretical still).

Young Universe Creationism: Young Earth Creationism, though with the universe this time. 6,000 years old or so for the universe (unless I'm wrong, if so correct me.

Theistic Big Bang Model: God caused the Big Bang.

Plasma Cosmology: A non-standard cosmological model that states plasma exerts itself on galaxies, accounting for their structure and therefore being vital to the origins of the universe. This theory is no longer held by the scientific community due to the presence of Cosmic Background Radiation, the uniformity of which Plasma Cosmology could not explain.

Steady-State Theory: Another non-standard Cosmological Model that was basically nullified by Edwin Hubble in the 1920's. The expanding of the universe cannot co-exist with this theory unless one arbitrarily places a cosmological constant into the equations describing the universe at large scales. Einstein tried this, but said it was the biggest mistake he ever made. Still, there are some who hold this theory as the cosmological model.

Inflationary Big Bang Model with Modification: A view I hold and I am sure others do. It's the first choice with some modification, in my case, I don't think the point-particles are rational and need to be replaced with 1d strings.

Other: Did Zeus vomit it up? If you have a different view, just state it!
 
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A4C said:
So you have deleted the YEC option and added the YUC instead .
I suppose that way you might think that there is more ammunition to oppose eh?
What about the "old earth" creationists -Are you not giving us a slightly biased option base here?

Did you miss the "Other" option?
 
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A4C said:
So you have deleted the YEC option and added the YUC instead .
I suppose that way you might think that there is more ammunition to oppose eh?
What about the "old earth" creationists -Are you not giving us a slightly biased option base here?

I never had a YEC option. Most YEC's ive met have also stated the Universe is approximately the same age. Of course, if you are a YEC who accepts the Big Bang Model, then just put the Big Bang Model (theistic) as your answer. If your choice is other than that, just put other (unless it is one of the seven choices)
 
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235U92 said:
You read a book and now know, for a fact, that "Goddidit". Brilliant.

You are aware that Jesus didn't write the Bible, right?
What I am aware of is that Jesus is the Word of God.
If you want to dispute that take it up in your prayers.
 
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Lucretius said:
I never had a YEC option. Most YEC's ive met have also stated the Universe is approximately the same age. Of course, if you are a YEC who accepts the Big Bang Model, then just put the Big Bang Model (theistic) as your answer. If your choice is other than that, just put other (unless it is one of the seven choices)
I have decided to decline your offer on the basis that it looks very much like this poll is rigged
 
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What I am aware of is that Jesus is the Word of God.
If you want to dispute that take it up in your prayers.

I stopped praying when I found out that praying to God and praying to a tree lend the same results. But that's for another discussion.

I'm interested in how Jesus is the word of God. Don't you mean the Bible? In which case you have no way to back that up because God is a supernatural being.
 
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235U92 said:
I stopped praying when I found out that praying to God and praying to a tree lend the same results. But that's for another discussion.

I'm interested in how Jesus is the word of God. Don't you mean the Bible? In which case you have no way to back that up because God is a supernatural being.
Check John chapter 1
If then Christ was from the beginning than He would have to know -wouldn't He?

Also I would start praying again only this time love your God with all your heart and all your strength and love your neighbour as yourself.
 
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