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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    Reading these arguments about death before the fall of Adam gives me the urge to post, though I am adamant about supporting My creationist belief, it is my literal interpretation of the bible that tells me death did exist before sin. For starters… the creation explains this, the high protein...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    To the contrary; Paul would not have used rabbinical interpretation, Paul consistently displays his education to contradict rabbinical misconceptions of Torah. To find any 1st century rabbinical interpretation of the wave loaves seems impossible, lengthy searching only produces commentary from...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    I cant believe you said this? Mat 5:17 is core to understanding the source root of the information that has been authored and preserved by God as a multi-dimensional illustration of Gods work & plan in Christ. all of life is opinion and interpretation! .. ground rules?? finding the reason and...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    My connection to the first covenant resurrection saints of Mat 27:53, is to use basic eschotogical study practice, the verse below Mat 5:17-20, Christ, “the resurrection” came to fulfill the law, if what Christ said is true?...then he is fulfilling what is already recorded within the...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    is the rational truly that obscure to you..?? to understand the God intended meaning of the firstfruit, the meaning that Paul was expounding upon to the corinthians, that became of slight error in translation.. of which the order of the resurrection has been twisted into elaborate tales of...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    I see that a clear definement of identity to the firstfruits by God, does not stimulate your awareness ..?? or, your interest..?? the only knots that are in the scripture are for those that cant untie them, the interpretation errors are found by those who invest decades of study to find out why...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    Well, “simply indicating Christ as the first fruits” is my point. That inconspicuous little error should be scrutinized very closely, much valuable insight to the resurrection can be understood through the correct interpretation and understanding of the first fruits. First, I did not...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    yes, thats what I thought. I do believe there is both interpretation error and translation error in that verse. the word "become" being translated from the (textus receptis)"Ginomai" would be more accurately translated ..fulfilled.. performed..made..wrought. the firstfruits are clearly...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    can I barge in?....I was wondering if you mean this figuratively, or literally? I personally feel that there is a huge blunder of interpretation to make Christ, the firstfruits.
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    random_guy I am not trying to argue against you, I am a creationist, but I do see some validating issues, I completely agree that entropy will dominate any resistance given enough time, but, I also believe that God had to create entropy resistance within fragile components of his creation, or...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    I posted as just an example of a seed being an open system, that does not undergo decay when subject to an open source of energy, if that seed is tossed on the ground it will not rot away if there is an open source of usable energy...and that was my point, a seed can be dormant for years, yet...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    I personally would love to say hurray to this, yet there seems to be some pretty viable observations to the closed system theory. which would not apply to all biological life forms. a seed for example..tossed on the ground, does not decay do to entropy...unless, all the open support is cut off...
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    There must have been death in Paradise even before mans fall...

    this is a difficult theological concept since flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God. with God knowing the end from the beginning and placing Adam in the garden with one command, I think God never purposed that flesh and blood would live forever. "the earth shall wear out like a...
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    Pasteur and spontaneous generation

    well...I must say gluadys, you continue to amaze me with your preceptive post's. and your "virtually" un-arguable replys, only due to my inadaquecies to respond with equalative insight... are you the same gluadys from interfaith forums..?? KUDOS My only rebutal...
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    Pasteur and spontaneous generation

    thats amazing..I was just following up on glaudys, looking into theistic evo....and I just read that st augustine quote, I'm not kidding. but again ..we are talking about a Man that postulated the idea's that propagated most of the dissenting views of the 6 day creation, even before science had...
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