Nehemiah,
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In IC XC,
Marjorie
I know this is off-topic but wow... cool signature! I'd never seen that comic before.
In IC XC,
Marjorie
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Esran, I was not offended. No worries. I'm merely pointing out that you are making sweeping judgments against a group of people, the same as you are asking us to reconsider. All I'm doing is asking you to think about that. There will always be a person or two who make rude comments. That does not mean that we Orthodox, on the whole, "shun" the nonOrthodox. On the contrary, you will find the opposite in TAW- as I said, with an exception or two. Most of us welcome with open arms those who wish to learn about our holy Faith, but there will always be one or two bad apples. And I wish that weren't so, but I can't control anyone's behavior except my own. Nor can you.Esran said:[/color][/size][/font][/color][/size][/font]
I'm sorry to have caused you any offense......What I'm protesting is the way we treat "heterodox" ....We tend to shun them.
Please don't take this as hostile or judgemental, but yesterday was Shabbat, and a bar and a beer would be the last place and drink I would be doing/having on Shabbat and I pretty much think that is the norm for most MJ's that I know (personally anyway). But thanks for the offer, but as you said also there are one or two and those one or two speak loudly enough for us to not feel that the welcome wagon would be waiting for us if you know what I mean.Anonykat said:And hey, no one took me up for the Heineken!!
Please don't take this as hostile or judgemental, but yesterday was Shabbat, and a bar and a beer would be the last place and drink I would be doing/having on Shabbat and I pretty much think that is the norm for most MJ's that I know (personally anyway).
Just so any reading aren't aware of this, not every place closes down for Shabbat in Israel. You must have been in a Muslim or Christian area. If you went somewhere and it was a bar that served drinks and it was not gratis, then according to Orthodox ( our ) beliefs you broke the Shabbat and so did the propriator.
I really don't know where this idea came from that the Orthodox have a hit or something out for Messianics. I myself certainly don't, and I do not know even one person who does. There was a debate a while back, people on BOTH sides got nasty, and somehow it turned into this notion that we have a long standing thing about this. It just isn't true. There will always be people who act like posterior-heads, on BOTH sides. To me, all nonOrthodox fall into the same category - being outside the Holy Orthodox Church. Nothing more, nothing less, no hatred, no nothing.Talmid HaYarok said:Because of this, when I can not be a part of a Messianic congregation I often find myself much more comfortable and at peace with the Lord in an orthodox congregation. Would it be that more of them were comfortable with Messianic Jews!