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Recent content by wayfaring

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    Stealing Jesus:How Fundamentalism Betrays Christianity

    Okay, Carico, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. I will wait for CHRIST ALONE to respond on this thread in the next 24 hours. I won't look to what anyone else says, I'll just wait for Jesus to post. Let's see what CHRIST ALONE does, shall we? Jesus, Carico says that I should look to You...
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    What is a liberal christian?

    I loved this observation. But, to add my two cents, not all conservatives would rush off to church. They love to debate truth so I suspect that some of them would stand around arguing. Some would conclude that God had predetermined for the man to be robbed and beaten to demonstrate His justice...
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    Stealing Jesus:How Fundamentalism Betrays Christianity

    Maybe. Maybe not. Sometimes folks are turned off, not because of Jesus, but because of OTHER's interpretations and representations of Jesus. I just purchased this book online and I'm waiting for it to arrive in my mail. But I did sit down in the bookstore and read the first chapter where Bawer...
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    Agnostic & Believer

    Yes, I am responsible. Thank Go...goodness. I don't need your prayers, Carico. If God is sovereign, your begging Him to send me to hell (so that my children don't also go there) won't change a thing. God does what He wants to do. That's what makes Him God. If I end up in hell, I end up in...
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    Our Heavenly Father

    Please go condemn someone else. I was a conservative, fundamentalist, bible-believing Christian for 32 years so your attempted guilt trips are a waste of both our time. If your god is the same as Larry's who proudly puffs up his chest because of his "justice" while tossing soul after soul into...
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    Agnostic & Believer

    Hey, Carico, these are JESUS' teachings, not MINE. If you have a problem with them, take it up with HIM, not me. If you have to explain what He said, then that simply means that you don't think He meant what He said. Or it means that He preferred to speak in riddles, in which case none of us...
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    Our Heavenly Father

    Hmm, I will die never knowing God's love BUT God's love is always there. Interesting concept. I just LOVE Christian thinking. wayfaring
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    Agnostic & Believer

    Carico, Don't worry, I'll make sure that they know EXACTLY what Jesus taught: 1. Cut off your hands and gouge out your eyes (Matt 5:29) 2. Don't resist evil people, let them have their way with you (Matt 5:39) 3. Let people control you (Matt 5:40) 4. Give anything you have to anyone who...
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    Agnostic & Believer

    Thanks for your well-thought out response. But better that I raise them to think than that the church raise them to believe that God is a sadist. wayfaring
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    Our Heavenly Father

    Hi Larry, I believe that one of the most important things that Jesus came to teach us is that God is our heavenly Father. More than anything else, I think the role of fatherhood is uniquely descriptive of how God relates to the race of humans that He has created. Therefore, in my responses...
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    Agnostic & Believer

    Hi Larry, I'll start a new thread in this forum called "Our Heavenly Father" and we can discuss some of these issues there, okay? For the sake of the discussion, I'll share my side from "within the camp" as opposed to being an agnostic. Your input is welcome. wayfaring
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    Agnostic & Believer

    Hi Larry, >The Christian belief is not that God made creation harmful to us, but that mankind made it harmful by sinning against God and incurring a curse on all of creation. That's what I inferred when I said that creation got out of God's control. >To say that God is to blame would be a...
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    Agnostic & Believer

    Hi Larry, >I think you are right in being honest with your family about what you believe and question. I think it is important that you let your wife have the spiritual authority in the house, but there is nothing wrong with you expressing your honest feelings. Well, I don't know if I would...
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    Agnostic & Believer

    Larry, I am an agnostic. I suspect and hope that He might be "out there" but I find no convincing evidence for a Creator. It is not my place, as husband or father to try to disprove God. If God is real, it is His place to prove Himself (which He seems to refuse to do). So at this point...
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    Agnostic & Believer

    Forerunner, can you tell me any more about the UCC? We have Church of Christ in my area but I've heard that they are very legalistic (confessing sins to one another, strict church attendance, no musical instruments, etc.). Is this the same UCC? Thanks. wayfaring